Guest guest Posted March 24, 1999 Report Share Posted March 24, 1999 As for your thoughts on my criticism of the Defib-sandwich commercial... > I find it somewhat degrading but no more than the > poor Cubans in Florida who were affended by " Yo quiero Taco Bell " > I LOVE that dog! Remember where I am? (NW) Tampa... and all the Cubans I know love the dog and commercial too. > I speak Spanish and have many Hispanic friends who > find the commercial quite humorous and laughable. Most of my neighbors are also proud that their native tongue is represented in mainstream TV spots. We often only hear the protests of the activists. > ..I think that the obnoxious ad > actually might cause a little interest in defibs... Bravo for anything that does that... however, I still find it revolting, if not insulting. But... as I said in my treatise... my feeling may be a bit of over reacting... just my personal (activism) feelings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 1999 Report Share Posted March 24, 1999 Has anyone thought to try propranolol ( Inderal) on your dad? It seems to be the all purpose anti-arrhythmic. I was having trouble like your dad is having until they hit me with a massive dose of propranolol and supressive pacing. (They paced me so fast that the arrhythmia couldn't come in.) Propranolol is much less specialized than other beta blockers. It is a class III beta- blocker so it blocks all the adrenaline receptors in your body, not just the ones in your heart. I don't know your dad's case, but I've seen the cardiologists use it to attack a lot of really tough rhythms, so it might be worth a mention. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 1999 Report Share Posted March 24, 1999 The first time I saw that commercial, my thoughts were " I hope my dad never sees this. " It makes me uncomfortable to watch it--and hopefully they don't show it on ESPN so my dad won't have to see it. I've seen enough " shocks " to last me and everyone else a life time!! On another note, the rep from Medtronic came up from Albuquerque last week & reset my dad's ICD--the other one & this new one were set to try to pace him out of the v-tach & if it didn't work it hit with 30 jueles. Now, since that appears to NOT work they have changed it to deliver 5 then 10 and if necessary 30. And, of course, being the overachiever that he is he has already tried it out several times. The first night he got shocks 15 minutes apart which I presume were both at 5. Do you know if that is a correct assumption? Also, the cardiologist said for him to take an ativan when he felt the " cold rush " . Does anyone do anything similar? Also, my dad is back up to 600 mg of cordarone AND Mexilitine 150 4X a day. He is having to go in for blood test every week--for potassium, magnesium, & something else to do with the toxicity thing. Has anyone ever been on that dosage of cordarone for an extended period of time & if so--how long before toxicity? Thanks for your help!!! Poppy Re: The ZAPPER >As for your thoughts on my criticism of the Defib-sandwich commercial... > >> I find it somewhat degrading but no more than the >> poor Cubans in Florida who were affended by " Yo quiero Taco Bell " >> I LOVE that dog! > > Remember where I am? (NW) Tampa... and all the Cubans I know love the dog and commercial too. > >> I speak Spanish and have many Hispanic friends who >> find the commercial quite humorous and laughable. > > Most of my neighbors are also proud that their native tongue is represented in mainstream TV spots. We often only hear the protests of the activists. > >> ..I think that the obnoxious ad >> actually might cause a little interest in defibs... > > Bravo for anything that does that... however, I still find it revolting, >if not insulting. But... as I said in my treatise... my feeling may be a >bit of over reacting... just my personal (activism) feelings. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroups Spotlight: > " Astrophysics Forum " - All about astrophysics. >http://offers./click/243/5 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 1999 Report Share Posted March 24, 1999 Poppy -- Sounds like your Dad is having a really rough time of it. I've been zapped before but not nearly that many times, and I'm only on 200 mg. a day of Cordarone which seems to be holding me (no toxicity so far & no zaps). I've been on it for 9 months I just wanted you to know that you and your Dad are in my thoughts--hope things " mellow out " soon. Anita in NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Dear AW, I purchased our "Zapper" from the supplier below. Sharon The charge for "The Zapper" is $45.00 for the unit, $6.00 S & H, and insurance if required is $1.00 extra. An International Money Order [NOT a domestic Money Order] Forward Payment to: Vytas Sinkevicius 1406 Parkinson Road Kelowna, British Columbia Canada V1Z 3M6 Have any Questions contact: Colleen Layton colleen@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Thanks for the information. A. magena25 <magena25@...