iPod

[Guest guest]

,

With all due respect - have you ever read your mapping report for the Freedom?

It clearly states the mixing ratio for both t-coil to mic and accessory to mic.

The audiologist can set these. The default settings are 3:1 where the t-coil or

accessory are three times as great as the mic. Yes, you may be able to adjust

yourself using volume and sensitivity, but it is possible to have your

audiologist set as well.

FWIW

Regards,

Suzanne in CT

mom to Sam, 8yo

N24C 09/00 left

N24 double array 06/05 right

freedom both

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> ,

> Ever read the manual? LOL With the audio cable connected, and sens set

> to zero, no environmental sound is heard. If you want to hear environmental

> sound you simply increase sens. The sound from the audio device remains the

> same. If you want to increase both, you raise volume. There is no need for

> a mix, and I am not even sure that there is such a thing as when mixing t

> coil/mic because by default, one can control their own mix using sens and/or

> volume.

>

> So, with sens at zero, its 100% audio deivce. As you raise sens, you

> mix more and more mic.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> I installed a skylight in my apartment... The people who live above me are

> furious!

> & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

I am one of those people...and I don't care if I miss the doorbell or the

telephone LOL

Seriously, you can have it programmed so that you have a mix just like you can

get a t-coil

mix. In fact, I tried to get it so I can't get any environmental sound, and it's

not

possible...audie tried and tried and spoke with Cochlear and it seems that the

best you can

get is a 10:1 ratio, which is still pretty good.

I can only think that they designed it this way for safety's sake.

Deb

>

> I have a question for all the unilaterally implanted people who use IPods

> with a patch cord into the processor. Doesn't that eliminate

> environmental sounds as well? Aren't you afriad you're going to miss

> something by using a direct connect? Like the doorbell ringing, phone

> ringing, etc.? I've rarely used the direct connect, mainly because I

> don't like cords, but also because I don't want o miss out on what is

> going on around me. Can you set the cord to give you some of the

> surrounding sounds? Or is is 100% music from the Ipod, etc?

>

> I generally just use a CD player in the background, don't connect

> directly to it.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right after I posted I saw Chris' post in reply to 's question (read

first, Deb!) and saw

that he suggested the T at 100% as an option. I hadn't considered doing that. I

get a lot of

EMF from my environment when I'm on t-coil, I wonder if I wouldn't pick that up

if I use

that setting with the direct connect cord when listening to my iPod.

I agree with though, using it while riding a bike would be a risky

endeavor.

Deb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a question for all the unilaterally implanted people who use IPods

> > with a patch cord into the processor. Doesn't that eliminate

> > environmental sounds as well? Aren't you afriad you're going to miss

> > something by using a direct connect? Like the doorbell ringing, phone

> > ringing, etc.? I've rarely used the direct connect, mainly because I

> > don't like cords, but also because I don't want o miss out on what is

> > going on around me. Can you set the cord to give you some of the

> > surrounding sounds? Or is is 100% music from the Ipod, etc?

> >

> > I generally just use a CD player in the background, don't connect

> > directly to it.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Very true, ...lowering the sensitivity does help...I've not found it

brings me to zero

environmental sound but again it probably depends on the volume of the

environmental

sound.

Deb

>

> ,

> Ever read the manual? LOL With the audio cable connected, and sens set

> to zero, no environmental sound is heard. If you want to hear environmental

> sound you simply increase sens. The sound from the audio device remains the

> same. If you want to increase both, you raise volume. There is no need for

> a mix, and I am not even sure that there is such a thing as when mixing t

> coil/mic because by default, one can control their own mix using sens and/or

> volume.

>

> So, with sens at zero, its 100% audio deivce. As you raise sens, you

> mix more and more mic.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> I installed a skylight in my apartment... The people who live above me are

> furious!

> & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

[Guest guest]

That's right, I too have an EA mix...see my earlier post about 10:1 ratio,

etc...ok I'll stop

posting about this now LOL

Deb

> >

> > Judy,

> > The mixing your audi does is only for t coil. When you use accessory

> > cables, you do your own mixing by changing sens or volume.

> >

> > With sens at zero, you hear the audio device 100% and mic 0%. As you

> > raise sens, you increase mic. The audio device remains at the same level.

> > Adjust volume tho and you adjust both the mic and audio device.

> >

> > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> > If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?

> > & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

> > Newport, Oregon

> > N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> > rclark0276@

> > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

With the Advanced Bionics BTE processors, one can chose to have the BTE

mic active along with the " aux " input (e.g. the direct connect cable),

so that enviromental sounds still come thru. the BTE mic while the

direct connect cable get the i-Pod input.

