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We took tour of emory walden. It looks like a very nice program. But

the problem is they don't follow GFCF diet and they don't accept

outside snacks except lunch. Which makes it hard to follow GFCF. Is

GFCF a must with BioMedical treatment?

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P.A. at Dr. Jeff Bradstreet's office is great. They also have a new doc, Dr. Rossignol. Their whole practice is dedicated to biomedical interventions in autism. Do yourself a favor, go to Melbourne, FL once a year and do the consults via phone. It will be worth it and you will save all the time of trying different local options. Take it from someone who's been there, done that.

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Elissavery complicated questions.  we went to a DAN that was a retired peds and now does DAN and allergy specialties so we had to pay up front but were reimbursed about 1/3rd of the cost.  We did not need a referral and it was a PPO - dont remember witch one as we have changed jobs and things since then.  my biggest help would be to find a DAN that is also a real doctor not just a nutrients etc...   if you find some in your area post the names and see if anyone has personal experience and can steer you to or from any one.good luckGretaOn Sep 20, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Elissa Mercado wrote:I want to get Jennah to a DAN doctor to have all of her levels tested, to see exactly what we are dealing with and what supplements/enzymes/detox she needs. For those of you who go to a DAN doctor, does your insurance pay for it? What diagnosis does your pediatrician use when submitting the referral? What insurance company do you have? Thanks!! Elissa Check out my myspacehttp://www.myspace.com/elissamercado Chat in 3Dhttp://imvu.com/catalog/web_invitation.php?userId=12957275 & from=power-email 

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Blue Cross PPO seems to cover a lot. We don't have that though, we

have a united healthcare PPO.

I think PPOs will often cover them as out of network providers, as

long as they are a licensed practitioner in your state. We do phone

consults with ours, I have yet to find out if my PPO will accept

bills for phone consults. We pay the DAN and then submit claims to

our insurance company.

Insurance has covered prescriptins written by the DAN.

Haven't gotten coverage for some of the labs that the DAN writes

because they have to be done by a specific lab, and usually the

insurance covered lab doesn't offer those kinds of specialized

tests. Regular CBCs, liver checks, some other bloodwork, and thyroid

panels, etc have been covered.

Good luck!

Jen

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> I want to get Jennah to a DAN doctor to have all of her levels

tested, to see exactly what we are dealing with and what

supplements/enzymes/detox she needs. For those of you who go to a DAN

doctor, does your insurance pay for it? What diagnosis does your

pediatrician use when submitting the referral? What insurance company

do you have?

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How do you think your child got the seizures? and do you think there

is permanent damage?

On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:55 PM, O'Sullivan wrote:

> would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional seizure

> doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so we are looking

> for alternatives. All they want to do is try one more seizure med

> (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which all they

> keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet

> is. Like we don't already know that. But some support or optimism

> would be nice.

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Most doctors are not capable of giving you any support.DAN! doctors are even

worse.They are quacks,and charlatans,who take advantage of desperate

parents,with worthless,debilitating treatments like chelation.Most have a vested

interest,in keeping the myth that vaccines cause autism alive,for their own

personal profit.

Any parent who takes their child to see a DAN! approved " doctor " ,needs to be

reported to the authorities for child abuse!

Kulp

> From: O'Sullivan <cindyosullivan@...>

> Subject: [ ] DAN Doctor

>

> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:55 PM

> would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> epilepsy?  or are we better off sticking with a traditional

> seizure doctor.  So far they are unable to help our son, so

> we are looking for alternatives.  All they want to do is

> try one more seizure med (this will be his third) and then

> do the ketogenic which all they keep telling us is how awful

> and unhealthy and difficult the diet is.  Like we don't

> already know that.  But some support or optimism would be

> nice.

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What type doctor are you going to? to help with seizures? Just

curious. My dd has frontal love seizures but they only spike at

night. During the day she seems OK, but at around 7PM she turns wild

and mean. She said her brain is on fire. She never gets tired. The

epileptologist wanted us to try B6 because a lot of the siezure meds

make her worse. May I ask what your using. Thank You. PS. I am a

newbie with a 9 y.o dd.

On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, and Kulp wrote:

> Most doctors are not capable of giving you any support.DAN! doctors

> are even worse.They are quacks,and charlatans,who take advantage of

> desperate parents,with worthless,debilitating treatments like

> chelation.Most have a vested interest,in keeping the myth that

> vaccines cause autism alive,for their own personal profit.

