Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Rose, Soy (except for very small amounts of fermented soy) is not good for anyone, particularly boys. Soy reduces assimilation of important minerals like calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc and can cause growth problems in children. It has enzyme inhibitors which interfere with digestion and many other biological processes. It contains phytoestrogens which disrupt hormone function and also inhibit thyroid function. It also contains high levels of toxic aluminum, which affects the nervous system and kidneys. Even is your son isn't allergic or sensitive to soy, I would eliminate it. On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Rose Rudolph wrote: > If I've tried the gfcf diet and it didn't work, would it be worth > taking out soy too. He tested midly positive with soy and the doc > said (at the time) that it wasn't necessary. Do any of you know why > soy is like gluten and casein and why it's bad for our kids. Any > success stories with soy- removal. Thanks so much!! > > > Rose > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 my son had a slight intolerence to soy and the doctor told me that same thing. Now its been 2 years later and he is highly intolerant to soy. Here is a website that tells you what happed to inmates who were on a soy diet and how sick it made them. http://www.westonaprice.org/Cruel-and-Unusual-Punishment-Soy-Diet-for-Illinois-P\ risoners.html [ ] Soy-free too? If I've tried the gfcf diet and it didn't work, would it be worth taking out soy too. He tested midly positive with soy and the doc said (at the time) that it wasn't necessary. Do any of you know why soy is like gluten and casein and why it's bad for our kids. Any success stories with soy- removal. Thanks so much!! Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Sorry, I should have posted the link instead... http://www.westonaprice.org/Soy-Alert/ [ ] Soy-free too? If I've tried the gfcf diet and it didn't work, would it be worth taking out soy too. He tested midly positive with soy and the doc said (at the time) that it wasn't necessary. Do any of you know why soy is like gluten and casein and why it's bad for our kids. Any success stories with soy- removal. Thanks so much!! Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 My kids and I are GF/CF/SF and egg-free. We experimented with a lot of combinations of dietary restrictions, this seemed to give the best improvements - it takes some experimenting to figure out what will or will not help. Addtionally, we cannot tolerate many of the GF grains - they cause similar problems as gluten. For us, we also avoid: sorghum, millet, quinoa, buckwheat, and the bean flours (fava, garbanzo, etc). I guess this is verging on the SCD but we do not follow SCD. Also - there seems to be debate about spelt - we avoid it (I believe it to contain gluten and be problematic despite what some say about it being 'different' enough). The only grains we use right now are rice and some corn (GMO-free, organic when possible). I think this may be similar for others who've tried GF and not noticed a change - it might be that the substitutes they are using are also problematic. Also - there's one study I found that show proteins found in wheat, milk, soy, and pea can serve as substrates for tissue transglutaminase (which is the antigen which elicits auto-immune antibodies in Celiac disease). (I was also curious why so many GF'rs also seem to need to be CF and soy-free.... this was one article that intrigued me....) http://www.biochemj.org/bj/368/0377/3680377.pdf See Table 2 on page 384, near the bottom " alimentary proteins " Interestingly enough, candidae albicans (yeast) surface proteins are also substrates of TTG... hth. best, > > If I've tried the gfcf diet and it didn't work, would it be worth taking out soy too. He tested midly positive with soy and the doc said (at the time) that it wasn't necessary. Do any of you know why soy is like gluten and casein and why it's bad for our kids. Any success stories with soy- removal. Thanks so much!! > > > Rose > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Soy made more difference than even gluten or casein removal to our son. Put it this way, he had language, and after a series of vaxes between age one and 18 mos, lost all language after this. By age two he was casein free, and on his way to being gluten free, he had very little language, really did not speak much. Around 26 mos, we removed him off of soy milk, and literally, a few days after removal of soy, he started to speak. His speech therapist wanted to know " what we had done " to our son. I will never forget he looked at a book about animals, and said - look, duck. After 67 rounds of chelation, he is starting to tolerate foods again - eggs, corn, a small piece of cheese now and again with enzymes. Dietary infractions with gluten, cause some eczema, but no bad bowels or bad behavior. But if we give a supp with any trace of soy in it or any food with soy - all hell still breaks loose. The proteins in soy are similar to those in casein I believe and that is why they cause our kids problems. Soy is evil in my book - and off course when our son had bad bowels from his formula as an infant- they put him on soy formula. Irene > > > my son had a slight intolerence to soy and the doctor told me that same thing. Now its been 2 years later and he is highly intolerant to soy. Here is a website that tells you what happed to inmates who were on a soy diet and how sick it made them. > > > http://www.westonaprice.org/Cruel-and-Unusual-Punishment-Soy-Diet-for-Illinois-P\ risoners.html > > > > > > [ ] Soy-free too? > > > > > > If I've tried the gfcf diet and it didn't work, would it be worth taking out soy too. He tested midly positive with soy and the doc said (at the time) that it wasn't necessary. Do any of you know why soy is like gluten and casein and why it's bad for our kids. Any success stories with soy- removal. Thanks so much!! > > Rose > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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