sometimes

[Guest guest]

WOW, such inspiration for a first email this morning lol.

I definitely will be in Durham for the support meeting. Again, I have two very

nice dresses, one is an 8 and the other is a black sequence dress that I think

is a 10. Both would make very nice Christmas gowns. Anyone interested?

aW

MGB 5/28/00

214/115ish lbs

RE: Sometimes

Sometimes

Sometimes ... when you cry ...

no one sees your tears ...

Sometimes ... when you are happy ...

no one sees your smile ...

But fart, just one time...

Anonymous

[Guest guest]

Sometimes

Sometimes ... when you cry ...

no one sees your tears ...

Sometimes ... when you are happy ...

no one sees your smile ...

But fart, just one time...

Anonymous

[Guest guest]

Boy, isn't that the truth!!

LOL so very hard you can probably feel the ground shaking all the way from

Indiana.

Trude

RE: Sometimes

Sometimes

Sometimes ... when you cry ...

no one sees your tears ...

Sometimes ... when you are happy ...

no one sees your smile ...

But fart, just one time...

Anonymous

[Guest guest]

Hang in there " Bentfeet " - Things will get better. Be sure to tell your doctors

if you continually feel really down. There are antidepressants that work

wonders. But if you are like me, that was just a really bad day and things are

looking better. I hope that's the case.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

,

Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear

, Happy Birthday to you!!!!

Cam

p.s...it is so much easier to carry a tune on-line!!

[Guest guest]

Oh Happy Birthday!!

I am so glad you had a nice time out and about! You certainly deserve

it! Again...Happy Birthday

Hugs,

>

> Hi all,

> Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday today

and

> it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a

> little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to lounge

> out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it was a

> lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the end of

> the tunnel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aawww. Cam thanks, nobody ever sang to me via email before.

i feel so special

>

> ,

>

> Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear

> , Happy Birthday to you!!!!

>

> Cam

>

> p.s...it is so much easier to carry a tune on-line!!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I like the so much better than the days.

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday

today

> and

> > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing

a

> > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

lounge

> > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it

was a

> > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the

end of

> > the tunnel.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

VALERIE, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!! HAVE A GREAT DAY...PAINFREE....VONNIE <mrstrem@...> wrote: Oh Happy Birthday!!I am so glad you had a nice time out and about! You certainly deserve it! Again...Happy BirthdayHugs,>> Hi all,> Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday today and > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to lounge > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it was a > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the end of > the tunnel.> >scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Messenger with Voice.

[Guest guest]

Why valerie you don't look a day over 20 from here.

Happy Birthday!

Jolynn

>

> Hi all,

> Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday today

and

> it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a

> little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

lounge

> out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it was

a

> lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the end

of

> the tunnel.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jolynn,

Considering I just finished coloring my hair..I'll take that

I no see you,,compliment..

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday

today

> and

> > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing

a

> > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

> lounge

> > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it

was

> a

> > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the

end

> of

> > the tunnel.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

all-

thanks for all the birthday warm wishes. It certainly was

a good day.

[Guest guest]

Hey, happy birthday, Val!

Sharon

[ ] Sometimes

> Hi all,

> Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday today and

> it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a

> little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to lounge

> out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it was a

> lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the end of

> the tunnel.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

>

[Guest guest]

I just colored mine too. This flatback really brings the greys out.

I am 31 (and a half) and feel 90.

Jolynn

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday

> today

> > and

> > > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and

doing

> a

> > > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

> > lounge

> > > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it

> was

> > a

> > > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the

> end

> > of

> > > the tunnel.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

Thanks another year old and a deeper in debt, well at

least I am straighter than I have been in 30 years.

>

> Hey, happy birthday, Val!

>

> Sharon

>

> [ ] Sometimes

>

>

> > Hi all,

> > Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday

today and

> > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a

> > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

lounge

> > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it

was a

> > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the

end of

> > the tunnel.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

> >

[Guest guest]

And straighter is good!

