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In a message dated 22/04/01 06:18:14 GMT Daylight Time, costedia@... writes:

I have found an interesting article:

http://www.healthexcel.com/docs/_cand1.html

which links overactive yeast to all my conditions including P and arthritis.

Hi ,

Thanks for the info. Will have a look later.

I do think that most of us, with PA do suffer with the old 'yeast' problem, I certainly do, so try to keep away from it as much as I can.

Mike (in the UK)

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In a message dated 4/22/01 12:18:16 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

costedia@... writes:

<< overactive yeast to all my conditions including P and

arthritis. Anyone else who has chronic problems with yeast

infections should read this article.

in KS >>

- interesting article and I found it informative as I do have this

problem. A word of warning though - while it may be true that strengthening

the immune system will get rid of recurring yeast infections, strengthening

our immune systems with PA is the last thing we want to do! Our problem IS

an overactive immune system.

However, the nutritional advice was good and one point I really liked was

" metabolic individuality " - at last someone is recognizing that all of us are

different!! Our bodies metabolize differently. This is probably why I am

having such trouble with kidney stones lately and have always had trouble

with weight control. I know traditional medical treatment likes to make it

MY fault - You eat too much. You don't drink enough water. But I truly

believe that the root of the matter is how my body metabolizes different

elements. I'm praying that more and more medical attention will be focused

in this area.

Thanks for the info,

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thrush is the name for yeast on the tongue.

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<p>A easy sign to recognize for Yeast is:<br>

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" A white coated tongue. Another name for Candida in mouth is <br>

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If a person has a white coated tongue; this means Candida Yeast.<br>

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There is also a saliva test where you drop spit into a glass of water.<br>

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If the saliva forms threads in the water; it indicates Yeast. Trivia:<br>

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" A dark-brown or black-tongue indiates: A Deficieny of Niacin Vit.B3.<br>

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Constipation is my nemisis and nightmare! Things that I have found that

work....

Freshly squeezed orange juice....

a bowl of cherries (careful or you will cause diarrhea)

I did those for a while with great success. But now, I buy vitamin C in

powdered form and put a tablespoonful into a morning smoothy (filled with fresh

fruits and veggies) and it has seemed to have done the trick.

I also give him an additional supplement or 2 throughout the day if I can.

I used to use all sorts of laxitive type products such as metamusil and mineral

oil but long term use of that stuff is not good for the kids and provides no

nutritional benefits. The vitamin C is absolutely wonderful for our kids

(antioxident) and heavy doses of it keeps that constipation at bay and those

bowels moving....

Janice

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> My 6 year old boy was found to have yeast and nutrition defieciency. He

> was put on supplem. and gfcf diet. We started with houston enzymes 3

> weeks ago. He still has a problem with constipation.

Constipation ideas

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

Rice is constipating, so try removing that, especially if the

constipation started when he went gfcf. Several supplements are also

constipating, see link above.

Adding magnesium and yeast control can be helpful, more info on link

above.

Dana

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Houston has enzymes that come in a powder form. That would hopefully be

something easy to mix into baby food. Not sure about how hard it is to

cover up maybe someone else can comment on that. My 8 and 5 year old use

the chewables with no issues. Swallowing capsules would save money and less

to chew, which is my goal. I understand the capsules can open and put in

juice too.

I would start out by reading Dana’s web site and Defelice’s web site

and book, web site is enzymestuff. That will give you some good basic info

to get started on enzymes, yeast, vitamins. Brainchild also has a great web

site and very user friendly vitamins and minerals that mix in my sons orange

juice beautifully, love it!

Hopes this helps you and those getting started in this long journey or trial

and error.

Tammy

Yeast

Does anyone know the signs of yeast overgrowth? My twins have small red

bumps on their butts and sometimes on their legs. Their pedtrician says

it is candida. Now my son 1 year old has the same thing. I am using

Threelac for the twins but not seeing much improvement. I am wondering

if they should be on something else?

I have been reading all the postings. I am amazed how much everyone

knows. How did you start the enzymes? Where can I find the information?

Is there someone I can talk to to help me with this process of

determining what is good for them?

I am concerned how the twins will eat only baby food. They will sit in

my lap with a spoon when I am feeding their younger brother.They will

be 3 in March. It is hard enough to get the threelac in their food let

alone anything else.