> wrote: Dear AW, I purchased our "Zapper" from the supplier below. Sharon The charge for "The Zapper" is $45.00 for the unit, $6.00 S & H, and insurance if required is $1.00 extra. An International Money Order [NOT a domestic Money Order] Forward Payment to: Vytas Sinkevicius 1406 Parkinson Road Kelowna, British Columbia Canada V1Z 3M6 Have any Questions contact: Colleen Layton colleen@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Info about the Zapper can be found here:<br><br><a href=http://www.sotainstruments.com/zapper/ target=new>http://www.sotainstruments.com/zapper/</a><br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Info about the Zapper can be found here:<br><br><a href=http://www.sotainstruments.com/zapper/ target=new>http://www.sotainstruments.com/zapper/</a><br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 I would like to quickly add that I do not make or sell zappers. I haven't started using mine yet (waiting for some parts) and I didn't order it from the previously posted web site. A friend is making me one. I just wonder if anyone here has used one.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 I would like to quickly add that I do not make or sell zappers. I haven't started using mine yet (waiting for some parts) and I didn't order it from the previously posted web site. A friend is making me one. I just wonder if anyone here has used one.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Hello everyone...lost the addy for the Zapper can anyone send it to me moonfairie2001@... thankyou and ill be back to post soon just started the peg intron 2nd time to be treated and am not doing so hot..i liked the one question i read is decaff coffee o.k.?????be well my friends Felisha....*A*K*A* Moon...thankyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Hello everyone...lost the addy for the Zapper can anyone send it to me moonfairie2001@... thankyou and ill be back to post soon just started the peg intron 2nd time to be treated and am not doing so hot..i liked the one question i read is decaff coffee o.k.?????be well my friends Felisha....*A*K*A* Moon...thankyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Hi Cody and Freisha<br>Decaff should be ok, my Doc even said nonalky beer was ok. <br>rich <br>9 more shots to go ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 Hi Cody and Freisha<br>Decaff should be ok, my Doc even said nonalky beer was ok. <br>rich <br>9 more shots to go ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 What in the world is that?? I went to the wesite and I still don't understand. It looks like a tens unit. What is it supposed to do? I am leary. It looks like a middle ages torcher device. lol<br>My opinoin ( for what it's worth) is be very careful about NEW Devices... There are alot of con-artisits out there to pray of the sick and the frightened. The only thing that it might take away is your money and give you a false sense of health. As the Hep C eats away at your body.<br>Just a little caution from me. If anyone can give me any documented information about this I would be intrested.<br>God bless everyone.<br> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2001 Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 What in the world is that?? I went to the wesite and I still don't understand. It looks like a tens unit. What is it supposed to do? I am leary. It looks like a middle ages torcher device. lol<br>My opinoin ( for what it's worth) is be very careful about NEW Devices... There are alot of con-artisits out there to pray of the sick and the frightened. The only thing that it might take away is your money and give you a false sense of health. As the Hep C eats away at your body.<br>Just a little caution from me. If anyone can give me any documented information about this I would be intrested.<br>God bless everyone.<br> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 I looked at their website also. I hate to say it, but thoughts of scam and con artist come to my mind. I really don't believe an electrical field of a specific frequency can remove viruses from our bodies. If this were so, why wouldn't we already be using these devices to get rid of the flu and the common cold? My advice is to save your money and stick to scientific treatments that at least have gone through legitimate clinical trials. While I am open to testing any potential cures, this just does not ring true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 I looked at their website also. I hate to say it, but thoughts of scam and con artist come to my mind. I really don't believe an electrical field of a specific frequency can remove viruses from our bodies. If this were so, why wouldn't we already be using these devices to get rid of the flu and the common cold? My advice is to save your money and stick to scientific treatments that at least have gone through legitimate clinical trials. While I am open to testing any potential cures, this just does not ring true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Well, what " would " the pharmaceutical companies do if what costs $10 to make actually does zap viri? The US post office is using it to zap anthrax.