>

> Any parent who takes their child to see a DAN! approved

> " doctor " ,needs to be reported to the authorities for child abuse!

>

> Kulp

>

>

>

> > From: O'Sullivan <cindyosullivan@...>

> > Subject: [ ] DAN Doctor

> >

> > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:55 PM

> > would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> > epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional

> > seizure doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so

> > we are looking for alternatives. All they want to do is

> > try one more seizure med (this will be his third) and then

> > do the ketogenic which all they keep telling us is how awful

> > and unhealthy and difficult the diet is. Like we don't

> > already know that. But some support or optimism would be

> > nice.

>

>

>

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Hi i know how you feel My daughter is 28 with autism and epilepsy.  She

had brain surgery in september for her seizures that were uncontrolled No

doctors treat both they either treat one or the other.  Alot of seizure meds

made her autism worse.  So far I think the Dan Doctors only are interested in

proving vaccines cause autism.  That is not true with all cases of autism

especially my daughters.  If ou just want to talk sometime let me know joni

From: O'Sullivan <cindyosullivan@...>

Subject: [ ] DAN Doctor

Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 9:55 PM

would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has epilepsy?  or are we

better off sticking with a traditional seizure doctor.  So far they are unable

to help our son, so we are looking for alternatives.  All they want to do is try

one more seizure med (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which

all they keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet is. 

Like we don't already know that.  But some support or optimism would be nice.

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We have no idea why he is having seizures. he has had 3 MRIs, a

spinal tap, probably 100 blood tests, everything comes back normal.

He was a little low on zinc and maybe copper but just a point below

low normal and the doctors didn't feel that was anything to worry

about. It wasn't until recently we even knew he was having seizures,

then they put him on keppra and they have just gone crazy. From one

or two a month or week, to hundreds a day. He has failed 2 meds so

far. We chose to remove him from all meds for a few days which was

done in the hospital in case he had a bad seizure. Now we are just

waiting to see if he gets a bit better without anything. He had a

much better day today, but still had head drops but no where near the

frequency the past month. He has been off his meds since Tuesday

night so it has been 3 full days. Just keeping our fingers crossed

and trying to follow a low glycemic diet as best we can right now. We

are having great difficulty getting our doctors to support anything

besides meds or the Ketogenic. But we want to try the least evasive

and move up when necessary. The meds just seemed to be causing him

more harm than good. But I guess only time will tell. He used to be

able to walk unassisted (although he was very ataxic and would fall a

lot, with very poor balance and coordination) but now he can't even

walk unassisted. So we thought we would try to eliminate the only new

thing, which is the meds.

As for permanent damage, we have no idea. The doctors don't even know

what type of epilepsy he has. He has spiking all day and night in his

left temporal lobe. His right side is where we see any

twitching/seizure activity and his right side is the weakest and most

undcoordinated. He can't even feed himself anymore. The doctors

don't know if any damage is permanent but they haven't seen anything

on any of the MRIs so far. But I'm sure we will be doing another one

soon. Maybe if we ever get his seizures under control. Which right

now they are telling us there is only a 4% chance that meds will help

and only a 20% chance the keto diet will help at all.

>

> > would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> > epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional seizure

> > doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so we are looking

> > for alternatives. All they want to do is try one more seizure med

> > (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which all they

> > keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet

> > is. Like we don't already know that. But some support or optimism

> > would be nice.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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We have no idea why he is having seizures. he has had 3 MRIs, a

spinal tap, probably 100 blood tests, everything comes back normal.

He was a little low on zinc and maybe copper but just a point below

low normal and the doctors didn't feel that was anything to worry

about. It wasn't until recently we even knew he was having seizures,

then they put him on keppra and they have just gone crazy. From one

or two a month or week, to hundreds a day. He has failed 2 meds so

far. We chose to remove him from all meds for a few days which was

done in the hospital in case he had a bad seizure. Now we are just

waiting to see if he gets a bit better without anything. He had a

much better day today, but still had head drops but no where near the

frequency the past month. He has been off his meds since Tuesday

night so it has been 3 full days. Just keeping our fingers crossed

and trying to follow a low glycemic diet as best we can right now. We

are having great difficulty getting our doctors to support anything

besides meds or the Ketogenic. But we want to try the least evasive

and move up when necessary. The meds just seemed to be causing him

more harm than good. But I guess only time will tell. He used to be

able to walk unassisted (although he was very ataxic and would fall a

lot, with very poor balance and coordination) but now he can't even

walk unassisted. So we thought we would try to eliminate the only new

thing, which is the meds.