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www.danasview.com will help tons with alot of your questions. Also,

gfcfkids

Put the three lac in a juice and pull it up in a syringe and down the hatch it

goes.... I use a 10cc syringe and put about 5cc of juice, orange or lemonaide

and mix it up then pull it up and get it in that way. I get the syringes from my

Pharmacy. HTH.

ape0522 <ape0522@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the signs of yeast overgrowth? My twins have small

red

bumps on their butts and sometimes on their legs. Their pedtrician says

it is candida. Now my son 1 year old has the same thing. I am using

Threelac for the twins but not seeing much improvement. I am wondering

if they should be on something else?

I have been reading all the postings. I am amazed how much everyone

knows. How did you start the enzymes? Where can I find the information?

Is there someone I can talk to to help me with this process of

determining what is good for them?

I am concerned how the twins will eat only baby food. They will sit in

my lap with a spoon when I am feeding their younger brother.They will

be 3 in March. It is hard enough to get the threelac in their food let

alone anything else.

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Check out Brainnchild. They have a yeast protocol with several natural

things to rotate to keep fighting. Great success stories from others!

Tammy

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I was wondering how long other people have been using nystatin or difulucan.

My son's yeast test came back and it said he had many forms of yeast.

His doctor put him on nystatin 6 months ago and then added diflucan 3 months

ago.I have been using natural antifungals in rotation as well.

I talked to his doctor in a follow up consultation and told him that after

we started each he had an intitial die off for a couple of days and then

nothing after that.My son has improved all around including eating

better.Now originally his doctor had told me that he would be on antifungals

for 1-2 years since his infection was so bad,but after the consult he said

to discontinue both antifungals.His feeling is if you don't see anything new

good or bad then its time to stop.I suggested another antifungal but he said

no.Now I am concerned because he hasn't been tested to see if the infection

is gone and they had said he had so many strains of yeast that it would take

various things and a long time to get rid of it.

Is it possible to get rid of yeast this fast? He is also doing chelation

which I know can stir up yeast so I plan on keeping him on the natural

antifungals but I am wondering if I should push to keep him on the

others.Has anyone done it for only 6 months and if so did the yeast come

back after you stopped?

Thanks for any help,

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We give a GSE tablet daily and one AM and PM when on a round of chelation.

Definitely has made a difference. The " quirkiness " is definitely GONE now.

Tamara Kuhn <tkuhn1@...> wrote:

Check out Brainnchild. They have a yeast protocol with several natural

things to rotate to keep fighting. Great success stories from others!

Tammy

[ ] yeast

I was wondering how long other people have been using nystatin or difulucan.

My son's yeast test came back and it said he had many forms of yeast.

His doctor put him on nystatin 6 months ago and then added diflucan 3 months

ago.I have been using natural antifungals in rotation as well.

I talked to his doctor in a follow up consultation and told him that after

we started each he had an intitial die off for a couple of days and then

nothing after that.My son has improved all around including eating

better.Now originally his doctor had told me that he would be on antifungals

for 1-2 years since his infection was so bad,but after the consult he said

to discontinue both antifungals.His feeling is if you don't see anything new

good or bad then its time to stop.I suggested another antifungal but he said

no.Now I am concerned because he hasn't been tested to see if the infection

is gone and they had said he had so many strains of yeast that it would take

various things and a long time to get rid of it.

Is it possible to get rid of yeast this fast? He is also doing chelation

which I know can stir up yeast so I plan on keeping him on the natural

antifungals but I am wondering if I should push to keep him on the

others.Has anyone done it for only 6 months and if so did the yeast come

back after you stopped?

Thanks for any help,

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Yeast can become tolerant of nystatin and diflucan and it may not work

after a while. That is why they don't want to leave him on it or try

another antifungal. The real key for final elmination of it, is immune

function and getting rid of metals. We have been using natural

antifungals for two years while we chelate.

We had the same thing with nystatin, saw die off and temporary

improvement, then it came right back. I went back to GSE..it worked

better and did not contain artificial colors/flavors or aluminum.

Which is what was in the liquid nystatin. Blek!

Diflucan is expensive and some insurances won't pay for daily long

term use, and it is taxing on the liver.

In my experience, it is not possible to get rid of systemic yeast that

fast, or for it to stay gone, it usually comes back. And will if your

chelating.

It may be under control at this time, which is great. Keep using the

natural antifungals. Just increase those and his probiotics if you

should see yeast symptoms. Personally, for us the GSE works better

than scripts and is sooo much cheaper.

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> I was wondering how long other people have been using nystatin or

difulucan.

> My son's yeast test came back and it said he had many forms of yeast.

> His doctor put him on nystatin 6 months ago and then added

diflucan 3 months ago.I have been using natural antifungals in

rotation as well.

