Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Has anyone seen any adverse effects from giving P5P? We're supposed to introduce P5P, then magnesium glycinate, then B6. But on giving the P5P, we've noticed increased spaciness, crankiness, and vocal stims. So, not sure if we should proceed to introduce the other supps and hope they balance each other out; or stop the P5P. Would appreciate any comments, Daisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Somewhere I read one of the experts said if you have a phenol/sulfur sensitive child, give only 25 mg P5P. > > Has anyone seen any adverse effects from giving P5P? We're supposed to introduce P5P, then magnesium glycinate, then B6. But on giving the P5P, we've noticed increased spaciness, crankiness, and vocal stims. So, not sure if we should proceed to introduce the other supps and hope they balance each other out; or stop the P5P. Would appreciate any comments, > > Daisy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 > > Has anyone seen any adverse effects from giving P5P? We're supposed to introduce P5P, then magnesium glycinate, then B6. But on giving the P5P, we've noticed increased spaciness, crankiness, and vocal stims. So, not sure if we should proceed to introduce the other supps and hope they balance each other out; or stop the P5P. Would appreciate any comments, Some kids don't tolerate P5P and need B6. Some kids don't tolerate either. Both P5P and B6 can cause problems if the child has phenol issues, and both of them tend to cause a lot of yeast overgrowth. The symptoms you wrote above, do sound like a yeast issue, so try increasing the yeast protocol and see if that helps. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 You don't say how much you're giving, but I did read a report from someone that if the child has phenol/sulfur problems, you should not give more than 25 mg/day. > > Has anyone seen any adverse effects from giving P5P? We're supposed to introduce P5P, then magnesium glycinate, then B6. But on giving the P5P, we've noticed increased spaciness, crankiness, and vocal stims. So, not sure if we should proceed to introduce the other supps and hope they balance each other out; or stop the P5P. Would appreciate any comments, > > Daisy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 P5P is kind of the " rocket fuel " form of vitamin B6, it's the active form, so it is equivalent to giving 3-5 times as much of the other form, pyridoxine, and some kids kind of bounce off the walls when starting it. It's very useful, though, so don't give up. I do not think that the below guideline is useful (i.e. 25 mg/day if phenol/sulfur problems). From what I've seen, most kids can benefit from it, but some need to start at very low doses. What you are seeing is what people often see when kids take more p5p than they can use. Here's what I would suggest: 1. Stop the p5p 2. Introduce the magnesium, which can help to counteract the excitatory effects of the p5p 3. Start p5p again, at 1/4 dose, then increase gradually, giving the body a chance to get used to it over a week or two. You can add a little B6 too, and play with doses to find out what works. p5p and B6 are two different forms of the same vitamin. Hope this is helpful. Terri btw, in case you're wondering, I have a 16yo son with autism who has taken p5p since age 3, and I work for BrainChild Nutritionals, so that's how I learned a lot about vitamins. > > > > Has anyone seen any adverse effects from giving P5P? We're supposed to introduce P5P, then magnesium glycinate, then B6. But on giving the P5P, we've noticed increased spaciness, crankiness, and vocal stims. So, not sure if we should proceed to introduce the other supps and hope they balance each other out; or stop the P5P. Would appreciate any comments, > > > > Daisy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Because of peoples polluted livers they do not convert their nutrients to the proper enzymatic end products. P5P helps to produce all neurotransmitters including dopamine. The average dosage is 50 mgs BID increasing it to 100 mgs BID which usually invokeds vivid dreams > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone here have any experience with p5p? > > Seems that I have very low dopamine levels ..hence my muscle twitching.. I > > probably have low magnesium and potasium as well.. > > > > suggested I get p5p and after reading about it, MANY people that are using > > it have felt much better afterwords as it helps produce a bunch of stuff in the > > brain, the key for me being dopamine. > > > > I am also on wellbutrin in hopes of it releasing dopamine in my brain..and got a > > urine test done per seans instruction.. > > > > thanks for any feedback! > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yes, I take P5P and feel a lot better with it. Better mood and mental health. I can't handle pyridoxine and get really sick on it. What type of muscle twitching are you having? Is it only on one side of the body? How did you come to suspect low dopamine? Just curious to hear your experience. -Nigel On 21 February 2011 19:29, phil nicolaou <ifpacpt@...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Does anyone here have any experience with p5p? > Seems that I have very low dopamine levels ..hence my muscle twitching.. I > probably have low magnesium and potasium as well.. > > suggested I get p5p and after reading about it, MANY people that are > using > it have felt much better afterwords as it helps produce a bunch of stuff in > the > brain, the key for me being dopamine. > > I am also on wellbutrin in hopes of it releasing dopamine in my brain..and > got a > urine test done per seans instruction.. > > thanks for any feedback! > > Phil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Nigel I take my P5P on an empty stomach I find it works much better. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone here have any experience with p5p? > > Seems that I have very low dopamine levels ..hence my > muscle twitching.. I > > probably have low magnesium and potasium as well.. > > > > suggested I get p5p and after reading about it, > MANY people that are > > using > > it have felt much better afterwords as it helps > produce a bunch of stuff in > > the > > brain, the key for me being dopamine. > > > > I am also on wellbutrin in hopes of it releasing > dopamine in my brain..and > > got a > > urine test done per seans instruction.. > > > > thanks for any feedback! > > > > Phil > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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