Re: Pupils when out of control

[Guest guest]

Is there folonic in it? Some kids can't do it. Also if that is a problem alot of

poeple are using Hydroxy B12 instead.

Dilated eyes that seem to look though you in my house is a flare of some type

but if you think it's tied to the B12 look into that for sure.

>

> I posted last week about some out of control behavior and have just one more

piece to add.

>

> We've often commented that when he's like that " you can just see it in his

eyes that he's irrational and crazy " Well it occurred to me yesterday (when we

were having another big breakdown) that you really can see it in his eyes. They

are dilated. And one almost seems to wander a bit, not really wander, but isn't

teaming right with the other.

>

> The other piece is that it really is coming (at least three times in a row) on

the 3rd day after a mB12 shot, right before we due for the next one.

>

> Is there something in the B12/folate cycle or methylation cycles that would

effect the nervous system or neurotransmitters that would cause the dilated

pupils and lack of cognitive function or control?

>

> We are actually getting neurotransmitters tested right now. Any ideas what we

might be looking for there?

>

[Guest guest]

Pardon me for interrupting, but how do you get neurotransmitters tested? Even

when I took my son(years ago) to a neurologists, they didn't mention testing

neurotransmitters, just gave him an SSRI which backfired.

 

Thanks,

D.

From: AngieM <amercier@...>

Subject: Re: Pupils when out of control

Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 9:18 AM

 

Is there folonic in it? Some kids can't do it. Also if that is a problem alot of

poeple are using Hydroxy B12 instead.

Dilated eyes that seem to look though you in my house is a flare of some type

but if you think it's tied to the B12 look into that for sure.

>

> I posted last week about some out of control behavior and have just one more

piece to add.

>

> We've often commented that when he's like that " you can just see it in his

eyes that he's irrational and crazy " Well it occurred to me yesterday (when we

were having another big breakdown) that you really can see it in his eyes. They

are dilated. And one almost seems to wander a bit, not really wander, but isn't

teaming right with the other.

>

> The other piece is that it really is coming (at least three times in a row) on

the 3rd day after a mB12 shot, right before we due for the next one.

>

> Is there something in the B12/folate cycle or methylation cycles that would

effect the nervous system or neurotransmitters that would cause the dilated

pupils and lack of cognitive function or control?

>

> We are actually getting neurotransmitters tested right now. Any ideas what we

might be looking for there?

>

[Guest guest]

Why don't you mention this timing association to your doctor and ask if you

could try the MB-12 shots every other day, rather than every third day.

> > The other piece is that it really is coming (at least three times in a row)

on the 3rd day after a mB12 shot, right before we due for the next one.

[Guest guest]

these pupils are reacting in concert, not just one pupil. I'd say he's in

fight-or-flight mode and the adrenals and cortisol are putting him in a super

high state of arousal. I have seen this.

The neurofeedback will help, but the biochemical approach must be done

simultaneously. I agree that trying the B12 shots every other day to " head off "

the " Day 3 " behaviors should be the first approach. If that doesn't work, then

consider that he has yeast overload if the more frequent methyl B12

implementation. However, the pattern of " third day " is intriguing ... and you

are onto " something " with the way he methylates. You may find that daily shots

are best, actually.

I wish there was a transdermal patch that worked to provide a more regulated

flow of methyl B12.

>

> I posted last week about some out of control behavior and have just one more

piece to add.

>

> We've often commented that when he's like that " you can just see it in his

eyes that he's irrational and crazy " Well it occurred to me yesterday (when we

were having another big breakdown) that you really can see it in his eyes. They

are dilated. And one almost seems to wander a bit, not really wander, but isn't

teaming right with the other.

>

> The other piece is that it really is coming (at least three times in a row) on

the 3rd day after a mB12 shot, right before we due for the next one.

>

> Is there something in the B12/folate cycle or methylation cycles that would

effect the nervous system or neurotransmitters that would cause the dilated

pupils and lack of cognitive function or control?

>

> We are actually getting neurotransmitters tested right now. Any ideas what we

might be looking for there?

>