Anyone's Child had Extremely High Arabinose Levels on Organic Acid Test?

January 25, 2008

Ok, we just got back the Organic Acid Test results from Great Plains.

I was very suspicious of yeast because my son used to eat TONS of

sugar. He is now gluten/casein free, cut back on sugar/dyes and he

making remarkable improvements. He does have stimming issues still

(hand in front of face, making noises)but he is doing so much better

and less stimming. It used to be almost constantly making noises,

which I heard is a BIG sign of yeast.

So, I checked the yeast section on the test and he is " High " in 3

types of yeast. The most shocking was the arabinose levels....0-47 is

normal and he is at 1,390.23!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!! Has anyone had high

levels of this which you were able to successfully treat? I don't know

whether to be happy because it's treatable or scared because it's out

of control! I read some previous posts about yeast/oxalates and his

oxalic level was 84.10 and the " normal " range is 0-37, so that is

substantially high as well. I guess I am just looking for some

support....the arabinose especially seems SO high!!!

February 5, 2008

Sorry, I answer your question first hand , but, it so happens that

I've been researching yeast and stumbled across this article (re:

arabinose levels.) Perhaps it is something interesting to you too?

http://www.newtreatments.org/doc.php/WisdomExperience/46

best,

>

> So, I checked the yeast section on the test and he is " High " in 3

> types of yeast. The most shocking was the arabinose levels....0-47 is

> normal and he is at 1,390.23!!!!!!!!!!

February 5, 2008

We got our results back from Great Plains and also had high arabinose

(not nearly that high though, one son was at 210 and the other at

100). This was out only " yeast marker " and both kids had no sign of

yeast in the culture and sensitivity test. I asked about this on some

lists and basically there is disagreement as to whether arabinose is a

sign of yeast at all. I first read Dr Shaw's perspective in his book

" Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD " (which I have to say, I

find pretty convincing and I lean towards it), however someone who is

very knowledgeable and who's opinion I trust sent me several articles

that basically said that arabinose is not produced by yeast- that

yeast actually consume it, and that it something that is found in

carbohydrates and having a high arabinose level is a sign of poor

carbohydrate digestion. This actually fits both of my kids really

well. I've also been told that high this relates to high oxalates adn

that the woman (I forget her name, something Owen?) who runs the low

oxalate diet list has an interesting theory about arabinose and

carbohydrate digestion.

I can't find the links to the other articles about arabinose right

now. You can e-mail me off-list if you want them and I can look

around more.

Sorry, that probably caused more confusion than it helped! I'm at a

loss right now about what it means. We will be seeing a new doctor

this week and I am hoping for more help from her.

-Sierra

> >

> > So, I checked the yeast section on the test and he is " High " in 3

> > types of yeast. The most shocking was the arabinose levels....0-47 is

> > normal and he is at 1,390.23!!!!!!!!!!

>

February 5, 2008

my son had very high oxalic and very high arabinose

(like close to 2000) on the OAT, of course, every

category on his test was abnormal except for one (yes

that is 1). He had the OAT combo.

It's my understanding that the OAT measures anaerobic

yeast and the fecal part measures aerobic yeast. that

might be why yeast did not show up in the fecal test.

My son had " moderate " yeast in his fecal. I did not

think his arabinose should have been as high as it

was. I have seen literature on both views, that

arabinose indicates yeast or that it does not, and I

dont know what to think. My son's digestion is

horrible though. I'll be seeing my son's DAN on Feb 7

though and I hope to get some more insight.

--- purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...>

wrote:

> We got our results back from Great Plains and also

> had high arabinose

> (not nearly that high though, one son was at 210 and

> the other at

> 100). This was out only " yeast marker " and both

> kids had no sign of

> yeast in the culture and sensitivity test. I asked

> about this on some

> lists and basically there is disagreement as to

> whether arabinose is a

> sign of yeast at all. I first read Dr Shaw's

> perspective in his book

> " Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD " (which I

> have to say, I

> find pretty convincing and I lean towards it),

> however someone who is

> very knowledgeable and who's opinion I trust sent me

> several articles

> that basically said that arabinose is not produced

> by yeast- that

> yeast actually consume it, and that it something

> that is found in

> carbohydrates and having a high arabinose level is a

> sign of poor

> carbohydrate digestion. This actually fits both of

> my kids really

> well. I've also been told that high this relates to

> high oxalates adn

> that the woman (I forget her name, something Owen?)

> who runs the low

> oxalate diet list has an interesting theory about

> arabinose and

> carbohydrate digestion.

>

> I can't find the links to the other articles about

> arabinose right

> now. You can e-mail me off-list if you want them

> and I can look

> around more.

>

> Sorry, that probably caused more confusion than it

> helped! I'm at a

> loss right now about what it means. We will be

> seeing a new doctor

> this week and I am hoping for more help from her.

>

> -Sierra

>

> > >

> > > So, I checked the yeast section on the test and

> he is " High " in 3

> > > types of yeast. The most shocking was the

> arabinose levels....0-47 is

> > > normal and he is at 1,390.23!!!!!!!!!!

> >

>

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February 5, 2008

My sons, nt 5 yr old with food allergies, arabinose was 246. What I found

interesting that his worse, IMO was his adipic. Reference range is 0-12, he

was 642. The interpretation said may be due to fatty acid oxidation

disorders and recommended L-carnitine 500-1000 mg per day. Which I need to

work in yet. He also showed elevated hippuric acid, which states from

gastrointestinal bacteria. So I've been doing biocidin from Brainchild

hopefully hitting the yeast/bacteria issues. It also stated toluene may be

absorbed from outgassing of new carpets and other building materials, which

we just built a new house and moved in last September, previous house was

new also when he was 18 months. This one we built, cleaned and cleaned, cut

down on carpet, infloor heat, air exchanger etc. Todays new houses are so

tight, toxins there are a concern.

The house we moved into when he was 18 months, we had a terrible first

winter here in Wisconsin. That house was so poorly constructed, cleaned,

god only knows what it looked like under the carpeting. They didn't clean

up when doing anything, under the hot tub, the duct work, the dishwasher

area and " inside " down in the cabinets, just very poor cleaning practices.

This one we built, so not the case and we've had our best healthy year yet.

I'm so glad those trips in do the doctors office are gone!!!

Tammy

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