Sharon

[ ] Sometimes

>>

>>

>> > Hi all,

>> > Sometimes things are just right. We went out for my birthday

> today and

>> > it was just like old times, shopping and having lunch and doing a

>> > little visiting. I did get tired and took the opportunity to

> lounge

>> > out in the passanger seat and take a snooze but all in all it

> was a

>> > lot of fun and almost normal. The experience gave light at the

> end of

>> > the tunnel.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

>> >

[Guest guest]

Happy Birthday, Miss ! Mine was two weeks after my last surgery

and it was nice to " do " something even if it made me very tired. Glad

you had a nice day! ~kam

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kam, nicest bday in a long time-valerie

>

> Happy Birthday, Miss ! Mine was two weeks after my last

surgery

> and it was nice to " do " something even if it made me very tired.

Glad

> you had a nice day! ~kam

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kam, nicest bday in a long time-valerie

>

> Happy Birthday, Miss ! Mine was two weeks after my last

surgery

> and it was nice to " do " something even if it made me very tired.

Glad

> you had a nice day! ~kam

>

[Guest guest]

Hoo, yeah, new bod for your b'day!

[ ] Re: Sometimes

> Thanks Kam, nicest bday in a long time-valerie

>

>

>>

>> Happy Birthday, Miss ! Mine was two weeks after my last

> surgery

>> and it was nice to " do " something even if it made me very tired.

> Glad

>> you had a nice day! ~kam

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

>

[Guest guest]

Yah, right I didn't think of that. valerie

> >>

> >> Happy Birthday, Miss ! Mine was two weeks after my last

> > surgery

> >> and it was nice to " do " something even if it made me very

tired.

> > Glad

> >> you had a nice day! ~kam

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Yesterday he dropped something on my foot and when I said, " OW! That

> hurt! " he actually got down and kissed my foot. Any other time, he

> wouldn't have cared if he hurt someone. Yesterday he also brought

> something to me to share, rather than to fix or get help

> for....something the psych said kids with autism won't do.

>

> My ASD son shares things with me all the time. I think autistic kids

not being interested in sharing something with another person is an

outdated belief.

[Guest guest]

I read your previous email and accidently deleted it instead of reply. I have

twin girls who will be 3 in March also. Both of them have been diagnosed as

PDD-NOS. One is more severe and may be classififed as autistic. She is basically

nonverbal but recently is trying to say a few words although they do not sound

much like the word. Sometimes she will give me a kiss on her own but mostly when

she wants something. The other twin is talking but mostly repeating words you

say but will occasionally tell you what she wants. Both have DT and speech. OT

for awhile until the therapist quit. I have had them on a GF diet and saw some

improvements. I took them off around the holidays to see if I saw a change--no

change. They have become extremely fuzzy eaters. I struggle to hide GFE, lysine,

biotin and threelac in their food. We just started taking enzymes. I am reading

's book and it makes sense so far. One will take the chewables and the

other will take it in chocolate wafers I

make. Both girls have red dots on their butts that their Ped said was yeast.

The ointment he prescribed has not helped. I am trying epsom salt baths. No

changes yet.

Are you doing any supplements?

April

maggie_orourke <maggie_orourke@...> wrote:

>

> Yesterday he dropped something on my foot and when I said, " OW! That

> hurt! " he actually got down and kissed my foot. Any other time, he

> wouldn't have cared if he hurt someone. Yesterday he also brought

> something to me to share, rather than to fix or get help

> for....something the psych said kids with autism won't do.

>

> My ASD son shares things with me all the time. I think autistic kids

not being interested in sharing something with another person is an

outdated belief.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Le ,

My ds is 11. He has empathy, he wants to engage, he has lots of behaviors that

kids with autism aren't supposed to have, yet he has great deficits overall.

My personal theory is that most of our kids aren't autistic. They are

physically damaged. The medical field has no label for this, plus they have no

idea that this is so, so they just call it autism.

We saw Bryna Segal, one of the " world's leading autism specialists " when he was

4. She said he was not autistic. I said, " so what is he? " She said there is

no label for what he has today. She said to just put him with typical kids and

he'd be fine. Fortunately we didn't listen to that part, he isn't able to just

" asorb " what's around him, he has needed extensive intervention. Every other

professional assessment he's had says he has autism.

Your sons probably act depending on how their body is doing that day, like most

kids.