The settings are programmed by your audie.

p.s. - direct connect is ONLY for battery powered devices - NEVER

direct connect to a 120V powered device - a power surge could damage

the CI.

Regards,

Jm S.

>

> I have a question for all the unilaterally implanted people who use

IPods

> with a patch cord into the processor. Doesn't that eliminate

> environmental sounds as well? Aren't you afriad you're going to miss

> something by using a direct connect? Like the doorbell ringing, phone

> ringing, etc.? I've rarely used the direct connect, mainly because I

> don't like cords, but also because I don't want o miss out on what is

> going on around me. Can you set the cord to give you some of the

> surrounding sounds? Or is is 100% music from the Ipod, etc?

>

> I generally just use a CD player in the background, don't connect

> directly to it.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok so it is possible to program a mix into a program when using DAI.

Just wonder tho what EA means to you. Its just a visual indicator on the

display when one enables an accessory after plugging in a cable

Deb, the program I use is left at the default of 9 for volume. When I

set sens to zero and listen to my mp3 player, I hear only the player.

Bumping it up to 1 is enough to bring in environmental sound.

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I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes, because I know I'm not

dumb...and I also know that I'm not blonde.

--Dolly Parton

& Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Cochlear makes a cable specificaly for use with AC powered devices. Its

still direct connect, using either cable.

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Half the people you know are below average.

--

& Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

, I don't know who you are addressing, but if I understand your

question, to me EA means that the external accessory has become

enabled. Then I know I can push any of my programs to get the mix

I want when listening to my CD player or other audio device. Generally

I choose the 2:1 ratio when walking so as to hear the music louder than

the traffic passing by me. In the house where it's generally quieter I

choose yet again another mix.

Judy

>

> Ok so it is possible to program a mix into a program when using DAI.

> Just wonder tho what EA means to you. Its just a visual indicator on the

> display when one enables an accessory after plugging in a cable

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

" ...to me EA means that the external accessory has become enabled. "

Exactly. EA means 'external accessory'.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.

& Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

my good man,

Are you saying the direct connect cord works via the telecoil, so if

you're set at a percentage for telecoil, the IPOD would work the same

way? I thought it just went right into the processor, not via the

telecoil.

Not that I have an IPOD, mind you, just curious as to how the critter

works.

thanks,

, good question you ask.

You can ask your audiologist to set your T at 100% (if you wish NOT to

hear any background noise) or any percentage thereof to be able to

hear the background noise (like 50%:50%, etc.). I make sure that I

use my iPod only at home, in a quiet room. Never outside. Certainly

not riding a bicycle like some idiots out there, practically asking

for an accident.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hey Judy in Jax,

Live and learn. Who knew you could program a percentage for input.

Teach me to play with the toys that come with the kit.

Only time I've used the cable was when I was flying and wanted to

watch the movie. Any announcements they make come through anyway. " That

bumpy landing wasn't the pilot's fault, it wasn't the ground crew's

fault, it was the asphalt. " One of my favorites.

Thanks, When the snow gets up to my pedestal, I'll have to shovel.

, it's me, your friend from down below (the pedestal). Heh, heh.

Are you talking about a personal audio cable? I use mine for the CD

player

or on the airplane to listen to the movies. My EA is programmed in all

four slots: P1. 75% - 25% P2. %50 - %50 etc. This way I can hear the

music or movie conversation and still hear around me. Seems safer

to me that way. Forget about using my t-coil on the plane. Such

interference! Can't they tone down the noise? :-)

Judy in Jax

[Guest guest]

Manual? there was a manual that came with this? LOL. Of course try to

find it. I just found my backup 3G that was mapped in September of 2006.

I put it somewhere and just came across it this week. Everything shows

up eventually. If I cleaned more often, eventually would be more often

as well.

Thanks,

,

Ever read the manual? LOL With the audio cable connected, and sens set

to zero, no environmental sound is heard. If you want to hear

environmental

sound you simply increase sens. The sound from the audio device remains

the

same. If you want to increase both, you raise volume. There is no need

for

a mix, and I am not even sure that there is such a thing as when mixing t

coil/mic because by default, one can control their own mix using sens

and/or

volume.

So, with sens at zero, its 100% audio deivce. As you raise sens, you

mix more and more mic.

[Guest guest]

LOL . You really need to clean house more often. Be amazed at

what you find. And read the manual, be amazed at what you learn. LOL

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Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

& Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

, I am very sorry. Now *this* *is* *a* *public* apology!

You're right. My mistake.

