Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 > > Dana, > > can fat malabsorption lead to heartburn and gastritis? > > > Yes, altho so can other things. > > > > My son seems to be having these 2 issues lately and has been having > > yellowy fatty stools. > > > Also try adding a high lipase enzyme. > > > >> His lipid peroxides are high and they suggested > > Cq10. He also needs carnitine and b2. > > > CoQ10 and Carnitine are part of mito cocktail. You can read the other > ingredients here > > http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm > > > >> He is on hydroxy B12 shots. You > > have said previously that B12 can knock down B2? > > > I remember someone else saying that, not me. My kids needed carnitine > and folic acid with B12. > > > >> Also I don't think my > > son is tolerating his probiotics. Why is it that some kids can't > > tolerate bifido species again? > > > My son also did not tolerate probiotics. I don't really know why. I > gave him biotin instead, which worked very well. > > > >>Could lack of folic acid > > cause decrease in appetite? > > > I don't know, it caused other issues for my kids. I know zinc > deficiency can cause lack of appetite. So can taking B vitamins and > EFAs without mito cocktail. > > Dana > Dana, if you check out my last reply to you - I just had a thought that this must be a corn allergy my son is having. He had high aspergillus on food sensitivity- now he doesn't tolerate cal/mag citrate, he has stuffy nose, his nizoral contains zanthan gum which I now know peope with corn sensitivity have. His juice has citric acid (is this different from ascorbic acid?) His california baby wash has corn in it and when I use it he has rubbed his nipples in the bath tub. Sorbitol bothers him. I need to find a complete list of things that contain corn so we can try to avoid them but I don't know a good source do you? Does this sound like corn allergy to you? He also tends to bite people lately. Are some probiotics derived from corn? Help I have to talk to the gastro tommorrow. Did corn make your children have fermented smelling BM's? He only seems to like the sugary fruits in cans and then I also noticed alot of baby food has citric acid in it. Maybe this is the culprit. Thanks, Wanda - I really need help as my son is getting sicker. Also after giving the nizoral my son does a lot of hand waving in front of eyes. Did corn do this to your kids? Thanks again Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 > > Hi Dana what other issues did lack of folic acid create? Folic acid deficiency: scripting, hyper and meanness with mB12, severely dry cracked bleeding skin, especially lips, heels, and fingers [hangnails], thick nail beds, excessively thick or thin fingernails, severe cracks in the underside of the toes [it looks like someone took a sharp knife and sliced his toes on the underside, right where they join with the foot]. And I > can't seem to find a folic acid supplement that doesn't have calcium > in it. What kind did you use? Henry's [store] brand. >> For carnatine did you use acetyl or > just plain? I have used both. It seemed to make no difference which one I used. >> Do you know if carnetine helps with gastric reflux? It might, but probably not. > These are the things that seem to cause him pain lately: > proteases, Either he does not tolerate the protease, or he has an ulcer. >>cal/mag citrate, My son did not tolerate calcium because he was calcium toxic [despite 2 years of cf without supplementation]. >> citric acid, Generally made from corn. > So, should I just give him Phenol Assist, Carb digest, and some sort > of lipase enzyme? Do those work okay for him? >>Is there some type of enzyme for proteins that is > not a protease? Or something that will help? Like maybe carnitine? You might try giving an amino blend. Also, try apple cider vinegar. Tastes VERY strong, but eliminated a few of my food/digestion/other issues. > Also all of the yeast meds he gets compounded are SCD compliant but > they all contain glycerine- ehat is it about glycerine that some kids > don't tolerate? I don't know, but I do know at least one child who does not tolerate glycerine. >>He definitely > improves with language and the hydroxy B12 but something is missing to > pull it together and most of his issues deal with yeast. Try adding the carnitine and some folic w/o calcium. >> What brand > of biotin do you use? Henry's >> Also I know he needs certain vitamins and I > want him to get the benefit of them should I just give them at the > same time as the yeast meds? You can. >>Also does Phenol sensitivity have to do > with the liver not being able to detox them? It is the body's inability to convert the phenols into antioxidants. Not sure if that happens in the liver or elsewhere. If you suspect liver issues, try adding milk thistle and taurine. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 helpforibs.com has acacia fiber, which my son is using. It's supposed to be gentler on the stomach than the regular ones in the stores. A few health food stores carry it. hth, Corinne --- dalywanda@... wrote: From: " dalywanda " <dalywanda@...