Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't see why you would need to do a supplements fast or rotate on Bee's program. You're only taking: Vit A (halibut or shark liver oil), Vit B complex, Naicin, Vit C w/ baking soda and C w/ flavs, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E, Sea salt, Calcium, Magnesium, Butter, Coconut Oil and Chlorophyll. All of these are necessary nutrients to the body anyway. All she recommends are the highest and most utilizable form of each. It's like taking a REALLY good multivitamin, without all the extra crap or bad forms of vitamins. Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow dung, or goat feathers. And when you can tolerate these, she only recommnends taking ONE antifungal... oregano oil or garlic. The supplements on this plan are very common-sense and reasonable price- wise, and believe you me, I don't have much money right now either! It's very easy to convince yourself of anything, when the truth might be otherwise. Just a thought! Doug > formulas, or I do a supplement fast for reasons (recommendations,logic, & > money savings) that convinced me that was the proper way to take > supplements. That may be something I shouldn't worry about. Old habits > are hard to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Doug, I actually don't use feathers, bark, dung, etc. I rotate between B-50 and B-100, between niacin and folate, between one brand of cal/mag and another, between garlic and nothing, between one probiotic and another, etc. If you closely read Bee's recommendations she does recommend a periodic and temporary rest period. It is also a good way to judge your improvement, give your body a rest, and assess the quality of supplements you are using. I could give numerous examples of inert supplements. An example would be that I discovered the Kal niacin I was using wasn't giving me a flush. It wasn't time release or a no-flush niacin. It was the same Kal niacin I normally used and it had always given me a flush before. I will not buy the Kal niacin again. I am currently using Kal folate. The Kal niacin must have been a bad batch. I started using Twin Labs niacin and the flush returned. I also know what my financial situation is. You don't!!! > > I don't see why you would need to do a supplements fast or rotate on > Bee's program. You're only taking: Vit A (halibut or shark liver > oil), Vit B complex, Naicin, Vit C w/ baking soda and C w/ flavs, Cod > liver oil, Vitamin E, Sea salt, Calcium, Magnesium, Butter, Coconut Oil > and Chlorophyll. All of these are necessary nutrients to the body > anyway. All she recommends are the highest and most utilizable form of > each. It's like taking a REALLY good multivitamin, without all the > extra crap or bad forms of vitamins. > > Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow > dung, or goat feathers. And when you can tolerate these, she only > recommnends taking ONE antifungal... oregano oil or garlic. The > supplements on this plan are very common-sense and reasonable price- > wise, and believe you me, I don't have much money right now either! > It's very easy to convince yourself of anything, when the truth might > be otherwise. Just a thought! > > Doug > > > formulas, or I do a supplement fast for reasons > (recommendations,logic, & > > money savings) that convinced me that was the proper way to take > > supplements. That may be something I shouldn't worry about. Old > habits > > are hard to break. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thanks for the giggle Doug! Your comment on cow dung, cracked me up! " ) > > ...Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow > dung, or goat feathers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi , I have had similar experiences with " off " supplements. When I take my " break " from supplements I usually feel worse, but one time I felt better. I rechecked all my supplements, and realized one had gluten in it. Boy did that suck. It was awhile ago, but since then I have been much more careful about reading labels and calling companies. But I agree taking a break once in awhile can be a good way to monitor progress. " ) Jecca --- " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2@...> wrote: > > ...I rotate between B-50 and B-100, between niacin and folate, between one brand of cal/mag and another, between garlic and nothing, between one probiotic and another, etc. If you closely read Bee's recommendations she does recommend a periodic and temporary rest period. It is also a good way to judge your improvement, give your body a rest, and assess the quality of supplements you are using... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Doug, I meant to say I don't use " pine bark " , although the inner bark does have medicinal properties. The Pau D' Arco(pda), a recommended antifungal supplement, is made from the inner bark(active antifungal property). I have used it for several months but I am now using just the raw garlic(tuber/root) and co with food preperation. I have an unopened bottle of pda I will use in the near future. The first enema I did several days ago had Pau D' Arco(bark), garlic, and a few other ingredients I have experience with, one of which was also a root. In Bee's files white willow bark(anti-inflammatory) is mentioned. I have a very lengthy and intimate experience/knowledge with/of herbs. > > > > I don't see why you would need to do a supplements fast or rotate > on > > Bee's program. You're only taking: Vit A (halibut or shark liver > > oil), Vit B complex, Naicin, Vit C w/ baking soda and C w/ flavs, > Cod > > liver oil, Vitamin E, Sea salt, Calcium, Magnesium, Butter, Coconut > Oil > > and Chlorophyll. All of these are necessary nutrients to the body > > anyway. All she recommends are the highest and most utilizable > form of > > each. It's like taking a REALLY good multivitamin, without all the > > extra crap or bad forms of vitamins. > > > > Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow > > dung, or goat feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Doug, I meant to say I don't use " pine bark " , although the inner bark does have medicinal properties. The Pau D' Arco(pda), a recommended antifungal supplement, is made from the inner bark(active antifungal