You might try a supplement or two and see if they respond. My son's first was

fish oil and he still takes it, it really helps his focus. Epsom salt baths are

easy, and may be benefical also. Kudos to you on the diet support, that is

important for any child.

Best wishes,

Sometimes

Posted by: " Le " leannalp@... leannalp

Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:02 pm (PST)

I have an odd question and I'm wondering if anyone else here

experiences this with their child?

I have twins, will be 3 in March. They are currently in speech and

occupational therapies. We have not done any supplements, but we

have pinpointed some foods that we think they are

intolerant/sensitive to and have cut those out with great results.

Sugar, MSG, food additives, some dairy.

One twin is PDD-NOS with probable ADHD. For the most part, he

is " with us " everyday - interacting, imaginary play, highly talkative

but not yet verbal...some words we can understand here & there.

Our other twin has mild to moderate autism. When they were both

evaluated by the psych, he said it was VERY difficult as to where to

place them on the spectrum because he could tell they COULD do some

of his tests if they wanted to...especially this guy. The psych had

reports from speech & OT stating things he will/would do with them

but he refused with the psych. Hence, the mild to moderate.

For us as parents, since we spend every day with him, it is even hard

for us to figure this guy out. Some days he is in a " zone " and not

quite here with us. Gets into anything and everything he knows he

isn't supposed to get into (including danger items), bangs his head

on the couch (he's learned the floor and walls hurt!), spitting out

juice or water everywhere, trying to bite his brothers, banging into

things like he can't see them, etc. Typical things that look like

stimming.

On other days, like yesterday, he's a happy go lucky kid. He will

listen to verbal commands, use his sign language, seems to want to

talk, doesn't bang his head, doesn't get into everything, doesn't

spit!, none of his " usual " stimming, and is generally fun to be

around.

Yesterday he dropped something on my foot and when I said, " OW! That

hurt! " he actually got down and kissed my foot. Any other time, he

wouldn't have cared if he hurt someone. Yesterday he also brought

something to me to share, rather than to fix or get help

for....something the psych said kids with autism won't do.

My DH suggested today about getting a brain CT scan of him thinking

that there could be a tumor or something pressing on his brain

causing the things we think are " stims " when it could be something

else.

So what do you think the deal is? Do your children change from day

to day so drastically?

Thanks for any information.

Le

[Guest guest]

Where to begin.To start off with we had a sweet baby boy who over te

past two years was a normal child,till he went to is on little world

he stop talking,and grow distance.We had a hard time potty traning

and geeting him to where clothes,we thought with a good start in

school at a young age who help him and it did we finally got him to

where clothes and got him potty train it took years to do we new

early in life he was autism before dr's told us.we did know what we

where up against but we face it head on took him took different dr's

and got help and it help him for a while till he reach purety and

then it got worse and over the years aound 12 we where face with

seizures and we had to go thourgh alot of med to get the right one,we

almost lost him with a bad seizures but he pull thourgh and then in

the last year or so his behavior has gotten worse day by day we are

lost with what he is capable of doing he is self abusive violent and

in rages with himself and can be with his dad.We have found a place

that can help him but we dont know if it will help or make thigs

worse then they are we dont wont him thinking we dont love him when

we take him and drop him off for how ever long it takes.But we face

the behavior and welook for them cause in a second he can be happy

and change to mad.

We have to do so much in things that we dont understand to dig holes

in yard to bury toys,to taking toys apart to fix them on

others.....We have to sew hats and shirts and other stuff he takes

things and has us to cut them so he can rip them to they are nothing

to watch him hit his self to hit his head or grab at your wrist to

hit is ears with hand.We have to watch to make sure he dont hurt us

or our daughter...............We are just so lost we dont know what

to do we dont know what going on in his head that makes him do this

things and wont whats best for him and for our daughter not to see

these things to upset her and we dont know if putting him somewhere

is the answer or if the worse cause it a chance he wont ever be able

to come home or to understand that we are doing it beacuse we love

him and wont him to get better so he can come home.............I know

that it hard on us and other family with kids with autism and i know

they are like us lost ..........We just love him and we cant stand to

wait and watch him hurt himself or others

around.................................he can be sweet and lovable

and he can be moody and they are real bad im not saying he is not

sweet cause he can be and he will always be my

baby....................................