enzymes

December 13, 2004

---It's funny because I have cancer and a great immune system! I

watch everyone around me get colds and I have yet to get one!

C

December 13, 2004

In a cold, the immune system pounces on a virus or germ. A " lazy " immune system

might not mount the attack the way a healthy one would. Therefor, you may get

the virus, but not the immune symptoms.

<cbmd3@...> wrote:

December 14, 2004

it's weird having cancer though and seeing my boyfriend " the healthy one " get a

terrible cold while I don't when I used to be very suseptible to them

C

Wortkoetter wrote:

In a cold, the immune system pounces on a virus or germ. A " lazy " immune system

might not mount the attack the way a healthy one would. Therefore, you may get

the virus, but not the immune symptoms.

December 25, 2004

On that Wobbenzyme,can you get that at a health store!

TERRY

moonbeam@... wrote:

Generally the idea is to get quite a lot of

these enzymes, either through fruit or multi enzyme complex tablets, such as the

patented Wobenzyme, which was shown quite effective in clinical trials.

December 26, 2004

Youcn read some useful information here:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/enzyme/proteolytic_enzymes.htm

The newer formulas do even better than the 30 year old Wobenzyme ...

From: " tery smith " <smithihelp@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Enzymes

> On that Wobbenzyme,can you get that at a health store!

>

> TERRY

>

> moonbeam@... wrote:

> Generally the idea is to get quite a lot of

> these enzymes, either through fruit or multi enzyme complex tablets, such

as the

> patented Wobenzyme, which was shown quite effective in clinical trials.

December 26, 2004

In a message dated 12/26/04 5:26:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sunchristals@... writes:

> Twinlab Super Enzyme Caps

Twinlab uses a lot of potato starch in their products and I think that their

Enzymes fall into this category. There are several reasons you might not want

potato starch in your diet.

December 26, 2004

I have been using Twinlab Super Enzyme Caps. I think the dosages are larger.

Might be more economical too.

Chris

December 27, 2004

Terry,

I get it at my health food store, but it is kind of unique. They are very picky

about their suppliers.

They also carry all the supplements on the Gerson diet and specifically from the

companies that Gersons recommends.

Call around to the health food stores in your area.

It is available online, too. Here's a few:

http://www.buywobenzym.com/

http://www.vitamintrader.com/page/vitatrader/PROD/MM0260

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00016WVVO/102-3793522-7566508

Dolores

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>

> On that Wobbenzyme,can you get that at a health store!

>

> TERRY

>

> moonbeam@... wrote:

> Generally the idea is to get quite a lot of

> these enzymes, either through fruit or multi enzyme complex tablets, such as

the

> patented Wobenzyme, which was shown quite effective in clinical trials.

>

December 27, 2004

Enzymes:

If you are really serious about enzymes for cancer, I think you will find that

the Dews company has the highest amount of Chymozyme in their Chymozyme Plus.

They are expensive. Years ago when I was on Dr. Willian 's regime Dews is

where he recommended buying these.

dewsnatural.com They have a special going on until Dec. 31.

This is where I buy mine.

H.

January 14, 2005

Thanks for that info! TERRY

tery smith <smithihelp@...> wrote:

On that Wobbenzyme,can you get that at a health store!

TERRY

moonbeam@... wrote:

Generally the idea is to get quite a lot of

these enzymes, either through fruit or multi enzyme complex tablets, such as the

patented Wobenzyme, which was shown quite effective in clinical trials.

January 15, 2005

Where can you buy these Wobenzymes? ~Amber

> Generally the idea is to get quite a lot of

> these enzymes, either through fruit or multi enzyme complex tablets, such

as the

> patented Wobenzyme, which was shown quite effective in clinical trials.

February 11, 2006

Donna,

Resarch in both conventional (matrix metaloproteinase inhibition) and

alternative (Dr. Rath's protocol) cancer treatment strategies strive

to build up the stromal tissues twixt cancer cells and encapsulating

tumors. This would seem to be strongly opposing the Wobenzyme

strategy of tearing down these same tissues. I have seen rapid

spread of melanoma among patients who chose to use Wobenzyme.

February 12, 2006

, I am usually good with words, I just find it hard to

eloquently reflect the sincerity of my gratitude except with a THANK

YOU! If I may, would you recommend any enzymes for stage IV breast

adenocarcinoma and if so which ones? I am trying to find a link between

an autoimmune disease as well as malabsorption, for sure with fats and

probably carbohydrates. I have implemented probiotics and it was a get

worse before better although am starting to see results. And again,

Thank you so very much. Donna

>

> Donna,

>

> Resarch in both conventional (matrix metaloproteinase inhibition) and

> alternative (Dr. Rath's protocol) cancer treatment strategies strive

> to build up the stromal tissues twixt cancer cells and encapsulating

> tumors. This would seem to be strongly opposing the Wobenzyme

> strategy of tearing down these same tissues. I have seen rapid

> spread of melanoma among patients who chose to use Wobenzyme.