As for permanent damage, we have no idea. The doctors don't even know

what type of epilepsy he has. He has spiking all day and night in his

left temporal lobe. His right side is where we see any

twitching/seizure activity and his right side is the weakest and most

undcoordinated. He can't even feed himself anymore. The doctors

don't know if any damage is permanent but they haven't seen anything

on any of the MRIs so far. But I'm sure we will be doing another one

soon. Maybe if we ever get his seizures under control. Which right

now they are telling us there is only a 4% chance that meds will help

and only a 20% chance the keto diet will help at all.

>

> > would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> > epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional seizure

> > doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so we are looking

> > for alternatives. All they want to do is try one more seizure med

> > (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which all they

> > keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet

> > is. Like we don't already know that. But some support or optimism

> > would be nice.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Have you ever done a hair test. Sorry if I asked already

On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:37 PM, cindyosullivan wrote:

> We have no idea why he is having seizures. he has had 3 MRIs, a

> spinal tap, probably 100 blood tests, everything comes back normal.

> He was a little low on zinc and maybe copper but just a point below

> low normal and the doctors didn't feel that was anything to worry

> about. It wasn't until recently we even knew he was having seizures,

> then they put him on keppra and they have just gone crazy. From one

> or two a month or week, to hundreds a day. He has failed 2 meds so

> far. We chose to remove him from all meds for a few days which was

> done in the hospital in case he had a bad seizure. Now we are just

> waiting to see if he gets a bit better without anything. He had a

> much better day today, but still had head drops but no where near the

> frequency the past month. He has been off his meds since Tuesday

> night so it has been 3 full days. Just keeping our fingers crossed

> and trying to follow a low glycemic diet as best we can right now. We

> are having great difficulty getting our doctors to support anything

> besides meds or the Ketogenic. But we want to try the least evasive

> and move up when necessary. The meds just seemed to be causing him

> more harm than good. But I guess only time will tell. He used to be

> able to walk unassisted (although he was very ataxic and would fall a

> lot, with very poor balance and coordination) but now he can't even

> walk unassisted. So we thought we would try to eliminate the only new

> thing, which is the meds.

>

> As for permanent damage, we have no idea. The doctors don't even know

> what type of epilepsy he has. He has spiking all day and night in his

> left temporal lobe. His right side is where we see any

> twitching/seizure activity and his right side is the weakest and most

> undcoordinated. He can't even feed himself anymore. The doctors

> don't know if any damage is permanent but they haven't seen anything

> on any of the MRIs so far. But I'm sure we will be doing another one

> soon. Maybe if we ever get his seizures under control. Which right

> now they are telling us there is only a 4% chance that meds will help

> and only a 20% chance the keto diet will help at all.

>

>

> >

> > > would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> > > epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional seizure

> > > doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so we are looking

> > > for alternatives. All they want to do is try one more seizure med

> > > (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which all they

> > > keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet

> > > is. Like we don't already know that. But some support or optimism

> > > would be nice.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Seizures are very common in autism.I have a diagnosis of atypical autism/PDD.and

I have three different types of combined seizures,mostly petit mal,and

gelastic,without a tumor. The two usually happen together.

                                               

> would a DAN doctor take a patient without autism that has

> epilepsy? or are we better off sticking with a traditional seizure

> doctor. So far they are unable to help our son, so we are looking

> for alternatives. All they want to do is try one more seizure med

> (this will be his third) and then do the ketogenic which all they

> keep telling us is how awful and unhealthy and difficult the diet

> is. Like we don't already know that. But some support or optimism

> would be nice.

>

>

>

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How old is your daughter? In any EI programs? Any supplements? Not getting

proper food in her?

Tammy

[ ] DAN doctor

Hi,

I'm new to this group. My daughter has developmental delays, no other

diagnosis(seems no one wants to give her one). I have taken matters into my own

hands and started her on the specific carbohydrate diet. I also found a DAN

doctor, and we have our first appointment next week. I wanted to know if anyone

has any advice for this appointment...like what questions to ask, what to

expect?

