RE: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

[Guest guest]

Try using Himalayan Pink Salt instead of regular salt. This definately helped us

with my son's biting his nails and putting his hands and fingers in his mouth.

It is a mineral deficiency and this helps!

From: yvonneweaver@...

Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:08:50 +0000

Subject: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to

be more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or

minerals. PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like making a

expensive phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question alone.

_________________________________________________________________

Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free.

http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

[Guest guest]

I think it's sensory/stim related.

 

________________________________

From: Rotondi <stephanie.rotondi@...>

Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 11:50:56 AM

Subject: RE: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Try using Himalayan Pink Salt instead of regular salt. This definately helped us

with my son's biting his nails and putting his hands and fingers in his mouth.

It is a mineral deficiency and this helps!

From: yvonneweaver@...

Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:08:50 +0000

Subject: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

 

   

     

     

      Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to

be more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or

minerals. PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like making a

expensive phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question alone.

   

   

   

   

                         

_________________________________________________________________

Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free.

http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

[Guest guest]

For us this is yeast kicked up by viruses -- it's been tough this winter. It is

also mineral deficiency for us especially zinc.

Increase probiotics or add a new one to your routine at different times of day,

rotate any antifungal treatments your doing or add something like caprylic or

garlic to give it a boost and consider adding zinc or a multimineral such as the

salt mentioned by another post. We're giving more probiotics mid-day after

school.

>

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to be

more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or minerals.

PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like making a expensive

phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question alone.

>

[Guest guest]

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately.

Generally caused by yeast overgrowth or zinc deficiency.

>>It has to be more than sensory input.

At my house, most sensory issues were caused by yeast overgrowth.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I am right there with you on a kid that likes to mouth things.

Try  gum like hubba bubba . Gum is not great but compared to say eatting

plants,or plastic items etc. Also it cuts down on some of the nervous stimming

and looks normal. According to my daughters teacher ,my daughter actually

focuses better and talks more when she has  gum. Give something hard to chew to

really get stress relief --not stick gum which is easy to bite down on. Hubba

Bubba or the old fashioned original bubble gum . Maybe even let it be stale

(good and hard).

I like gum a lot better than these chewy toys the OT likes to give out (looks

more normal )

The cause of putting stuff in mouth according to my neurologist and

gastroentologist is stomach pain or icky sulfer taste up from throat / nausea

feeling.

I myself ate my way through four nausea pregnancies. Really consider stomach

issues! Does your kid get Beer belly or the starving baby look (bloated belly

skinny everywhere else) ?  

From: erinsullivan65 <erinsullivan65@...>

Subject: Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 4:46 AM

 

For us this is yeast kicked up by viruses -- it's been tough this winter.

It is also mineral deficiency for us especially zinc.

Increase probiotics or add a new one to your routine at different times of day,

rotate any antifungal treatments your doing or add something like caprylic or

garlic to give it a boost and consider adding zinc or a multimineral such as the

salt mentioned by another post. We're giving more probiotics mid-day after

school.

>

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to be

more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or minerals.

PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like making a expensive

phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question alone.

>

[Guest guest]

I have asked about this many times, WE call my daughter watermelon belly,

she has these little skinny legs and big bloated belly. She is on GF/CF/EF,

takes houston enzymes TRIENZA, and multiple yeast killers. But still no

matter what she eats, she has this huge bloated belly. She does not put

all the stuff in her mouth as you mention, but she definately has gut

issues, and just cannot seem to get rid of the bloated belly look. She

takes gymnastics and they keep telling her not to stick out her belly, and

it is a balancing issue with hand stands and on the bars since it gives her

a sway back, which I totally understand. But she Can't " suck " it in as

they state. Any suggestions what else to do. I don't understand the whole

Mito cocktail I keep reading about. What is that for? and how do you get

it in a kid that won't swallow capsules...

JEn mom to 6 yr old, PDD, ketotic hypoglycemia,

Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 4:46 AM

For us this is yeast kicked up by viruses -- it's been tough this

winter. It is also mineral deficiency for us especially zinc.

Increase probiotics or add a new one to your routine at different times of

day, rotate any antifungal treatments your doing or add something like

caprylic or garlic to give it a boost and consider adding zinc or a

multimineral such as the salt mentioned by another post. We're giving more

probiotics mid-day after school.

>

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to

> be more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or

> minerals. PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like

> making a expensive phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question

> alone.

>

[Guest guest]

i said JUST monday! since u are out of town lauren can overlap with Janiffer on

monday @ home. janiffer can work with sina directly since lauren can overlap

her for extra support. U know how  sina is closed to . today was good as

far as no tantrum as usual with lauren.