When I checked into this some more, you press the button till you get

the T to show up on the Freedom processor window. So yes, you can ask

your audi to make that any percentage any way you want, so that you

can either hear yourself speak on the phone OR not. (At first I was

perturbed that I couldn't hear myself speak on the phone, so my

audiologist changed that from 100% to 50%:50%). This has NOTHING to

do with the iPod.

When you plug in the direct audio accessory, depending on how you've

set up your S, you can hear a little, some or a lot of what is going

on about you, so is correct as well.

As you know, I'm not used to having 4 different programs on my new

Freedom upgrade, all of which can be adjusted for the T, with

adjustable V and S. Wow, a big step up from my old 3G with only two

programs, and I had to make a choice whether to adjust the V or the S,

and thus my T wasn't as conveniently used.

still learning how to use his new Freedom upgrade for the N24

On Dec 12, 2007 8:24 PM, M Jansen <nucleus24@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> my good man,

> Are you saying the direct connect cord works via the telecoil, so if

> you're set at a percentage for telecoil, the IPOD would work the same

> way? I thought it just went right into the processor, not via the

> telecoil.

> Not that I have an IPOD, mind you, just curious as to how the critter

> works.

> thanks,

>

>

> , good question you ask.

>

> You can ask your audiologist to set your T at 100% (if you wish NOT to

> hear any background noise) or any percentage thereof to be able to

> hear the background noise (like 50%:50%, etc.). I make sure that I

> use my iPod only at home, in a quiet room. Never outside. Certainly

> not riding a bicycle like some idiots out there, practically asking

> for an accident.

>

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

T-coil is the most popular ALD that is widely used in Scandinvia and

the UK I have an hearing aid that switches on the " T " coil mode. It

also helps with the use of telephone. Just go to Google and look up

Loop System. I had my church installed a loop system, and my HA

automatically switches to that Mode.

Alfred Tsang

****************************

On Dec 12, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Lehfeldt wrote:

> , I am very sorry. Now *this* *is* *a* *public* apology!

>

> You're right. My mistake.

>

> When I checked into this some more, you press the button till you get

> the T to show up on the Freedom processor window. So yes, you can ask

> your audi to make that any percentage any way you want, so that you

> can either hear yourself speak on the phone OR not. (At first I was

> perturbed that I couldn't hear myself speak on the phone, so my

> audiologist changed that from 100% to 50%:50%). This has NOTHING to

> do with the iPod.

>

> When you plug in the direct audio accessory, depending on how you've

> set up your S, you can hear a little, some or a lot of what is going

> on about you, so is correct as well.

>

> As you know, I'm not used to having 4 different programs on my new

> Freedom upgrade, all of which can be adjusted for the T, with

> adjustable V and S. Wow, a big step up from my old 3G with only two

> programs, and I had to make a choice whether to adjust the V or the S,

> and thus my T wasn't as conveniently used.

>

> still learning how to use his new Freedom upgrade for the N24

>

> On Dec 12, 2007 8:24 PM, M Jansen <nucleus24@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > my good man,

> > Are you saying the direct connect cord works via the telecoil, so if

> > you're set at a percentage for telecoil, the IPOD would work the

> same

> > way? I thought it just went right into the processor, not via the

> > telecoil.

> > Not that I have an IPOD, mind you, just curious as to how the

> critter

> > works.

> > thanks,

> >

> >

> > , good question you ask.

> >

> > You can ask your audiologist to set your T at 100% (if you wish NOT

> to

> > hear any background noise) or any percentage thereof to be able to

> > hear the background noise (like 50%:50%, etc.). I make sure that I

> > use my iPod only at home, in a quiet room. Never outside. Certainly

> > not riding a bicycle like some idiots out there, practically asking

> > for an accident.

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

you are a good man to apologize to for your

mistake, in public, no less. There's so much information

to absorb, it's seems we will never learn it all.

Judy In Jax

>

> , I am very sorry. Now *this* *is* *a* *public* apology!

>

> You're right. My mistake.

>

[Guest guest]

, who knew, who knew? Not me that's for sure. I didn't get

it from a manual. I have a female friend who was implanted a

month after me, but she has a geek brain. She clued me into that

and off I ran to my audi with my newfound information.

Heh, heh. I have a shovel in my garage that I brought down

from NY and have NO need for it at present. Heh, heh.

Judy

>

> Hey Judy in Jax,

> Live and learn. Who knew you could program a percentage for input.

> Teach me to play with the toys that come with the kit.

> Only time I've used the cable was when I was flying and wanted to

> watch the movie. Any announcements they make come through anyway. " That

> bumpy landing wasn't the pilot's fault, it wasn't the ground crew's

> fault, it was the asphalt. " One of my favorites.

