Vomit reaction to Digest Gold?

[Guest guest]

I started my son on enzymes 3 weeks ago. He was diagnosed with

eosinophilic esophagitis 2 1/2 years ago. Most recently, a follow-up

scope showed the eosinophils were back in his esophagus. Then we

went to the allergist and he tested positive (all 3's and 4's) to

everything we tested. He's notw tested positive to about 45 things

that we know of. The restricted diet is so hard on everyone. The

allergist didn't cut everything out though. He's still eating some

3's. He's also on Flovent steroids and Cimetidine.

At last August's scope, I had expected it to be clear since he shows

NO outward signs of allergies. I expected the allergy testing to

show no allergies. We got a major kick in the gut that day. The

doctors recommend medicines and restricted diets, the nutritionist

told us we shouldn't be eating anything and that he'll never

recover. My faith in doctors has kind of gone out the window.

just turned 5 last month. His increase in allergies sounds

like Leaky Gut. I was recommended enzymes by a friend. I got K.

DeFelice's book " Go with your gut " and have gone through the

website. We started out 3 weeks ago using a super slow method. V-

Gest, then added in Gluten Ease. Then I ran out and my order of

Digest Gold hadn't arrived yet. So I was giving him Kirkman Lab's

brand with DPPIV, no fruit enzymes. He was fine taking a full cap of

those 3 times a day before meals for a couple days.

When the Digest Gold arrived, I gave him a full cap for lunch. I

also gave him a full cap right before dinner. During dinner he

complained that his stomach hurt. Then shortly after dinner he

vomitted, a lot. He seemed fine after that. I was (and still am)

somewhat confused. The protease in the Digest Gold is only 80,000

HUT, whereas the Kirkman Labs is 120,000 HUT, so I don't know why he

would react to the DG and not the KL.

Any thoughts? I took him off all enzymes for a day (which he was

happy about b/c he hates taking them). This morning I gave him a 1/2

cap of the Kirkman Labs.

I took the Digest Gold as well and it also upset my stomach a bit

both days. So today I'm taking only a 1/2 cap of it to see if that

feels better.

Why would a product with less protease give us this reaction? I

would love to hear any thoughts, suggestions, etc. And of course, I

bought two huge bottles of the DG before trying them. Grrr...

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We are new to the enzymes as well. Our son is 2 1/2 and has EE. We have

been lucky that we caught it early and were able to eliminate most foods and

were able to scope clear. In our house, vomitting usually means there is a

reaction(foods, meds, etc) which flares the EE causing the vomiting. Since

starting I have noticed our son being more " refluxy " , but it doesn't seem to

bother him too much and it is getting better over time.

I totally agree with the " Faith in Doctors " statement. It hard to go with

the only way to treat this disease is to avoid most food or take steroids.

I am hoping there is something with these enzymes that helps the kids out.

Aqil

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM, <tracybgreene@...> wrote:

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> I started my son on enzymes 3 weeks ago. He was diagnosed with

> eosinophilic esophagitis 2 1/2 years ago. Most recently, a follow-up

> scope showed the eosinophils were back in his esophagus. Then we

> went to the allergist and he tested positive (all 3's and 4's) to

> everything we tested. He's notw tested positive to about 45 things

> that we know of. The restricted diet is so hard on everyone. The

> allergist didn't cut everything out though. He's still eating some

> 3's. He's also on Flovent steroids and Cimetidine.

>

> At last August's scope, I had expected it to be clear since he shows

> NO outward signs of allergies. I expected the allergy testing to

> show no allergies. We got a major kick in the gut that day. The

> doctors recommend medicines and restricted diets, the nutritionist

> told us we shouldn't be eating anything and that he'll never

> recover. My faith in doctors has kind of gone out the window.

>

> just turned 5 last month. His increase in allergies sounds

> like Leaky Gut. I was recommended enzymes by a friend. I got K.

> DeFelice's book " Go with your gut " and have gone through the

> website. We started out 3 weeks ago using a super slow method. V-

> Gest, then added in Gluten Ease. Then I ran out and my order of

> Digest Gold hadn't arrived yet. So I was giving him Kirkman Lab's

> brand with DPPIV, no fruit enzymes. He was fine taking a full cap of

> those 3 times a day before meals for a couple days.

