Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 >>This fall I started the AFP-Peptizyde > with each meal along with CFGF. I noticed right away he was more > social. About 1 month ago I started with allowing him to have pizza > one day a week, only on the weekends with 3 enzyme tabs. Since that > time I have noticed increase problem with his speech such as finding > the right word and more outburts of anger when he gets frustrated. For my son, it would not have been gluten/casein in the pizza, but the nitrates in the meat on top. Try giving him something with the AFP that *only* has wheat or milk, not a bunch of potential problem foods all at the same time. Or, give all three enzymes [AFP, Zyme Prime, No-Fenol], see if that helps. Congrats on your success so far! Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I have tried using enzymes twice with my son and both times seem to have a dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if it is stomach pain or something else. He has severe headbanging and violent episodes. Is this possible? Do I need to look into other areas related to pain? Thanks for any help. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 My son was the same. The worst reaction he ever had to anything. Our nutritionist thought it was all the amio acids been released which he had not experience before - I'm not sure if I agree though as it was so bad. We then got seperate samples starting with No fenol. We literally opened a capsule and dipped a wet cocktail stick in the end, put in some pear puree. Each day we increased it very slowly. After three days the dramtatic improvements to him were so unbelievable we were able to increase a bit quicker. We then did the same adding prime zyme and finally AFP. Only when he was on a conbination equal to tri enza we did a straight switch with no problems. It took a long time but was definitely worth it. Also this way if he does have a reaction you know which one is causing the problem. BW Alison R On 30 July 2010 12:07, Drissia <ritzywright@...> wrote: > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son and both times seem to have a > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if it is stomach pain or something > else. He has severe headbanging and violent episodes. > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into other areas related to pain? > > Thanks for any help. > > D. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 The blood test showed antibodies to gluten and gliaden. The pediatrician said he should be gluten free. But when the gastroenterologist did colonoscopies he said no celiac. My son refuses to eat fruits or vegetables except for potatoes if they have gravy and he eats pureed pears or applesauce at breakfast. Will drink a sip of juice every now and then. He has lived on a diet of kfc strips and mashed potatoes and gravy and fudge popsicles for a long time. When he was 8, he started becoming wasted and the pediatrician and nutritionist said to give him whatever he would eat and compensate with vitamins. So we did. Amounts to me starting at 18 at the beginning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son > and both > > > times seem to have a > > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if > it is > > > stomach pain or something > > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent > episodes. > > > > > > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into > other areas > > > related to pain? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 A colonoscopy will not detect Celiac Disease. Only an endoscopy, with biopsy, can do that. And even then, it can miss it, if the biopsy picks some spots that haven't been damaged yet. If the blood work shows gluten and gliadin antibodies, he *definitely* needs to be gluten free. Gluten-free living has changed my life, like you would not believe. It is well worth the misery of the first few months. West, shanwest@... 2010-07-30 ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: drissia wright Receiver: Time: 2010-07-30, 09:18:14 Subject: Re: help with enzymes >The blood test showed antibodies to gluten and gliaden. The pediatrician said he should be gluten free. But when the gastroenterologist did colonoscopies he said no celiac. My son refuses to eat fruits or vegetables except for potatoes if they have gravy and he eats pureed pears or applesauce at breakfast. Will drink a sip of juice every now and then. >He has lived on a diet of kfc strips and mashed potatoes and gravy and fudge popsicles for a long time. When he was 8, he started becoming wasted and the pediatrician and nutritionist said to give him whatever he would eat and compensate with vitamins. So we did. Amounts to me starting at 18 at the beginning. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son >> and both >> > > times seem to have a >> > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if >> it is >> > > stomach pain or something >> > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent >> episodes. >> > > > >> > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into >> other areas >> > > related to pain? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for any help. >> > > > >> > > > D. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 During the first colonoscopy the ileum valve was locked down and he thought we were dealing with crohns but the second showed nothing but spots of inflammation. The endoscopy was done several years before and showed acid reflux and spots of inflammation. He was prescribed prevacid. This time he was prescribed bentyl for IBS. All i know is the older he gets the sicker he seems and the more volatile his temperament. >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son >> and both >> > > times seem to have a >> > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if >> it is >> > > stomach pain or something >> > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent >> episodes. >> > > > >> > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into >> other areas >> > > related to pain? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for any help. >> > > > >> > > > D. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Thanks. >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son >>> and both >>> > > times seem to have a >>> > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if >>> it is >>> > > stomach pain or something >>> > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent >>> episodes. >>> > > > >>> > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into >>> other areas >>> > > related to pain? >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks for any help. >>> > > > >>> > > > D. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >>> removed] >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------ >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 My last email should have said nut flours, and that I read somewhere if the individual has a lot of sensitivities to start with almond flour as it is supposes to be easily digested. Unless of course almond is one of the persons sensitivities. Thanks Tisha Re: help with enzymes Thanks. >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son >>> and both >>> > > times seem to have a >>> > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if >>> it is >>> > > stomach pain or something >>> > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent >>> episodes. >>> > > > >>> > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into >>> other areas >>> > > related to pain? >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks for any help. >>> > > > >>> > > > D. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >>> removed] >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------ >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I knew what you meant. We have used almond milk before. He doesn't eat nuts, so beyond that I have no idea, but will give it a try. >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I have tried using enzymes twice with my son >>> and both >>> > > times seem to have a >>> > > > dramatic behavioral reaction. Don't know if >>> it is >>> > > stomach pain or something >>> > > > else. He has severe headbanging and violent >>> episodes. >>> > > > >>> > > > Is this possible? Do I need to look into >>> other areas >>> > > related to pain? >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks for any help. >>> > > > >>> > > > D. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been >>> removed] >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------ >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I would say to do almond flour last if at all. It is so extremely high in oxalates, which according to Great Plains labs about 84% of people with autism have a problem with. Oxalates go along with yeast so if you are fighting yeast or have mold issues there is a good chance that oxalates are a problem. Also, if you are working with mito issues oxalates can cause that. It's another thing that results from having a leaky gut and dysbiosis. Just a thought. -Sierra > > > From: tkb1922@... <tkb1922@...> > Subject: Re: help with enzymes > > Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 11:36 PM > > > Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 My boys have mito. Would it be beneficial to look at low oxalates for them? We have never tried that? They did have problems with almond flour baked goods on SCD and honey. So, I had to pull them out. On Sat Jul 31st, 2010 9:28 PM EDT purpledragonmama05 wrote: >I would say to do almond flour last if at all. It is so extremely high in oxalates, which according to Great Plains labs about 84% of people with autism have a problem with. Oxalates go along with yeast so if you are fighting yeast or have mold issues there is a good chance that oxalates are a problem. Also, if you are working with mito issues oxalates can cause that. It's another thing that results from having a leaky gut and dysbiosis. Just a thought. > >-Sierra > > >> >> >> From: tkb1922@... <tkb1922@...> >> Subject: Re: help with enzymes >> >> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 11:36 PM >> >> >> Â > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think it might be worth a look. I noticed 3 years ago that my son reacted to the really high oxalate things and took those out, but didn't look into it beyond that (I was having " special diet overload " and didn't feel like I could deal with any more restrictions). I came to it now because I was giving him Enhansa (sup from Lee Silsby), which is high oxalate, and he got urinary issues, which is a common oxalate issue. We've gone low oxalate and he is just leaping ahead in language! He is so close to recovery already and I think this may be the final piece. In researching it this time around I came across the info that oxalate buildup in the cells damages and kills mitochondria. If you're interested, I'd join the Trying_Low_Oxalates group. -Sierra > >> > >> > >> From: tkb1922@ <tkb1922@> > >> Subject: Re: help with enzymes > >> > >> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 11:36 PM > >> > >> > >> Â > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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