> Subject: Re: New to Enzymes Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:55:26 -0000 --- In , " danasview " > > > Thank you for telling me about the folic acid. His lips have been cracked and burning. Rubbing them on things. I have noticed hangnails and nails that rip off easily. And a biting thing lately. possibly burning in feet and hands because he is stomping alot. The Gastro said his folate was fine but that may be because he had some recently but other tests have said his figlu was high meaning the need for folic acid and also genetic testing has suggested using methyltetrahydrofolate or something like that. 5 MTHF. I will look into that too. Thanks for the corn allergy web site. I think my son is experiencing heartburn. We talked to our first gastro today and he wants him on zantac and mesamalanine (but personally I don't think this will work on him) Then our second opinion said to put him on the Creon 20 enzymes and try to use benefiber with him. What do you think about the 2nd opinion? Just out of curiosity. I'm scared the benefiber might not work with him but it sure beats using miralax or something like that. That stuff is so bad for you and some of the stuff in it I think also contains corn from reading the corn allergy website. Thank you so much. Wanda _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I was just checking to see how you are feeling? Let me know if you need anything!!! We will be around all weekend. Chasity Re: New to Enzymes Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:55:26 -0000 --- In @ <mailto:%40> , " danasview " > > > Thank you for telling me about the folic acid. His lips have been cracked and burning. Rubbing them on things. I have noticed hangnails and nails that rip off easily. And a biting thing lately. possibly burning in feet and hands because he is stomping alot. The Gastro said his folate was fine but that may be because he had some recently but other tests have said his figlu was high meaning the need for folic acid and also genetic testing has suggested using methyltetrahydrofolate or something like that. 5 MTHF. I will look into that too. Thanks for the corn allergy web site. I think my son is experiencing heartburn. We talked to our first gastro today and he wants him on zantac and mesamalanine (but personally I don't think this will work on him) Then our second opinion said to put him on the Creon 20 enzymes and try to use benefiber with him. What do you think about the 2nd opinion? Just out of curiosity. I'm scared the benefiber might not work with him but it sure beats using miralax or something like that. That stuff is so bad for you and some of the stuff in it I think also contains corn from reading the corn allergy website. Thank you so much. Wanda __________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hello! I am so thankful I found this group, as I have just started looking into enzymes. Ive tried to post this a couple days ago, but it never showed up on the posts. I really want to try my 10 yo old AS son on Enzymes, but have no idea where to start! Is there any specific ones that have worked well for any of you? I need to start simple & slow. Ive heard about Zyme Prime being good to start with, but not if they have constipation. Its not a major issue, he just leans toward the constipation side at times. I want something to help work on the anxiety, resistance to change, social issues. He also eats mostly processed foods - no veggies except canned carrots. Any guidance you can give wiil be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm only on week2 of enzymes, but I can give you a beginner's view. My son is very similar about not eating much, mainly processed and mainly starches. We also have a problem with constipation (or feeling like he's constipated even when he goes), gas, bloating, etc. Have you looked into or read about yeast issues? I would say to think about adding probiotics as well. I read Enzymes for Autism and other Neurological Conditions by DeFelice for most starting out info. I went with a broad enzyme (Trienza) to start and probiotics. We are starting low, decreasing and increasing doses as needed and adding vitamins or other supplements as I see the need. > > Hello! I am so thankful I found this group, as I have just started > looking into enzymes. Ive tried to post this a couple days ago, but it > never showed up on the posts. I really want to try my 10 yo old AS son > on Enzymes, but have no idea where to start! Is there any specific ones > that have worked well for any of you? I need to start simple & slow. > Ive heard about Zyme Prime being good to start with, but not if they > have constipation. Its not a major issue, he just leans toward the > constipation side at times. I want something to help work on the > anxiety, resistance to change, social issues. He also eats mostly > processed foods - no veggies except canned carrots. Any guidance you > can give wiil be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!! Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Thank you for sharing your view. My son is already on probiotics, but its the Nature's Plus Kidz AcidophiKidz, and Im not sure if there are better ones he could be taking??? With the Trienza, have you noticed any of the adjustment side effects in Defelice's book? How low of a dose did you start with, and was it once a day or each meal. Im going to reread her book about the yeast issues, thanks for brining that up. Also, what other vitamins & supplements do you add? takes Flintstones Chewable w/ extra C, which I know arent the best, but the only ones he will take willingly. Thanks for your help!! Robin > I'm only on week2 of enzymes, but I can give you a beginner's view. > My son is very similar about not eating much, mainly processed and > mainly starches. We also have a problem with constipation (or feeling > like he's constipated even when he goes), gas, bloating, etc. Have > you looked into or read about yeast issues? I would say to think > about adding probiotics as well. I read Enzymes for Autism and other > Neurological Conditions by DeFelice for most starting out info. > I went with a broad enzyme (Trienza) to start and probiotics. We are > starting low, decreasing and increasing doses as needed and adding > vitamins or other supplements as I see the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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