>

> When the Digest Gold arrived, I gave him a full cap for lunch. I

> also gave him a full cap right before dinner. During dinner he

> complained that his stomach hurt. Then shortly after dinner he

> vomitted, a lot. He seemed fine after that. I was (and still am)

> somewhat confused. The protease in the Digest Gold is only 80,000

> HUT, whereas the Kirkman Labs is 120,000 HUT, so I don't know why he

> would react to the DG and not the KL.

>

> Any thoughts? I took him off all enzymes for a day (which he was

> happy about b/c he hates taking them). This morning I gave him a 1/2

> cap of the Kirkman Labs.

>

> I took the Digest Gold as well and it also upset my stomach a bit

> both days. So today I'm taking only a 1/2 cap of it to see if that

> feels better.

>

> Why would a product with less protease give us this reaction? I

> would love to hear any thoughts, suggestions, etc. And of course, I

> bought two huge bottles of the DG before trying them. Grrr...

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm just curious I'm trying to figure this out.. which product exactly from

Kirkman's are you giving him? Maximum Spectrum Enzym-Complete/DPP-IV™ Fruit Free

w/Isogest® ? This matters just because of the serving sizes, for instance, if it

is this maximum Spectrum Enzym... the serving size is 2 capsules, but you

mentioned you only gave him 1. So maybe you thought you were giving him more

protease than you realized? 1 capsule could've been only 60K protease, depending

on which product is was exactly.. If this is the case, the protease in Digest

Gold would've been higher since you gave him 1 capsule of DG and the serving

size is actually 1 capsule. In this case as well I'd recommend starting him off

with a low dosage of the DG (for instance like you were doing with Kirkmans) so

he's not overwhelmed by all of the protease. Like you mentioned, even trying

half a capsule or less in the beginning would be a good idea too. Since you have

read K. DeFelice's book I'm sure you know all about " die-off " and how too much

protease at once could cause this reaction. Starting with a low dosage like you

did with Vgest and GlutenEase should help tremendously.

Hope this helps you guys out It's always awful seeing our little kids sick to

their stomach, that's the worst!

Talyna

Enzymedica Education Dept.

www.enzymedica.com

www.AGRT.org

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> >

> >

> > I started my son on enzymes 3 weeks ago. He was diagnosed with

> > eosinophilic esophagitis 2 1/2 years ago. Most recently, a follow-up

> > scope showed the eosinophils were back in his esophagus. Then we

> > went to the allergist and he tested positive (all 3's and 4's) to

> > everything we tested. He's notw tested positive to about 45 things

> > that we know of. The restricted diet is so hard on everyone. The

> > allergist didn't cut everything out though. He's still eating some

> > 3's. He's also on Flovent steroids and Cimetidine.

> >

> > At last August's scope, I had expected it to be clear since he shows

> > NO outward signs of allergies. I expected the allergy testing to

> > show no allergies. We got a major kick in the gut that day. The

> > doctors recommend medicines and restricted diets, the nutritionist

> > told us we shouldn't be eating anything and that he'll never

> > recover. My faith in doctors has kind of gone out the window.

> >

> > just turned 5 last month. His increase in allergies sounds

> > like Leaky Gut. I was recommended enzymes by a friend. I got K.

> > DeFelice's book " Go with your gut " and have gone through the

> > website. We started out 3 weeks ago using a super slow method. V-

> > Gest, then added in Gluten Ease. Then I ran out and my order of

> > Digest Gold hadn't arrived yet. So I was giving him Kirkman Lab's

> > brand with DPPIV, no fruit enzymes. He was fine taking a full cap of

> > those 3 times a day before meals for a couple days.

> >

> > When the Digest Gold arrived, I gave him a full cap for lunch. I

> > also gave him a full cap right before dinner. During dinner he

> > complained that his stomach hurt. Then shortly after dinner he

> > vomitted, a lot. He seemed fine after that. I was (and still am)

> > somewhat confused. The protease in the Digest Gold is only 80,000

> > HUT, whereas the Kirkman Labs is 120,000 HUT, so I don't know why he

> > would react to the DG and not the KL.

> >

> > Any thoughts? I took him off all enzymes for a day (which he was

> > happy about b/c he hates taking them). This morning I gave him a 1/2

> > cap of the Kirkman Labs.

> >

> > I took the Digest Gold as well and it also upset my stomach a bit

> > both days. So today I'm taking only a 1/2 cap of it to see if that

> > feels better.

> >

> > Why would a product with less protease give us this reaction? I

> > would love to hear any thoughts, suggestions, etc. And of course, I

> > bought two huge bottles of the DG before trying them. Grrr...

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

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