> I talked to his doctor in a follow up consultation and told him

that after we started each he had an intitial die off for a couple of

days and then nothing after that.My son has improved all around

including eating better.Now originally his doctor had told me that he

would be on antifungals for 1-2 years since his infection was so

bad,but after the consult he said to discontinue both antifungals.His

feeling is if you don't see anything new good or bad then its time to

stop.I suggested another antifungal but he said no.Now I am concerned

because he hasn't been tested to see if the infection is gone and they

had said he had so many strains of yeast that it would take various

things and a long time to get rid of it.

> Is it possible to get rid of yeast this fast? He is also doing

chelation which I know can stir up yeast so I plan on keeping him on

the natural antifungals but I am wondering if I should push to keep

him on the others.Has anyone done it for only 6 months and if so did

the yeast come back after you stopped?

> Thanks for any help,

>

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>>Now originally his doctor had told me that he would be on

antifungals for 1-2 years since his infection was so bad,but after the

consult he said to discontinue both antifungals.His feeling is if you

don't see anything new good or bad then its time to stop.I suggested

another antifungal but he said no.Now I am concerned because he hasn't

been tested to see if the infection is gone and they had said he had

so many strains of yeast that it would take various things and a long

time to get rid of it.

> Is it possible to get rid of yeast this fast?

GSE will eliminate yeast that fast. But it will come back, depending

on what you feed him, what supps you give, and what issues you need to

address.

My son's yeast was gone permanently, with after chelation,

anti-virals, and biotin supplementation.

>>He is also doing chelation which I know can stir up yeast so I plan

on keeping him on the natural antifungals but I am wondering if I

should push to keep him on the others.

I used only naturals. To control yeast until the metals and viruses

were gone, I gave biotin and GSE.

Dana

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Kandee, Kefir or yogurt works to help clear it up. You can also mix a little biokult into the yogurt -- just be careful. I did that once for my daughter's diaper rash and it was too strong and burned. In addition, I also find that aloe helps if there is irritation. What I did with a yeasty diaper rash was topically apply kefir and fresh aloe (from the plant) at every diaper change. The other thing that really helps to clear it up is "naked time". Let her go without a diaper for as long as possible -- ideally at least an hour every day.Daily chamomile baths are also very soothing to the area.Ann MarieOn Mar 24, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Kandee Edge wrote:My youngest daughter has a yeast infection. She's still in diapers which isn't helping. It was this and the fact that she is underweight that I knew she had the same gut dysbiosis as my oldest daughter. My question is...other than following the GAPS diet and using Biokult, what can I do to clear up the infection?

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I am currently using Candidase to get rid of my 11 year old daughter's

yeast. I went slow and I finally got her up to 5 Candidase a day.

When I went from 4 to 5 her language regressed a little and when she

communicates she says some odd things (more than usual). She is a

little tired, but as of now she feels fine. She also told me she was

having weird dreams, not scary, just weird. Are these symptoms normal

when yeast is being cleared out of the body. Any input would be

greatly appreciated.

Thank you

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At one point two of my kids and myself had such tonsil problems I wanted

them out. What I have discovered though, is that it was yeast. Also,

the ear infections could very likely be yeast too. We've treated both

as yeast at this house and had a dramatic reduction (actually, almost no

recurrence) in issues. I don't believe removing the tonsils and

adenoids would reduce the yeast. Probably, just changed where it went.

Try a yeast protocol and see if it helps. We don't do grapefruit seed

extract (GSE) long term here, but we use it when it appears. We didn't

recognize the symptoms for yeast until after the fact. We treated

tonsillitis with GSE without realizing it was yeast. Why should I? MDs

told me for years it was bacterial and kept giving me antibiotics, all

of which my son was allergic to.

When we treated the tonsillitis with GSE other issues like eye blinking,

rolling skin between finger and thumb then sniffing, even language

blocks, cleared. So, we took note of what the GSE improved and

attributed them to yeast. Now, we call them yeast signs. When we see

them start up, we do GSE for a day again. My son is older so he puts 10

drops in 6 oz of water, gargles and swallows. I've heard of some who

just take a pill, others who put a drop or two in juice a few times a

day. We added biotin daily at Dana's recommendation. 5mg was what he

was taking while we were still getting this down. Now, he doesn't take

any biotin, and only rarely has to use the GSE. I also believe that

chelation for 6 months has really helped too since he has obvious

problems. But, we haven't had another throat infection. I attribute

that to keeping his yeast low or gone with GSE.

P.

