Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I can only find info on B12 > > > > No kidding Dana? How did you give it? It's all the additives even natural ones. > > > I used capsules. B1 allowed us to eat artificial colors and flavors, MSG, and nitrates. Before B1 those things caused MAJOR headaches and other problems. B1 also eliminated our tendency to be mosquito magnets, and to have mosquito bites that swelled up into huge welts. After B1, no more bites. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 In a message dated 24/09/2009 20:56:20 GMT Daylight Time, andrea.edmondson@... writes: I am currently giving my son 2 * TriEnza before each of his meals. Our DAN (M) advises that is still struggling to digest fats..would there be a more suitable enzyme to use or would it be worth increasing the TriEnza??? Hi Zyme Prime is the higher Lipase product, you could switch to I cap Zyme and 1 cap TriEnza that would work out cheaper anyways and double the Lipase he is getting (TriEnza already contains a full cap of Zyme). High Lipase enzymes can often cause tummy aches so ease it in slowly if he can't tell you whether its upsetting him. I guess he could be digesting but not utilizing it properly, I have read that B5 and Cartinine is good for that - does he take any of those? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 In a message dated 24/09/2009 20:56:20 GMT Daylight Time, andrea.edmondson@... writes: I am currently giving my son 2 * TriEnza before each of his meals. Our DAN (M) advises that is still struggling to digest fats..would there be a more suitable enzyme to use or would it be worth increasing the TriEnza??? Hi Zyme Prime is the higher Lipase product, you could switch to I cap Zyme and 1 cap TriEnza that would work out cheaper anyways and double the Lipase he is getting (TriEnza already contains a full cap of Zyme). High Lipase enzymes can often cause tummy aches so ease it in slowly if he can't tell you whether its upsetting him. I guess he could be digesting but not utilizing it properly, I have read that B5 and Cartinine is good for that - does he take any of those? Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Lypo gold (enzymedica) is'nt too bad as an alternative, a bit expensive though. Cheers Kenny > > > In a message dated 24/09/2009 20:56:20 GMT Daylight Time, > andrea.edmondson@... writes: > > I am currently giving my son 2 * TriEnza before each of his meals. Our DAN > (M) advises that is still struggling to digest fats..would > there be a more suitable enzyme to use or would it be worth increasing the > TriEnza??? > > > > Hi > > Zyme Prime is the higher Lipase product, you could switch to I cap Zyme and > 1 cap TriEnza that would work out cheaper anyways and double the Lipase he > is getting (TriEnza already contains a full cap of Zyme). > > High Lipase enzymes can often cause tummy aches so ease it in slowly if he > can't tell you whether its upsetting him. > > I guess he could be digesting but not utilizing it properly, I have read > that B5 and Cartinine is good for that - does he take any of those? > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Lypo gold (enzymedica) is'nt too bad as an alternative, a bit expensive though. Cheers Kenny > > > In a message dated 24/09/2009 20:56:20 GMT Daylight Time, > andrea.edmondson@... writes: > > I am currently giving my son 2 * TriEnza before each of his meals. Our DAN > (M) advises that is still struggling to digest fats..would > there be a more suitable enzyme to use or would it be worth increasing the > TriEnza??? > > > > Hi > > Zyme Prime is the higher Lipase product, you could switch to I cap Zyme and > 1 cap TriEnza that would work out cheaper anyways and double the Lipase he > is getting (TriEnza already contains a full cap of Zyme). > > High Lipase enzymes can often cause tummy aches so ease it in slowly if he > can't tell you whether its upsetting him. > > I guess he could be digesting but not utilizing it properly, I have read > that B5 and Cartinine is good for that - does he take any of those? > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes are different. We are starting back on the capsules after hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 We just went through a breakdown in behaviors that seems to be caused by enzymes. We took away all supplements and added back one at a time. The enzymes seem to be the common denominator. First we tried Trienza and everything went well for about a week. Then we started have a meltdown situation every night between 7 and 8. By the way, thanks for all of your advice through this situation. We didn't give for a few days; behaviror improved. Then we tried Lacto by Enzymedica. Same deal. Thinking they were just too strong for his delicate digestive system, we tried Kidszymes. Immediate reaction. Seems that the Trienza took longer to react than the others. We will try enzymes again, but need more research and maybe trying one at a time very slowly.  D. From: vblaesing <vblaesing@...> Subject: Re: trienza Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 1:05 PM  thanks for your reply VickiB > > We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes are different. We are starting back on the capsules after hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you know. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Some kids are more sensitive. We've never had a problem with medications or other supplements, but all of the enzymes we've used digestive, yeast, anti-viral, and Ph caused problems if we introduced too fast. Karla > > > > > > > > We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. > > We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must > > be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac > > disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We > > tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried > > to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes > > are different. We are starting back on the capsules after > > hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the > > complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Karla,  Thanks for your response. How much did you give to start? Never want to go through this again. Would I be better off trying the individual enzymes one at a time to see if there is more of a problem with one than another? Or just go back to the Trienza, but give only a tiny bit to start.  Drissia From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...