Thanks,

Emerson

momma to 2 little girls

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Tammy,

My daughter is 2 years old. She is only taking probiotics right now because on

the SCD, you are supposed to introduce vitamins/supplements slowly. She is in

week 3 of the diet. She has been receiving PT, OT, Speech, and a Special Ed.

teacher once a week since she was 18 months old...made really great progress

with PT(went from crawling to walking well in 2 months), good progress with

OT(able to finger feed herself, but still no use of utensils, no pointing, still

has some sensory issues), and Speech has yet to really produce any results(still

no real words). I started her on the SCD after much research and discovering the

" underground " world of biomedical intervention. Even though I don't know what

exactly is going on with her(allergies, yeast, etc.), I couldn't wait a whole

month before seeing the DAN doc to intervene, knowing that she was suffering.

And I have seen good results so far...first formed NORMAL-smelling poop in

months, increased eye contact, decreased hyperactivity, and more babbling. Just

wondering what other people have experienced, what to expect, and how to prepare

myself for our appointment.

ANY advice helps!

Thanks,

Emerson

momma to 2 little girls

>

> How old is your daughter? In any EI programs? Any supplements? Not getting

proper food in her?

>

> Tammy

>

> [ ] DAN doctor

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm new to this group. My daughter has developmental delays, no other

diagnosis(seems no one wants to give her one). I have taken matters into my own

hands and started her on the specific carbohydrate diet. I also found a DAN

doctor, and we have our first appointment next week. I wanted to know if anyone

has any advice for this appointment...like what questions to ask, what to

expect?

>

> Thanks,

> Emerson

> momma to 2 little girls

>

>

>

>

>

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That helps I think. Sorry, I personally don't use a DAN but do well with

support on this board and others. I'm sure someone else can chime in with their

experience. If you'd like, mention Dr and location, some one can maybe share

good or bad experience.

Good luck.

Tammy

[ ] DAN doctor

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm new to this group. My daughter has developmental delays, no other

diagnosis(seems no one wants to give her one). I have taken matters into my own

hands and started her on the specific carbohydrate diet. I also found a DAN

doctor, and we have our first appointment next week. I wanted to know if anyone

has any advice for this appointment...like what questions to ask, what to

expect?

>

> Thanks,

> Emerson

> momma to 2 little girls

>

>

>

>

>

>

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i just started with a DAN doctor in the UK. they will guide you. i had to fill

out a massive questionnaire. they will take a look at the kid (in my case he

couldn't because i live in israel) and now i am starting lab tests and have

started a CF/GF diet. fingers crossed and good luck.

 

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A DAN doctor just (finally) moved into my city. I'm going to go talk to her, and

I was wondering if you all had any advice on what to ask, what to look for, etc.

Thanks!

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My problem is that I don't trust doctors. So I want to know what to look for in

a good one, and what are warning signs that I've found a bad one. My son has

been gf since birth and cf since about 2 years old (he's 3.5 now). So at least

that isn't an issue!

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>i just started with a DAN doctor in the UK. they will guide you. i had to fill

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couldn't because i live in israel) and now i am starting lab¡¡tests and have

started a CF/GF diet. fingers crossed and¡¡good luck.

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>A DAN doctor just (finally) moved into my city. I'm going to go talk to her,

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etc.

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Oh I don't know,maybe if a doctor refuses to do tests,or tells you that you or

 your child is making up fake illnesses and symptoms,or says (Fill in name of

medical problem.) is just something that happens with autism,we don't know

why,and you have to accept it.

These may be signs you have a bad doctor.

Another good one is I don't think you have ____________ but I am going to order

the test or evaluation just to prove you wrong,and make you look like an

idiot.This was just what the doctor at UNMH said to me,before he ordered my

autism evaluation.

                                

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Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 2:10 PM

 

My problem is that I don't trust doctors. So I want to know what to look

for in a good one, and what are warning signs that I've found a bad one. My son

has been gf since birth and cf since about 2 years old (he's 3.5 now). So at

least that isn't an issue!

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>i just started with a DAN doctor in the UK. they will guide you. i had to fill

out a massive questionnaire. they will take a look at the kid (in my case he

couldn't because i live in israel) and now i am starting lab tests and have

started a CF/GF diet. fingers crossed and good luck.

> 

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>Subject: DAN doctor

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>A DAN doctor just (finally) moved into my city. I'm going to go talk to her,

and I was wondering if you all had any advice on what to ask, what to look for,

etc.

>

>Thanks!

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