property). I have used it for several months but I am now using just the raw garlic(tuber/root) and co with food preperation. I have an unopened bottle of pda I will use in the near future. The first enema I did several days ago had Pau D' Arco(bark), garlic, and a few other ingredients I have experience with, one of which was also a root. In Bee's files white willow bark(anti-inflammatory) is mentioned. I have a very lengthy and intimate experience/knowledge with/of herbs. > > > > I don't see why you would need to do a supplements fast or rotate > on > > Bee's program. You're only taking: Vit A (halibut or shark liver > > oil), Vit B complex, Naicin, Vit C w/ baking soda and C w/ flavs, > Cod > > liver oil, Vitamin E, Sea salt, Calcium, Magnesium, Butter, Coconut > Oil > > and Chlorophyll. All of these are necessary nutrients to the body > > anyway. All she recommends are the highest and most utilizable > form of > > each. It's like taking a REALLY good multivitamin, without all the > > extra crap or bad forms of vitamins. > > > > Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow > > dung, or goat feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 My point was that one's body always requires the same vitamins/nutrients. Your post shows quite a bit of expertise and knowledge with the files that I don't have yet. But the basic vitamins, I would imagine, are a requirement almost constantly. If one decided to stop taking calcium (for financial or any other reason) it would mess up the magnesium balance, etc... Maybe I'm wrong, but the basics of the plan, from what I've read, are to be followed all the time. I could see if having been on the plan for an extended period and having added the antifungals/probiotics, of course it would be beneficial at times to stop them (as well as coconut oil) for a few days to measure your progress. But the antifungals and probiotics are different than the vitamins/minerals from what I gather. One can rotate antifungals, probiotics, etc... but not the vitamins. (Unless rotating brands only, but still maintaining the plan). Ones finances has nothing to do with what one's body requires in way of vitamins/minerals. Also, I did not mean to imply that you take pinebark, goat feathers, etc... I was saying that Bee's guidelines are very basic, compared to all other candida diets/supplements I've seen. I'm amazed that in the beginning of the plan, I'm only taking about 10-12 pills per day, along with seasalt, cod liver oil and chlorophyll. If anything, it seems like too little to me, instead of too much. Sorry to offend. Doug > > Doug, > > I actually don't use feathers, bark, dung, etc. I rotate between B-50 > and B-100, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 My point was that one's body always requires the same vitamins/nutrients. Your post shows quite a bit of expertise and knowledge with the files that I don't have yet. But the basic vitamins, I would imagine, are a requirement almost constantly. If one decided to stop taking calcium (for financial or any other reason) it would mess up the magnesium balance, etc... Maybe I'm wrong, but the basics of the plan, from what I've read, are to be followed all the time. I could see if having been on the plan for an extended period and having added the antifungals/probiotics, of course it would be beneficial at times to stop them (as well as coconut oil) for a few days to measure your progress. But the antifungals and probiotics are different than the vitamins/minerals from what I gather. One can rotate antifungals, probiotics, etc... but not the vitamins. (Unless rotating brands only, but still maintaining the plan). Ones finances has nothing to do with what one's body requires in way of vitamins/minerals. Also, I did not mean to imply that you take pinebark, goat feathers, etc... I was saying that Bee's guidelines are very basic, compared to all other candida diets/supplements I've seen. I'm amazed that in the beginning of the plan, I'm only taking about 10-12 pills per day, along with seasalt, cod liver oil and chlorophyll. If anything, it seems like too little to me, instead of too much. Sorry to offend. Doug > > Doug, > > I actually don't use feathers, bark, dung, etc. I rotate between B-50 > and B-100, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 > > When I cheat more often than I can get away with I take 3 capsules of > cascara sagrada bark(herbal laxative) and a cranberry extract capsule > with a large glass of water. Once I eliminate the bad foods(cheat) > from my digestive system I feel much better. Does anyone know if > infrequent use is ok? I believe I have read that Bee doesn't approve > of cascara. ==>, you should only use cascara sparingly, if at all, and cranberry extract won't help your candida because it contains too much sugar. It is much better if you would do the things recommended in the article " How to Detoxify Effectively " in the " Candida Symptoms, Help For " Folder, OR when you are desperate follow the recommendations in the article " Die-Off Symptoms, Help For " found in the same folder. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 , kidney stones are mainly caused by a lack or, or imbalances in minerals, particularly phosphorus, calcium, and magnesium. Soft drinks are a big culprit because they are so high in phosphorus, and also antiacid medicines usually contain calcium but no magnesium. If you take all of the supplements I recommend you shouldn't get kidney stones. The best, Bee > > Thanks Jecca. I have already started the enemas and plan on using them > whether I cheat or not. I also take calcium/magnesium daily when not > rotating. Years ago I would do the vitamin C flush but I found they > were unpredictable and the high doses of C irritated my urinary tract. > I am also concerned about kidney/bladder crystals/stones. I plan on > using the C-flush when I am sure I will not be in a situation that > prevents me from having a place to go, but I also want to avoid > frequent use of the C-flush. If I don't routinely cheat and use the C- > flush I probably won't need to worry about the stones. I just ran out > of the C but I do normally take it when I have it. Some of the > recommended supplements I use are rotated when I refill the supplements > I am out of. Example: I normally take a B-complex but I rotate between > extra niacin or folate. I also rotate brands, potencies, and/or > formulas, or I do a supplement fast for reasons (recommendations,logic, & > money savings) that convinced me that was the proper way to take > supplements. That may be something I shouldn't worry about. Old habits > are hard to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 , kidney stones are mainly caused by a lack or, or imbalances in minerals, particularly phosphorus, calcium, and magnesium. Soft drinks are a big culprit because they are so high in phosphorus, and also antiacid medicines usually contain calcium but no magnesium. If you take all of the supplements I recommend you shouldn't get kidney stones. The best, Bee > > Thanks Jecca. I have already started the enemas and plan on using them > whether I cheat or not. I also take calcium/magnesium daily when not > rotating. Years ago I would do the vitamin C flush but I found they > were unpredictable and the high doses of C irritated my urinary tract. > I am also concerned about kidney/bladder crystals/stones. I plan on > using the C-flush when I am sure I will not be in a situation that > prevents me from having a place to go, but I also want to avoid > frequent use of the C-flush. If I don't routinely cheat and use the C- > flush I probably won't need to worry about the stones. I just ran out > of the C but I do normally take it when I have it. Some of the > recommended supplements I use are rotated when I refill the supplements > I am out of. Example: I normally take a B-complex but I rotate between > extra niacin or folate. I also rotate brands, potencies, and/or > formulas, or I do a supplement fast for reasons (recommendations,logic, & > money savings) that convinced me that was the proper way to take > supplements. That may be something I shouldn't worry about. Old habits > are hard to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 > > I don't see why you would need to do a supplements fast or rotate on Bee's program. You're only taking: Vit A (halibut or shark liver oil), Vit B complex, Naicin, Vit C w/ baking soda and C w/ flavs, Cod liver oil, Vitamin E, Sea salt, Calcium, Magnesium, Butter, Coconut Oil and Chlorophyll. All of these are necessary nutrients to the body anyway. All she recommends are the highest and most utilizable form of each. It's like taking a REALLY good multivitamin, without all the extra crap or bad forms of vitamins. > > Bee does not recommend any strange supplements... ie pine bark, cow > dung, or goat feathers. ==>Wow, Doug. That's great! Actually maybe I should recommend goat feathers to " tickle people " since laughter is the best medicine!! LOL! Lotsa hugs, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 > > Doug, I actually don't use feathers, bark, dung, etc. I rotate between B-50 and B-100, between niacin and folate, between one brand of cal/mag and another, between garlic and nothing, between one probiotic and another, etc. If you closely read Bee's recommendations she does recommend a periodic and temporary rest period. It is also a good way to judge your improvement, give your body a rest, and assess the quality of supplements you are using. I could give numerous examples of inert supplements. ==>, it is good to not take any supplements at least one day a month, but not longer than one day at a time. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 If you are giving your child good enzymes with every meal and snack you might be able to go off the diet. Remember that all kids are different though. And you can always go back on the diet if need be. Hope this helps, Rhonda in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 > His is a viral autism. (Also has OCD that has been kept in check > since viral protocol) Autistic traits kicked in severely after a > bout of chicken pox at age 2.75. Have you given lysine? My son was a high viral kid, and needed OLE, vitamin C, and lysine to eliminate the viruses. > We haven't managed to get a good hold of his chronic sinus problems > or his asthma---so I am nervous about the milk products. Milk can increase those issues. So can yeast overgrowth. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Grrrrrrrrrrr... I just did a long reply and lost connection after hitting the " post " button. I'm not advocating cheating often at all. Much of what I write is probably contradictory. To sum up, I'm too chicken to cheat often (I'm talking major sugary/flour cheats). I went 3 months with no cheats whatsoever. In almost 5 months, my only sugary cheats have been a small serving of pudding & small blonde brownie at a big family gathering last month and the small piece of chocolate at work yesterday. That's it. I'm not tempted with such cheats at home. I have a 1/2 gallon of ice cream sitting in the deep freeze, and will not open it for a LONG time. I think the best policy for me is to limit cheats to family gatherings or special nights out at a restaurant, and NEVER do them at home. There isn't hardly anything in my house to cheat with, even if I wanted to. I'm saving the ice cream and a 14 year old mason quart jar of Tennessee Peach Moonshine in case WWIII breaks out. That being said, I remember people posting on here that after more than a year on the diet, or even after they are cured, they can't eat anything with sugar, because their body has adjusted to this diet... and they get sick or nauseous. I would like to eat sugary stuff just often enough so that I can eat it on special occasions in the future. Sorry to sound like I'm advocating cheating as a good thing. I just think it might be necessary on rare occasions, and then could be used as a gauge of your progress on the diet. (That's how Bee discovered she was cured). Doug > > > Doug, > Why would cheating keep our bodies from rejecting a food in the > future? It sounds like you are advising people to cheat and that it is > a good idea. The two paragraphs above are contradictory. When I cheat > I always am sorry. After 9 months, I am still trying to figure out > what is okay for me even with the foods Bee says are okay. Maybe I am > just more sensitive. > Thanks, Ellen " -) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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