> Thanks, When the snow gets up to my pedestal, I'll have to shovel.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those of you who are wondering to get an iPod. Wow -- when I

turned down the S and increased the V, I was able to lessen the

background noise/cut down on the ambient noise and hear " more " of the

music and AVT audio on my iPod. Music has never been this good before

in my prelingual profoundly deaf life.

So if you're wondering to get an iPod for yourself or putting it on a

wish list for loved ones to get you, go for it!

Chris

On Dec 12, 2007 10:21 PM, Judy G. <judy40@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , who knew, who knew? Not me that's for sure. I didn't get

> it from a manual. I have a female friend who was implanted a

> month after me, but she has a geek brain. She clued me into that

> and off I ran to my audi with my newfound information.

>

> Heh, heh. I have a shovel in my garage that I brought down

> from NY and have NO need for it at present. Heh, heh.

>

> Judy

>

>

>

> >

> > Hey Judy in Jax,

> > Live and learn. Who knew you could program a percentage for input.

> > Teach me to play with the toys that come with the kit.

> > Only time I've used the cable was when I was flying and wanted to

> > watch the movie. Any announcements they make come through anyway. " That

> > bumpy landing wasn't the pilot's fault, it wasn't the ground crew's

> > fault, it was the asphalt. " One of my favorites.

> > Thanks, When the snow gets up to my pedestal, I'll have to shovel.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb, you wild Gypsy woman,

NOT caring if you hear the doorbell or phone? I don't care about

those either, but opportunity as we know, only knocks once. And smoke

and fire alarms are probably something well worth hearing.

I see I opened the proverbial can of worms with this question, and

since I will most likely never own an IPod, it was just a case of

curiousity. I still don't have a cell phone, or cable TV, so practically

living in the dark ages. LOL And that is JUST the way I like it.

Thanks for the input.

Hi !

I am one of those people...and I don't care if I miss the doorbell or the

telephone LOL

Seriously, you can have it programmed so that you have a mix just like

you can get a t-coil

mix. In fact, I tried to get it so I can't get any environmental sound,

and it's not

possible...audie tried and tried and spoke with Cochlear and it seems

that the best you can

get is a 10:1 ratio, which is still pretty good.

I can only think that they designed it this way for safety's sake.

Deb

[Guest guest]

Hi Jm (did you alter the spelling of your name?)

I was referring to direct connect as a generic term for plugging some

external device into the processor. Whatever the heck the cords are

called. You can see how often I use them - which is to say NEVER! LOL.

Thanks for the input on how the AB device works. It makes sense that

you wouldn't want to block all noise from the environment, especially if

you're like me an unilaterally implanted with no hearing in the other

ear.

Thanks,

Hi !

With the Advanced Bionics BTE processors, one can chose to have the BTE

mic active along with the " aux " input (e.g. the direct connect cable),

so that enviromental sounds still come thru. the BTE mic while the

direct connect cable get the i-Pod input.

The settings are programmed by your audie.

p.s. - direct connect is ONLY for battery powered devices - NEVER

direct connect to a 120V powered device - a power surge could damage

the CI.

Regards,

Jm S.

[Guest guest]

, it's good to know that there is one other person in the world

living in the dark ages <g>.

Virg

> I still don't have a cell phone, or cable TV, so practically

> living in the dark ages. LOL And that is JUST the way I like it.

[Guest guest]

Virg and ,

If you are using computers then you are not in the dark ages, maybe the

twilight years but not dark. LOL

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The trouble with life is, you're halfway through it before you realize it's

a do-it-yourself thing.

& Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

Or maybe just not " hip " . ;>)

Virg

> Virg and ,

> If you are using computers then you are not in the dark ages,

maybe the

> twilight years but not dark. LOL

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> The trouble with life is, you're halfway through it before you

realize it's

> a do-it-yourself thing.

> & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To people considering iPods, you can get great hearing practice, for free,

in podcasts. I get my news from NPR podcasts and spiff up my grammar with

the Grammar Girl podcast. You can get gardening tips, business stories,

book reviews, religious sermons, etc. I download them all for free with

iTunes. And even though I have an older processor with no mixing, I'm happy

to turn off the sounds of the rest of the world to connect directly to my

phone, cell phone, iPod, or any ALD I can find. I can listen to my iPod

while doing any number of loud household tasks without hearing the

background noise at all. I also bring my iPod to my audiologist's office

when I'm getting mapped. I have a hard time telling if a map is " good " in

her quiet, sterile office. With my iPod, I can plug in & listen to some

music or a podcast while I'm there to help me figure out if I like the map.

Jill