<br><br>Considering that the medicines available now cure no more people than using nothing but cost a small fortune and provide a lot of people with very painful side effects, you do the math. The " last " thing these firms want is a cheap, painless cure as that isn't very good for the cash flow.<br><br>I will use the Zapper as soon as I get the parts I need to complete the one a friend of mine made for me for free and I pass on drugs that seem only to make you feel like shit for a year and have no guarantee of cure.<br><br>I will do blood tests before using the Zapper and six months down the line and let you all know how it goes.<br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Well, what " would " the pharmaceutical companies do if what costs $10 to make actually does zap viri? The US post office is using it to zap anthrax.<br><br>Considering that the medicines available now cure no more people than using nothing but cost a small fortune and provide a lot of people with very painful side effects, you do the math. The " last " thing these firms want is a cheap, painless cure as that isn't very good for the cash flow.<br><br>I will use the Zapper as soon as I get the parts I need to complete the one a friend of mine made for me for free and I pass on drugs that seem only to make you feel like shit for a year and have no guarantee of cure.<br><br>I will do blood tests before using the Zapper and six months down the line and let you all know how it goes.<br><br>Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Hi Cody, In response to your query if anyone has used a zapper--I did before I knew I had HCV. It got rid of my migraines. I cannot say it got rid of my HCV because I still have it. Anytime my migraines rear their ugly head, it reminds me that I haven't used it in awhile. I (my husband) built our own zapper for just a few dollars. It isn't as fancy as the website cited for thet $83 jobber-but it still works the same. You can find the instructions in the book " The Cure For All Diseases. " Let me know if you have any questions. I hope I'll be able to answer them.<br>Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Hi Cody, In response to your query if anyone has used a zapper--I did before I knew I had HCV. It got rid of my migraines. I cannot say it got rid of my HCV because I still have it. Anytime my migraines rear their ugly head, it reminds me that I haven't used it in awhile. I (my husband) built our own zapper for just a few dollars. It isn't as fancy as the website cited for thet $83 jobber-but it still works the same. You can find the instructions in the book " The Cure For All Diseases. " Let me know if you have any questions. I hope I'll be able to answer them.<br>Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Dear Katharina, In my opinion the Zapper is a great device that does the job and if you don't believe me just ask my wife. Sincerely, Re: [ ] Re: The Liver Cleanse Products, Zapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dear , I don't think the question was whether the zapper is a good device. Rather, it is a technical question, what might have caused the woman Katharina mentioned to develop a hematoma when she used it? We do need to keep open on these issues as they will come up repeatedly. Zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dear , I have to answer you to somehow explain what I was posting. It must have arrived with you like attacking? Or you must have felt hurt somehow by the question. I did by no means intend to doubt or question your or the zapper method. What I try to learn is: what are the conditions to be followed while using it so there is no hematoma? All I want to do is help my friend to avoid in future such an outcome. I simply cannot help her avoiding undesired consequences without someone else giving me the odds I have to tell her. As she is very dear to my heart, I was so concerned about what had happened to her and about her anxiety she experienced. As I said, I am totally inexperienced with the zapper. When she confronted me with what had happened to her, I immediately said:" I have no cue how to handle this, but I know people who will be able to answer the question. I will present the problem to them and hear what they are telling us." So please, may I ask you again for your opinion, or maybe your wife might tell us what she is considering to be the rules to follow? Thank you in advance, friendly regards, Katharina P.S. Please, know that I am not a native English speaking person. I have been struggling for a long time, to understand and to make myself understood. Someday I might reach the top of the hill......so God give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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