Re: exercise and hyperactivity

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A few thoughts -- you've probably tried some of these but I know first hand with

that screeching it can be hard to think.

The only thought I have an the exersize is low blood sugar?

How are his minerals? -- zinc, chromium, molybenum all get used up pretty

quickly at different time, stress, virus etc.

How about adding Yeast Aid (Kirkmans) sometimes I give DS 4 caps 2 x per day.

Can you do all the diflucan at once, like a.m. for a bigger punch, give strong

probiotics later in the day, and natural antifungals/antibacterials late in the

day or add enzymes like Candex or Candidase (away from the probiotics.)

I know, it seems like I'm chasing them with pills all day.

Take care.

>

> Hi Everyone.

>

> I'm going a little crazy with my son. I cannot seem to control his yeast.

Eating *anything* seems to make him hyper. But even worse is exercise. If he

goes out to the park or for a walk, he gets so freaking crazy when he gets back

that he's unbearable. He's LOUD (the vocal stim becomes a shriek that is so loud

and so high pitched that my eardrums throb. And it becomes way more frequent -

several times per minute), chews on everything, and is just into everything. He

hangs upside down, he's rammy, etc.

>

> Any idea what the exercise could be stirring up? Sometimes no-fenol enzymes

work on it. Like tonight, he was off the wall and my husband gave him a couple

of no-fenols to chew. Within 10 minutes, he calmed right down. His stomach

wasn't empty. He'd just eaten supper (homemade gluten-free pizza dough with

" cream " sauce and Daiya cheese sub).

>

> The yeast protocol is 200mg Diflucan twice a day, sometimes with 100mg

midafternoon if he's going loopy. And 2500mg biotin twice a day.

>

>

>

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> I'm going a little crazy with my son. I cannot seem to control his yeast.

Eating *anything* seems to make him hyper.

Yeast is not the only thing that causes hyper. Phenols cause hyper also

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>>But even worse is exercise. If he goes out to the park or for a walk, he gets

so freaking crazy when he gets back that he's unbearable.

Try giving taurine and/or OLE. He might have a grass allergy.

> Any idea what the exercise could be stirring up? Sometimes no-fenol enzymes

work on it. Like tonight, he was off the wall and my husband gave him a couple

of no-fenols to chew. Within 10 minutes, he calmed right down.

This might be an indicator of phenol issues. Do you give him No-Fenol with

every meal and snack?

> The yeast protocol is 200mg Diflucan twice a day, sometimes with 100mg

midafternoon if he's going loopy. And 2500mg biotin twice a day.

Try increasing the biotin. My son at one point required 20mg 3x per day.

Dana

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>

>> I'm going a little crazy with my son. I cannot seem to control his yeast.

Eating *anything* seems to make him hyper.

>

>

>Yeast is not the only thing that causes hyper. Phenols cause hyper also

>

>http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Yes, and he definitely has a phenol problem. We've had him off high phenol foods

for months and months.

>>>But even worse is exercise. If he goes out to the park or for a walk, he gets

so freaking crazy when he gets back that he's unbearable.

>

>

>Try giving taurine and/or OLE. He might have a grass allergy.

Okay. Can do. It wouldn't surprise me. I have a grass allergy. I'll do taurine

first. He's supposed to take that anyway, and I haven't gotten it into him yet.

>> Any idea what the exercise could be stirring up? Sometimes no-fenol enzymes

work on it. Like tonight, he was off the wall and my husband gave him a couple

of no-fenols to chew. Within 10 minutes, he calmed right down.

>

>

>This might be an indicator of phenol issues. Do you give him No-Fenol with

every meal and snack?

No, only with fruit and/or veggies. But I can do.

>> The yeast protocol is 200mg Diflucan twice a day, sometimes with 100mg

midafternoon if he's going loopy. And 2500mg biotin twice a day. >

>

>Try increasing the biotin. My son at one point required 20mg 3x per day.

I'm already at 100 times that! But I can add another dose midday. Thanks for

your help, Dana.

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Time: 2010-12-19, 05:16:28

Subject: Re: exercise and hyperactivity

>A few thoughts -- you've probably tried some of these but I know first hand

with that screeching it can be hard to think.

>The only thought I have an the exersize is low blood sugar?

Not a bad idea, but he's hyper and happy. He's not miserable or tired. I've

tried feeding him too, and it doesn't help. Maybe I should get a kit and test

him.

>How are his minerals? -- zinc, chromium, molybenum all get used up pretty

quickly at different time, stress, virus etc.

Haven't been checked lately. But we can check it out in the new year.

>How about adding Yeast Aid (Kirkmans) sometimes I give DS 4 caps 2 x per day.

There's something in it he's allergic to. I forget what, if we even figured it

out.

>Can you do all the diflucan at once, like a.m. for a bigger punch,

We started that way, but it wore off by 3pm.

give strong probiotics later in the day,

Yup, doing it already.

and natural antifungals/antibacterials late in the day or add enzymes like

Candex or Candidase (away from the probiotics.)

