Re: severe herxheimers die off

[Guest guest]

> Once again I am reporting severe die off reaction to grapefruit seed

> extract. I took several large doses - 30-40 + drops daily for 3 days and now

> have pneumonia.

Do you know whether it is viral pneumonia, bacterial pneumonia, or fungal

pneumonia?

I ask because I get severe lung issues, that present as asthma and sometimes

pneumonia, and it is because of yeast in the lungs. I use biotin and GSE to

eliminate the problem. But, the yeast sometimes migrates to other areas of my

body before it leaves. This might be what you are experiencing. The yeast is

migrating into your lungs before it leaves.

When I get severe lung issues, I take 4 GSE tablets [the equivalent of 50 drops]

and 20mg biotin every hour until the main problem passes.

>>I formally stopped having asthma after I worked on yeast and

> bacteria in my body. Apparently its back.

My asthma was caused by yeast in my lungs. So long as my yeast is under

control, I have no asthma symptoms.

> Do you think its in my GI tract or in some other tissue area?

Based on my personal experience, this sounds like you have a lot of yeast

somewhere in your body, and when you take GSE it migrates into your lungs as it

is dying off.

>>My personal

> physician recommends using Alpha Lipoic acid to mop up the free radicals

> that are released from die off.

I would use activated charcoal to absorb the die off. I used ALA as a chelator,

which increased yeast for the first 50 rounds.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Research the PCP fungal lung infection, pretty sure. My mother-in-law passed

away at age 70 from it. A type of pneumonia people with auto immune issues.

Yeast pretty much takes over. From memory, reading, a lot of people with cancer

or aids, common type of pneumonia they die from. She just finished a year

battle of leukemia, mild case. This was actually a surprise, honestly.

But they had to do a biopsy to see what " kind " of pneumonia it was to treat it.

She got too sick and then different antibiotics just weren't working, hence the

biopsy.

Hope this doesn't scare you. Just something to thing, read up. It could very

well be yeast.

I hope you are feeling better. Take care.

Tammy

Re: severe herxheimers die off

> Once again I am reporting severe die off reaction to grapefruit seed

> extract. I took several large doses - 30-40 + drops daily for 3 days and now

> have pneumonia.

Do you know whether it is viral pneumonia, bacterial pneumonia, or fungal

pneumonia?

I ask because I get severe lung issues, that present as asthma and sometimes

pneumonia, and it is because of yeast in the lungs. I use biotin and GSE to

eliminate the problem. But, the yeast sometimes migrates to other areas of my

body before it leaves. This might be what you are experiencing. The yeast is

migrating into your lungs before it leaves.

When I get severe lung issues, I take 4 GSE tablets [the equivalent of 50

drops] and 20mg biotin every hour until the main problem passes.

>>I formally stopped having asthma after I worked on yeast and

> bacteria in my body. Apparently its back.

My asthma was caused by yeast in my lungs. So long as my yeast is under

control, I have no asthma symptoms.

> Do you think its in my GI tract or in some other tissue area?

Based on my personal experience, this sounds like you have a lot of yeast

somewhere in your body, and when you take GSE it migrates into your lungs as it

is dying off.

>>My personal

> physician recommends using Alpha Lipoic acid to mop up the free radicals

> that are released from die off.

I would use activated charcoal to absorb the die off. I used ALA as a

chelator, which increased yeast for the first 50 rounds.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>>I just saw my primary physician the day before the pneumonia

> set in and she gave me a 2 month supply of Diflucan to try to kill off yeast

> through out my body. we had agreed I have a systemic infection.

Do you take biotin? That was required for long-term control for me. [Along

with chelation and anti-virals.]

>>Does

> anybody know about taking GSE along with that? I have not experienced die

> off from Diflucan whereas I get it every time from GSE - which is almost

> comical. I wonder if GSE is more potent against certain kinds of fungi?

I had a female yeast issue once. Doctor gave me Diflucan which did nothing. I

took GSE and the problem was resolved within 2 days.

> The whole thing started because I believe I might be able to attribute my

> tinnitus to yeast and bacterial metabolites.

Tinnitus was yeast for me.

> One last question about the Activated Charcoal - I haven't used it before

> and I thought you took it like 4 hrs apart from the GSE or drug - is that

> right?

45 minutes after GSE or other anti-fungal, 2 hours or more apart from everything

else.

>>Also are you using probiotics during this time to replace GI flora

> or waiting till after the treatment period is over?

I used biotin instead of probiotics. We never really tolerated probiotics here,

but biotin has been wonderful.

Dana