Sheena wrote:

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> Ok, so I have been reading and YEAST keeps coming up.... But I can't

> find the symtoms... how do I know? A link? A yellow brick road? :)

>

> My younger (Chase) non-ASD son is actually my sickly son. Multiple ear

> infections which led to tubes and then he had his tosils and adnoids

> removed with a shocked doctor that didn't know how this little boy

> could breath with those things in his throat or eat for that matter....

> he has excessive eczema since he was a baby and I keep reading YEAST

> and I'm thinkin' that this is his problem... I know this is not exactly

> on our topic for this group, but healing both my sons are my main topic

> and could use help with both. Sometimes my little one gets over looked

> because I'm always having to handle my " special " son (Miles)... so

> maybe I can be helping them both? I have been taking the supplements

> (B12, acidophilus, cod liver oil) with my two sons, but the acidophilus

> made Chase's face swell a touch, so...

>

> Any suggestions would be helpful here. I'm not new to helping my sons,

> but I'm brand spankin' new to this form of treatment, but am excited

> about it!!!! :)

>

>

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You think that the eczema & the throat will clear w/ GSE? What's the yeast

protocol?

You are very helpful!

PS Useless, but weird thing about me, Miles & my little brother-we were born

w/out tonsils. We say Chase made up for our lack by havin such issues w/ his.

lol!

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> > Ok, so I have been reading and YEAST keeps coming up.... But I can't

> > find the symtoms... how do I know? A link? A yellow brick road? :)

> >

> > My younger (Chase) non-ASD son is actually my sickly son. Multiple ear

> > infections which led to tubes and then he had his tosils and adnoids

> > removed with a shocked doctor that didn't know how this little boy

> > could breath with those things in his throat or eat for that matter....

> > he has excessive eczema since he was a baby and I keep reading YEAST

> > and I'm thinkin' that this is his problem... I know this is not exactly

> > on our topic for this group, but healing both my sons are my main topic

> > and could use help with both. Sometimes my little one gets over looked

> > because I'm always having to handle my " special " son (Miles)... so

> > maybe I can be helping them both? I have been taking the supplements

> > (B12, acidophilus, cod liver oil) with my two sons, but the acidophilus

> > made Chase's face swell a touch, so...

> >

> > Any suggestions would be helpful here. I'm not new to helping my sons,

> > but I'm brand spankin' new to this form of treatment, but am excited

> > about it!!!! :)

> >

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I'd say, according to my experience, chances are good. Again, here we

mix 10 drops in 6 oz of water and gargle and swallow. For us, we

noticed results very quickly - within hours the throat infection which

had lingered for a week left. Then, even though he stopped doing GSE

the next day, we noticed the other tics and issues clearing or cleared

up over the course of the next week. Then we added the GSE back in for

a few days to finish them off!!! Now, we just look for eye rubbing.

The first sign yeast is increasing again for my son.

Others may be able to tell you how they do it. Some put drops in

juice. We chase with juice. It is pretty strong flavor - think

concentrated grapefruit pucker! But, my kids are older. You might add

biotin to your sons day too. 500mcg is what a lot use for that young to

start. The other thing is to cut out refined white everything (sugar,

flours, etc.) they feed yeast. We've done turbinado (sugar) only or

honey or molasses for years. I think that kept my son from being a lot

worse. We also limit use of white flour.

P.

ah, to just be born without tonsil. Mine fill up the whole back of my

throat even with all the caverns from infection!

Sheena wrote:

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> You think that the eczema & the throat will clear w/ GSE? What's the

> yeast protocol?

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> You are very helpful!

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> PS Useless, but weird thing about me, Miles & my little brother-we

> were born w/out tonsils. We say Chase made up for our lack by havin

> such issues w/ his. lol!

>

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I have my son on cod liver oil, B12 & acidophilus as of now. We are new to the

program. I want to add vit c next since the weather is getting cold. Should I

hold off on vit c & go for the biotin or what would you suggest? enzymes next?

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> > > > > Do you order your supplements online or is their a particular

> > store

> > > > > you frequent? I have trouble finding the things you mention....

> > but

> > > > > I'm new, so I'm probably lookin' at the wrong places. :)

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> > > > > I was gonna' order Threelatch online for my boys... that'll get

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Yeast shows up as excessive giggliness, hands in pants, " scripting " for my son.