>

February 12, 2006

> , I am usually good with words, I just find it hard to

> eloquently reflect the sincerity of my gratitude except with a THANK

> YOU! If I may, would you recommend any enzymes for stage IV breast

> adenocarcinoma and if so which ones? I am trying to find a link

> between an autoimmune disease as well as malabsorption, for sure with

> fats and probably carbohydrates. I have implemented probiotics and it

> was a get worse before better although am starting to see results.

> And again, Thank you so very much. Donna

I replied to your initial enzyme questions Donna; this time I'd

like to point out that the breast is easily accessible for the

GEIPE treatment which resulted in about 98% effectiveness in the

animal studies and I've seen it work. www.cancer-treatment.net

Not bad for a $5 cure, at the very least it will shrink the

tumours and buy a lot of time for the rest of your approaches.

The treatment has no contra-indications or side effects and it

goes well with the diet, detox and lifetyle changes that will

prevent reoccurence.

If you're concened about metastasis, Transfer Factor and a

few other things discussed on the list tend to prevent it pretty

good.

I think we're really on the right track with the Transfer Factor

because increasing NK cells, the ones that eat cancer, is what

recent research (televised news story) did to specifically clear

out large breast cancer mass. Unfortunately because they actually

cloned NK cells and reinfused them, this therapy may take a

couple of years to hit the streets, but for now Transfer Factor

is unexcelled in increasing NK cells.

Duncan

July 20, 2007

We use Enzymedica Digest and Gluten Ease that I get from Vitamin

Shoppe. Truthfully, I would like to try Houston's cuz I've heard

they are stronger, but I can barely afford the ones we get now. The

ones we have now work well for general digestion issues, but don't

work for my son for occasional gluten and casein meals with enzymes.

I've heard some kids don't do well using any enzymes to take the

place of gfcf diet, so maybe it's that with my son too.

hth,

Corinne

>

> I use other enzymes for myself that I get from my local health food

store (can't think of the name off hand!), but for my son, I do not

trust any other enzymes besides Houston Enzymes!!! They have made

the WORLD of difference for us, and they are tailor made for the

needs of our children. So, I guess it depends on what you are using

the enzymes for. I know that I would do better, probably with the

Houston Enzymes, as well, but I honestly can't afford it! I have my

ASD son on Houston, and one of my NT sons, as well. That pretty much

breaks me right there each month, but the improvements are SO worth

it! ( in BOTH of the boys!) Something to think about . . .

>

> ~Diane

> Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD

>

> <<Message: 24

> I know that most of you recommend Houston's enzymes and I have

sent for

> samples already. That being said, does anyone use enzymes that

they buy at a store

> instead of online? I would appreciate any advice and/or

experiences you all

> have to share.

>

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March 19, 2008

>>Should I be concerned about

> side effects since she has been gfcf for 6 months and we did see lots

> of side effects when we started the diet?

Depending on what other foods, besides gluten/casein, she might not

tolerate, and which enzymes you use, you might notice an adjustment

period, which typically lasts about 3 weeks.

>>How soon can she have an

> infraction once taking the enzymes?

Enzymes work right away, so you can give " infractions " immediately, if

you want. However, usually it is best to make sure she is tolerating

the enzymes first, and challenge foods one at a time, so you can

determine if the enzymes work for all foods, or just certain foods and

not others.

Dana

April 14, 2008

>

> If I were to start my daughter on enzymes without any testing, which

> type would I use?

I used HNI with much success

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

April 14, 2008

> If I were to start my daughter on enzymes without any testing, which

> type would I use? There's a new one from vitacost.com called BioCore

> Kids. Here is the link to the ingredients:

> http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-BioCore-Kids#IngredientFacts. Is there

> even enough of each enzyme in there fo do any good?

Kathy,

The Biocore Kids will work if your child needs chewables, but it doesn't look

like it has the

special blend for casein/gluten foods if that is something you need. Also, you

may find

the dosing a bit low as you noticed. The enzymes aren't " bad " , it is just the

product is not

designed for a therapeutic use. It is meant for general help digestion for a

person with

typically good digestion. It isn't designed to ' " fix " a serious gut situation.