From: erinsullivan65 <erinsullivan65>

Subject: Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 4:46 AM

For us this is yeast kicked up by viruses -- it's been tough this

winter. It is also mineral deficiency for us especially zinc.

Increase probiotics or add a new one to your routine at different times of

day, rotate any antifungal treatments your doing or add something like

caprylic or garlic to give it a boost and consider adding zinc or a

multimineral such as the salt mentioned by another post. We're giving more

probiotics mid-day after school.

>

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to

> be more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or

> minerals. PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like

> making a expensive phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question

> alone.

>

[Guest guest]

> I have asked about this many times, WE call my daughter watermelon belly,

> she has these little skinny legs and big bloated belly. She is on GF/CF/EF,

> takes houston enzymes TRIENZA, and multiple yeast killers. But still no

> matter what she eats, she has this huge bloated belly.

At my house, this meant yeast usually, altho a few times it meant intolerance

[usually supplements, sometimes foods].

>>I don't understand the whole

> Mito cocktail I keep reading about. What is that for?

My son had mitochondrial dysfunction

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>>and how do you get

> it in a kid that won't swallow capsules...

Before my kids swallowed capsules, I mixed things into peanut butter and honey.

I taught them how to swallow capsules

http://www.danasview.net/capsules.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

DeFelice, in her book, suggests sometimes a different brand of

enzymes might work better. For me, I became sensitized to Houston lab enzymes

but don't do so to Enzymedica -- finding GlutenEase and Digest Gold without

probiotics work (but there are definite adjustment reactions due to

yeast/bacterial die off, so slow increase was best).

Joyce

[Guest guest]

she was on Digest gold before the TRienza, and she was so hyper on that ,

and once we took her off that and put her on the Trienza, big change in

hyperactivity, but big belly still remains.

Jen

Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

> DeFelice, in her book, suggests sometimes a different brand of

> enzymes might work better. For me, I became sensitized to Houston lab

> enzymes

> but don't do so to Enzymedica -- finding GlutenEase and Digest Gold

> without

> probiotics work (but there are definite adjustment reactions due to

> yeast/bacterial die off, so slow increase was best).

>

> Joyce

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

also, how are you getting the yeast die off with Digest gold and glutenese?

that's a new one I never heard before.

Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

> DeFelice, in her book, suggests sometimes a different brand of

> enzymes might work better. For me, I became sensitized to Houston lab

> enzymes

> but don't do so to Enzymedica -- finding GlutenEase and Digest Gold

> without

> probiotics work (but there are definite adjustment reactions due to

> yeast/bacterial die off, so slow increase was best).

>

> Joyce

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I began glutenease, I became sensitive to yeast and foods that cross

react with yeast on the day after increasing the dosage (I test things

sublingually -under the tongue -- and if I'm sensitive my pulse increases a

lot). This increased sensitivity has always happened to me when anything

kills yeast. And then I read that proteases (which glutenease has a lot of) can

kill yeast and bacteria.

_http://www.enzymestuff.com/rtdieoff.htm_

(http://www.enzymestuff.com/rtdieoff.htm)

I had to increase the enzymes quite slowly, especially at first, and put

up with the die off reactions.

I also read that a study recently found that a sequence of amino acids on

the surface of Candida are identical to a sequence in gluten. So, if

glutenease breaks down gluten it also may target the yeast. So, this fit

together with what I had observed and what it says at the above link.

I wonder if the hyperness experienced on Digest Gold was due to a die off

(it also has a lot of proteases)?

I also wonder if it was Digest Gold with probiotics? I am sensitive to

all probiotics (or at least I was before I got to the full dosage of

GlutenEase.

Joyce

[Guest guest]

What? I have no idea what you are talking about...

Re: Dana, anyone? Everything goes in the mouth.

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 4:46 AM

For us this is yeast kicked up by viruses -- it's been tough this

winter. It is also mineral deficiency for us especially zinc.

Increase probiotics or add a new one to your routine at different times of

day, rotate any antifungal treatments your doing or add something like

caprylic or garlic to give it a boost and consider adding zinc or a

multimineral such as the salt mentioned by another post. We're giving more

probiotics mid-day after school.

>

> Ahhh, my son just started to put everything in his mouth lately. It has to

> be more than sensory input. I don't know if it is a lack of vitamins or

> minerals. PICA came to mind, too! Any suggestions? I don't feel like

> making a expensive phone call in to the DAN doctor just for this question

> alone.

>