Enzymes. Yes. I'm going to add them. For sure. Thanks.

>I know, it seems like I'm chasing them with pills all day.

>Take care.

Heh. Yeah, syringes full of stuff here.

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> >This might be an indicator of phenol issues. Do you give him No-Fenol with

every meal and snack?

> No, only with fruit and/or veggies. But I can do.

Try giving it with everything he eats. That is what my son required.

> >Try increasing the biotin. My son at one point required 20mg 3x per day.

>

> I'm already at 100 times that! But I can add another dose midday.

The most I have seen biotin is 5mg capsules. When I was giving 20mg 3x per day,

that was four 5mg capsules 3x per day. You are giving 100 capsules? If not,

check the dose. Did you mean mcg instead of mg? If so, divide by 1000. For

example, if you are giving 2500mcg, that means 2-1/2 mg. I was giving 20mg per

dose.

Always be careful of your dosing.

Dana

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Freeda and Thorne sell biotin in 10 mg tablets/capsules.

Karla

> > >This might be an indicator of phenol issues. Do you give him No-Fenol with

every meal and snack?

> > No, only with fruit and/or veggies. But I can do.

>

>

> Try giving it with everything he eats. That is what my son required.

>

>

> > >Try increasing the biotin. My son at one point required 20mg 3x per day.

> >

> > I'm already at 100 times that! But I can add another dose midday.

>

>

> The most I have seen biotin is 5mg capsules. When I was giving 20mg 3x per

day, that was four 5mg capsules 3x per day. You are giving 100 capsules? If

not, check the dose. Did you mean mcg instead of mg? If so, divide by 1000.

For example, if you are giving 2500mcg, that means 2-1/2 mg. I was giving 20mg

per dose.

>

> Always be careful of your dosing.

>

> Dana

>

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Oh yikes, I know what you're dealing with. The hyper behavior you're describing

is enough to send a parent over the edge!

That's a pretty healthy dose of diflucan. Only thing I could suggest is

considering that maybe his strain of yeast needs a different yeast fighter. We

tend to mix them up, and some work better at different times than others. We've

used oil of oregano, grapefruit seed extract, capryllic acid, nystatin, lots of

probiotics, etc.

The other thing I might add is that sometimes we thought my son had uncontrolled

yeast (because of his behaviors) but it was actually out of control bacteria.

Usually, bacteria corresponds with mean, aggressive behavior, but my son would

act yeasty, but then his tests would come back high for bacteria. We used a lot

of vanco for that, but over-the-counter stuff we've used is olive leaf extract

and others I can't remember right now.

All the best!

Sara

>

> Hi Everyone.

>

> I'm going a little crazy with my son. I cannot seem to control his yeast.

Eating *anything* seems to make him hyper. But even worse is exercise. If he

goes out to the park or for a walk, he gets so freaking crazy when he gets back

that he's unbearable. He's LOUD (the vocal stim becomes a shriek that is so loud

and so high pitched that my eardrums throb. And it becomes way more frequent -

several times per minute), chews on everything, and is just into everything. He

hangs upside down, he's rammy, etc.

>

> Any idea what the exercise could be stirring up? Sometimes no-fenol enzymes

work on it. Like tonight, he was off the wall and my husband gave him a couple

of no-fenols to chew. Within 10 minutes, he calmed right down. His stomach

wasn't empty. He'd just eaten supper (homemade gluten-free pizza dough with

" cream " sauce and Daiya cheese sub).

>

> The yeast protocol is 200mg Diflucan twice a day, sometimes with 100mg

midafternoon if he's going loopy. And 2500mg biotin twice a day.

>

>

>

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Hi danasview

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From: danasview

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Time: 2010-12-19, 17:28:38

Subject: Re: exercise and hyperactivity

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>> >This might be an indicator of phenol issues. Do you give him No-Fenol with

every meal and snack?

>> No, only with fruit and/or veggies. But I can do.

>

>

>Try giving it with everything he eats. That is what my son required.

Yup, started that this weekend. Thanks.

>

>> >Try increasing the biotin. My son at one point required 20mg 3x per day.

>>

>> I'm already at 100 times that! But I can add another dose midday.

>

>

>The most I have seen biotin is 5mg capsules. When I was giving 20mg 3x per

day, that was four 5mg capsules 3x per day. You are giving 100 capsules? If

not, check the dose. Did you mean mcg instead of mg? If so, divide by 1000.

For example, if you are giving 2500mcg, that means 2-1/2 mg. I was giving 20mg

per dose.

>

>Always be careful of your dosing.

Ay caramba. I broke my foot have had my husband buying everything. I trusted him

when he said they were 5000mg. You are correct, they are mcg. Sheesh. That'll

teach me. I have seen them in 20mg capsules though. I'll have to get him to get

those.

Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't have noticed for another 3 weeks or so.