In general, the best bet currently available for starting enzymes, particularly:

- if you aren't sure where to start OR

- if the person has serious gut injury OR

- if the person is highly sensitive to foods,

.... is to start with Lacto and followed with GlutenEase (Enzymedica). This

combination has

really come through where others have caused problems (there are specific

reasons they

tend to work well), especially in the beginning. Neither is a chewable, although

they can

be mixed in any powder or liquid, or just swallow the capsule. They lack any of

the

noticeable smell or taste a lot of enzymes in capsules have. Here is a link to

the Great

Low-n-Slow Method for starting. This method has increased the success rate with

starting enzymes a good 30%. A lot of people may not need this, but many do, so

if you

are not sure, consider this avenue.

http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm

.

April 15, 2008

,

Hi! I've had a few questions of my own like this. My son 4, has been taking

Enzymes-Zyme prime and AFP for a month now. When we first started, we noticed a

huge difference in eye contact and he seemed to focus better. But the stimming

started. He used to do the hand flapping alot, but that was the extent of it.

Since the enzymes, it has increased plus he's added a few more things,like,

making sure all the doors are closed, if they're on cracks, or flinging the

cabinet doors open, getting things and putting them close to his face, turning

on light switches and fans. He wasn't like this till we started. Will this go

away?

Also, i started giving him Super Nu-Thera, 2 capsules a day(I've taken it down

to 1 now) Citramin-2 capsules, CLO-1tsp,Calcium- 1/4tsp, Vitamin C-1/4tsp,

Colostrum-1tsp and Probiotics-1/4tsp.We use Kirkman Labs and HN. I give him his

enzymes together before each meal and not always with snacks. Then i break up

the rest of the pills throughout the day. Is this all to much at one time? I

haven't had him tested for anything. He's non-verbal for the most part. He can

request what he wants and thats all. I feel like i'm at a dead end. Any

thoughts, advice or opinions is GREATLY needed at this point. Thanks for reading

and sorry for the long post..

Nadja

jornmatt <kdefelice@...> wrote: > If I

were to start my daughter on enzymes without any testing, which

> type would I use? There's a new one from vitacost.com called BioCore

> Kids. Here is the link to the ingredients:

> http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-BioCore-Kids#IngredientFacts. Is there

> even enough of each enzyme in there fo do any good?

Kathy,

The Biocore Kids will work if your child needs chewables, but it doesn't look

like it has the

special blend for casein/gluten foods if that is something you need. Also, you

may find

the dosing a bit low as you noticed. The enzymes aren't " bad " , it is just the

product is not

designed for a therapeutic use. It is meant for general help digestion for a

person with

typically good digestion. It isn't designed to ' " fix " a serious gut situation.

In general, the best bet currently available for starting enzymes,

particularly:

- if you aren't sure where to start OR

- if the person has serious gut injury OR

- if the person is highly sensitive to foods,

... is to start with Lacto and followed with GlutenEase (Enzymedica). This

combination has

really come through where others have caused problems (there are specific

reasons they

tend to work well), especially in the beginning. Neither is a chewable,

although they can

be mixed in any powder or liquid, or just swallow the capsule. They lack any of

the

noticeable smell or taste a lot of enzymes in capsules have. Here is a link to

the Great

Low-n-Slow Method for starting. This method has increased the success rate with

starting enzymes a good 30%. A lot of people may not need this, but many do, so

if you

are not sure, consider this avenue.

http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsdosing.htm

.

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April 19, 2008

Very exciting Dana!

I hope there is more to come

preemiemom0703@... wrote: Nadja,

Isn't it exciting when they start something new?! YAY!!!

Dana C. - one of many Dana's

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From: Nadja <opal29_us@...>

Thank you Dana..

I'm happy to say, we had stopped everything except the enzymes and started

slowly back into the other stuff...so far so good. He still closes doors, BUT,

when i walk over to him, to close them, he does it instead, or i can just look

at him now and he won't open them, lol. I pray we're on our way to something

better. He did something totally new tonight as i was putting him to bed..he

started saying, " yes, No " and shaking his head to the proper word, i'm tickled

pink. Then he started doing it with his stuffed goose, shaking its head yes,

then no, all the while saying it too. YAY!!!

Nadja

preemiemom0703@... wrote: My son " flipped out " when we introduced

enzymes. The behavioral issues lasted about 3 weeks but chronic vomiting and

excess mucus lasted almost 6 wks. We learned that he MUST have his enzymes mixed

with food and half of the regular dose. Right now is finally up to 1

capsule broad-based digestive enzymes per feeding and 1 capsule Culturelle

(probiotic) in the AM mixed with his food. My son is on a feeding tube with a

blenderized diet (i.e. I blend his food). Into his daily food batch goes

calcium, magnesium, zinc and folic acid. We introduced a low-phenol diet two

days ago and immediately noticed his red ears and eye circles vanished. We're

getting ready to start supplementing with No-Fenol from Houstons NI. This is

just our experiences - hope it helps.

Dana C.