> Subject: Re: trienza Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 7:50 PM  Some kids are more sensitive. We've never had a problem with medications or other supplements, but all of the enzymes we've used digestive, yeast, anti-viral, and Ph caused problems if we introduced too fast. Karla > > > > > > > > We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. > > We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must > > be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac > > disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We > > tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried > > to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes > > are different. We are starting back on the capsules after > > hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the > > complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 You could stick with the trienza and just start at a low dose, but if it causes problems even at small doses, it will be impossible to know which one is causing the problem. Id do the individual ones at first, one at a time, that way if one is a problem you'll know pretty quick. I started with a quarter cap mixed with juice half an hr before meals, but I know of others that just sprinkle it right on the food (provided its not hot, too hot and it will kill the enzymes). Give it a week before increasing. Karla > > > > > > > > > > We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. > > > We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must > > > be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac > > > disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We > > > tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried > > > to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes > > > are different. We are starting back on the capsules after > > > hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the > > > complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Thanks so much for everyone's responses. I have tried my son on Houston's enzymes many times in the past but he always seemed to have problems. He is currently taking similase and similase-gfcf from Integrative Therapeutics, Inc. thru his Doctor but I wanted to add no-fenol without adding another pill. I had to back away from giving him enzymes for a while but he is tolerating them now. I have ordered the TriEnza. VickiB > > > > I would like to hear the testimonials of families that have tried using the trienza enzyme from Houston. Good and bad. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Here's my experience: After only a couple of weeks on gfcf (I burnt out having to cook constantly, we have no good health food stores for hours away), we went to Trienza with additional No-Phenol. My 2 dds are 12, one on the spectrum and the other with high anxiety/phobia issues & dyslexia. Both adopted in Russia around 9 mos, vaccinated in both countries. My girls reacted neither to the diet or the enzymes. I on the other hand had a big " die-off " . It was like I had the flu for weeks, but with enough differences that I could tell it wasn't an actual flu. Cleaned me out big time(sorry). That was back in October. I've continued to cook whole foods, with a slant toward gfcf where I can. We stayed faithfully with Trienza until last month. Neither girl had any response. Due to the cost, we tried Source Naturals for the last month - their all in one enzyme formula, but no DDPIV. Still no reaction for my girls. For myself, I did beautifully on the Trienza for a few weeks, then would get way gassy (sorry!) every day, the 2nd half of the day. When we switched to source naturals, again, did beautifully for a few weeks, then the same problem. We all take Culturelle in the am, GSE & Biotin in the evening, and lots of other supplements in between. I'm thinking my problem may be juicing fruits and vegetables together, as I've heard that can cause the gas problem, but I want to juice vegetables, but can't handle the taste without some fruit in it. I had a double mastectomy in December and want to do what I can not to have a recurrence. Does anyone have an idea why my girls would show no response at all to the enzymes? We'd done the lab test for gluten & casein before starting and both showed high antibodies for casein. We did the no casein diet for maybe 5 wks (I know we didn't do the gluten-free diet long enough, but I totally burnt out, we homeschool, too), and that's supposed to be long enough to see if casein-free helps: neither showed any change. The only thing we've tried ( & we've tried plenty) that's helped is my daughter on the spectrum shows a marked improvement with chelating (dmsa/ala). We are on round 8. The dd with anxiety/phobias/dyslexia has not showed a response (other than a total breakdown when we tried the ala without dmsa), but she weighs quite a bit more and we may not have her dose high enough yet. Like I said, if anyone has a take on why they showed no response to enzymes, I'd like to be enlightened. Blessings, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I love the product and i love the price. My son used to take GlutenEase at first but they were more expensive and did not contain the no-phenol ingredient that my son needs. He takes 2 capsules of trienza and 1/2 cap. of no-phenol. He used to bite himself, yell at the top of his lungs and would make a funny-annoying noise all the time and now it's gone. From: vblaesing <vblaesing@...> Subject: Re: trienza Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:38 AM  Thanks so much for everyone's responses. I have tried my son on Houston's enzymes many times in the past but he always seemed to have problems. He is currently taking similase and similase-gfcf from Integrative Therapeutics, Inc. thru his Doctor but I wanted to add no-fenol without adding another pill. I had to back away from giving him enzymes for a while but he is tolerating them now. I have ordered the TriEnza. VickiB > > > > I would like to hear the testimonials of families that have tried using the trienza enzyme from Houston. Good and bad. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter > http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 195013117/ direct/01/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 this sounds like my son. To this day (after three years), I can still not give him most enzymes because his behavior gets really bad and it increases the longer he is on it. The only enzymes I've been able to give my son were from Maile Pouls and it is called digestive stomach enzymes. I'm not sure why...and I thought at some point we would try going really, really slow with some of the others because I wonder if it could be die off that I am seeing. My son, too, reacts very strongly to medications and things he takes. Viola > > > > > > > > We are in the beginning stages of trying Trienza. > > We started with the capsules and, unfortunately my son must > > be in that small percentage of people who have true celiac > > disease and enzymes will not allow us off the GF diet. We > > tried the chewables and they were horrible for us! I tried > > to take them myself and couldn't. I guess eberyone's tastes > > are different. We are starting back on the capsules after > > hearing Dr. Houston speak and hearing more about the > > complete story on the biochemical aspect. I'll let you > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Havent experienced it, but have spoken with others who have. They didnt seem to have problems with each of the enzymes individually, but the combo caused problems. Karla > > Hi all, > did any body notice that TriEnza from Houstun will make the kids more hyperactive, i have experience this with my son, he will become more hyper while using TriEnz cap. Any comments??? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 After reading some posts we decided to go with the Trienze chewable tablets from Houston Enzymes. Only thing is, my picky little guy wont eat them!! I tried one and they remind me of a sweet tart candy but I cant get him to even lick it. Any other people have kids that wont eat them? What did you do? I cant imagine they hide well in food because of the flavor and I wasnt sure how they would disolve in juice (also would the taste of the tablet be to overpowering for the juice). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also, on another note, I got our Pedi to write us a prescription for Nystatin. Does the liquid form have gluten or casein to anyones knowledge? Pharmacy and Pedi didnt know. Also, can we continue to take all of our supplements while taking Nystatin (havent started it yet). Currently we take, fish oil, DMG, Spectrum Awakening. Thanks!! Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 How old and how much does he understand? Have the pharmacy call and find out the answer. Tammy Trienza After reading some posts we decided to go with the Trienze chewable tablets from Houston Enzymes. Only thing is, my picky little guy wont eat them!! I tried one and they remind me of a sweet tart candy but I cant get him to even lick it. Any other people have kids that wont eat them? What did you do? I cant imagine they hide well in food because of the flavor and I wasnt sure how they would disolve in juice (also would the taste of the tablet be to overpowering for the juice). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also, on another note, I got our Pedi to write us a prescription for Nystatin. Does the liquid form have gluten or casein to anyones knowledge? Pharmacy and Pedi didnt know. Also, can we continue to take all of our supplements while taking Nystatin (havent started it yet). Currently we take, fish oil, DMG, Spectrum Awakening. Thanks!! Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 When I started the tri enza with my 7 year old daughter I cut them into 4 with a tablet cutter. I originally did this to intoduce the dose slowly but I aslo think it helped get used to the taste, texture and just having it but it went down better as it wasn't so big. I then gave her 2 then 3 seperate 1/4's - now she will have a couple of full ones. Alison R (UK) On 4 May 2010 19:55, nancy cook <endofautism@...> wrote: > > > We do the dye-free nystatin, it's gfcfsf. Continue everything, the first > week you might want to add charcoal before bed to mop up the die-off. Make > sure 2 hrs away from supps. If you crush trienze and put it in juice, it > will taste good. Just make sure it's crushed well so it melts easy. > > nancy j > > > > > From: stacey_pizzano <stacey_pizzano@...<stacey_pizzano%40> > > > Subject: Trienza > <%40> > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 7:14 AM > > > > > After reading some posts we decided to go with the Trienze chewable tablets > from Houston Enzymes. Only thing is, my picky little guy wont eat them!! I > tried one and they remind me of a sweet tart candy but I cant get him to > even lick it. Any other people have kids that wont eat them? What did you > do? I cant imagine they hide well in food because of the flavor and I wasnt > sure how they would disolve in juice (also would the taste of the tablet be > to overpowering for the juice). Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Also, on another note, I got our Pedi to write us a prescription for > Nystatin. Does the liquid form have gluten or casein to anyones knowledge? > Pharmacy and Pedi didnt know. Also, can we continue to take all of our > supplements while taking Nystatin (havent started it yet). Currently we > take, fish oil, DMG, Spectrum Awakening. > > Thanks!! > > Stacey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 My son won't chew those either. He will chew the peptyzide chewables. which have a completely different taste and texture. I called Houston enzymes and was told they use a different tableter for the TRIENZA chewables and actually are going to be changing to a new one which should be BETTER. I agree they do not taste or feel that good. The dose powders are Sooooo Easy to hide in drinks etc... When I ordered I got Peptyzide chewables, and the dose powder for Peptyzide and zymeprime just in case he would prefer one over the other. Maybe you can call them and get a sample of the powders! I even got the TriEnza capsules and open them in to chocolate and freeze a few doses--he loves it:) angelique > > After reading some posts we decided to go with the Trienze chewable tablets from Houston Enzymes. Only thing is, my picky little guy wont eat them!! I tried one and they remind me of a sweet tart candy but I cant get him to even lick it. Any other people have kids that wont eat them? What did you do? I cant imagine they hide well in food because of the flavor and I wasnt sure how they would disolve in juice (also would the taste of the tablet be to overpowering for the juice). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Also, on another note, I got our Pedi to write us a prescription for Nystatin. Does the liquid form have gluten or casein to anyones knowledge? Pharmacy and Pedi didnt know. Also, can we continue to take all of our supplements while taking Nystatin (havent started it yet). Currently we take, fish oil, DMG, Spectrum Awakening. > > Thanks!! > Stacey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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