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[ ] YEAST

Ok, so I have been reading and YEAST keeps coming up.... But I can't

find the symtoms... how do I know? A link? A yellow brick road? :)

My younger (Chase) non-ASD son is actually my sickly son. Multiple ear

infections which led to tubes and then he had his tosils and adnoids

removed with a shocked doctor that didn't know how this little boy

could breath with those things in his throat or eat for that matter....

he has excessive eczema since he was a baby and I keep reading YEAST

and I'm thinkin' that this is his problem... I know this is not exactly

on our topic for this group, but healing both my sons are my main topic

and could use help with both. Sometimes my little one gets over looked

because I'm always having to handle my " special " son (Miles)... so

maybe I can be helping them both? I have been taking the supplements

(B12, acidophilus, cod liver oil) with my two sons, but the acidophilus

made Chase's face swell a touch, so...

Any suggestions would be helpful here. I'm not new to helping my sons,

but I'm brand spankin' new to this form of treatment, but am excited

about it!!!! :)

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I would try enzymes next. Enzymes made a big difference with my

daughter. Her poops were formed after enzymes. You can add Vitamin C a

week later if you want. Just add things slowly and watch behaviours.

You might get some weird behaviours with the enzymes, but go with it

at first. My daughter takes Trienza and at first she verbally stimmed

like crazy until she was used to them. Now they help her so much.

What kind of B12 do you use? Is it Methyl B12?

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> > > store

> > > > > > you frequent? I have trouble finding the things you

mention....

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I have had my boys on prescription antifungals for six months now.  Do you think

I should take a break from that after we start the Ojibwa tea?  Will this tea

help enough since they are chelating?

 

Thanks, Dana

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> THANKYOU! I have a screamer anyway, I don't need to add anything to

> that!

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> > > > I'm new, so I'm probably lookin' at the wrong places. :)

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> > > > I was gonna' order Threelatch online for my boys... that'll get

> rid

> > > > of the yeast won't it?

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I am always too nervous to just do the tea while chelating. I still

give her biotin and GSE through out the day. Once the boys go through

a lot of rounds and you don't see the yeast or it's not as bad, try

just the tea. But while chelating I would keep as much stuff as I can

on board. I have never used the RX anti-fungals so I am not sure how

they would be with the tea. I would think you'll really get a good

handle the on the yeast though.

We are going through a huge bacterial die off from the tea right now.

I love the anti-bacterial side of this tea, it's amazing.

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Ok, next day I can add is saturdayso will look into enzymes. I wanted to start

w/ the epson salt baths... should I work those in like a new supplement? He's

just excited about them. :)

Uh, just b12 dissolve drops. I take them too & love them.

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> > > > > Do you order your supplements online or is their a particular

> > store

> > > > > you frequent? I have trouble finding the things you mention....

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> > > > > I'm new, so I'm probably lookin' at the wrong places. :)

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Thanks, I will stick with the diflucan then.  They still struggle with yeast (or

it could be parasites) even with the prescriptions.

 

Dana

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Subject: [ ] Re: YEAST

Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:44 PM

I am always too nervous to just do the tea while chelating. I still

give her biotin and GSE through out the day. Once the boys go through

a lot of rounds and you don't see the yeast or it's not as bad, try

just the tea. But while chelating I would keep as much stuff as I can

on board. I have never used the RX anti-fungals so I am not sure how

they would be with the tea. I would think you'll really get a good

handle the on the yeast though.

We are going through a huge bacterial die off from the tea right now.

I love the anti-bacterial side of this tea, it's amazing.

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No familiar w/ " scripting " .... explain?

Oh my! We definitely have a yeast problem! He giggles like a 14 year olf girl!

:)

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> Yeast shows up as excessive giggliness, hands in pants, " scripting " for my

son.

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> Barb

> [ ] YEAST

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> Ok, so I have been reading and YEAST keeps coming up.... But I can't

> find the symtoms... how do I know? A link? A yellow brick road? :)

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> My younger (Chase) non-ASD son is actually my sickly son. Multiple ear

> infections which led to tubes and then he had his tosils and adnoids

> removed with a shocked doctor that didn't know how this little boy

> could breath with those things in his throat or eat for that matter....

> he has excessive eczema since he was a baby and I keep reading YEAST

> and I'm thinkin' that this is his problem... I know this is not exactly

> on our topic for this group, but healing both my sons are my main topic

> and could use help with both. Sometimes my little one gets over looked

> because I'm always having to handle my " special " son (Miles)... so

> maybe I can be helping them both? I have been taking the supplements

> (B12, acidophilus, cod liver oil) with my two sons, but the acidophilus

> made Chase's face swell a touch, so...

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> Any suggestions would be helpful here. I'm not new to helping my sons,

> but I'm brand spankin' new to this form of treatment, but am excited

> about it!!!! :)

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