Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dr. Cunningham: You are quite knowledgable and I really need some help here with an issue of food allergies and testing. With all the expenses we've had with our son, who has autism among other disabilities, we have teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. This year, my oral iron stopped working and my ferritin level dropped to 4 and my serum iron went down to 26 and I needed to get 5 weeks of weekly IV infusions of iron. My rheumatologist who used to be an in-network doctor, his office told me before I started the treatment that all I would owe was my co-pay for each visit. When the treatments were done and they filed, I noticed they started going to my out of network $5000 deductible. My treatments, including office visits and labs, are close to $3500-4000. I called my insurance thinking surely this was a mistake, but apparently he didn't sign his new contract in January and his office never told me he was no longer participating. Obviously if he had been, I would have asked to have the treatments done as an outpatient in the hospital. For someone who has been told I need to reduce stress in my life, this definitely isn't helping me. I tell you this because this has tipped the balance of our teetering into a very bad downward spiral and even if I paid them $100 a month, it is going to take me 3 years to get them paid off. My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. Tests you are mentioning here seem to cost a lot less money, ones that with some budget cutting, it seems that I maybe could afford. I had a doctor who would order tests from Great Plains before for leaky gut but now he is into helping pain patients only so he isn't doing any chronic yeast issues anymore. I'm doing all the things I should diet wise for chronic yeast, but my immune system and my endocrine system are incredibly stressed out constantly. Things he has tried to give me in the past to help those (supplements) did absolutely nothing. I can't do homeopathy because I'm allergic to the alcohol medium and trying to burn the alcohol off wasn't good enough. To say the least I'm a challenging case. I've gotten the most benefit from a practitioner of craniosacral therapy, body talk, Psy-K, EFT, and a whole bunch of other things she has much training for. But the weight loss won't happen (even at 1000 calories a day or less) and the cortisol and insulin levels still are high because I'm in a constant state of stress. I'm not asking you to sort all that out. I just thought you needed some background information in order to get a full picture. Are there tests that would show food allergies that are cheaper that I could possibly counteroffer to him (if he is open to that)? Are you familiar with this lab and/or test to say it is the best one possible and worth $1000? You know how there are things out there that are just crap that people, even doctors, can get talked into using. Could you tell me what the specific test names are and what the labs are that you think are good to do for food allergies that won't cause me to lose my house? If you are uncomfortable answering any of this, please feel free to decline. I would not take offense. I felt like I didn't have anything to lose by asking. Hilda **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Nagla: My diet consists of vegetables and proteins. I take a Digest Enzyme called Digest Gold by Enzymedica that has amylase, protease, lipase, cellulase, invertase, lactace, maltase, glycoamylase, alpha galactosidase, phytase/pectinase, xylanase, hemicellulase (I think I need reading glasses!--these little words are hard to read), beta glucanase, lactobacillus acidophilus. I also take Ultimate Flora Critical Cre by Renew Life that has 50 billion active cultures and contains 10 strains of microflora (lots of different Lactobacillus species in there). I just discovered the mouthwash my dentist wanted me to use because my mouth is always dry from the yeast has sorbitol in it and she said I needed to produce more saliva, so I've stopped that. I was told no dairy (including yogurt), no grains. I've decided to add back plain fat-free organic yogurt to my diet as of Wednesday. I'll see what that does for me. I don't use artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. The protein (except the whey) is organic. I try to buy organic vegetables, too, depending upon what is available. I'll look into the colostrum or perhaps switch my other ones. Thanks for the help. We've gotta keep ourselves well to take care of all we need to for our kiddos. Hilda **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Nagla: My diet consists of vegetables and proteins. I take a Digest Enzyme called Digest Gold by Enzymedica that has amylase, protease, lipase, cellulase, invertase, lactace, maltase, glycoamylase, alpha galactosidase, phytase/pectinase, xylanase, hemicellulase (I think I need reading glasses!--these little words are hard to read), beta glucanase, lactobacillus acidophilus. I also take Ultimate Flora Critical Cre by Renew Life that has 50 billion active cultures and contains 10 strains of microflora (lots of different Lactobacillus species in there). I just discovered the mouthwash my dentist wanted me to use because my mouth is always dry from the yeast has sorbitol in it and she said I needed to produce more saliva, so I've stopped that. I was told no dairy (including yogurt), no grains. I've decided to add back plain fat-free organic yogurt to my diet as of Wednesday. I'll see what that does for me. I don't use artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. The protein (except the whey) is organic. I try to buy organic vegetables, too, depending upon what is available. I'll look into the colostrum or perhaps switch my other ones. Thanks for the help. We've gotta keep ourselves well to take care of all we need to for our kiddos. Hilda **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dr Cunningham: Yeah, that is only a drop in the bucket of my medical history. If 11:00 a.m. is good for you on Friday, I will call. In the meantime, I'm going to check my insurance plan and see if any chiropractors are on my list and maybe you might know of them. I think my doctor " dabbling " and not having a full picture might be part of the problem, but he's been my doctor for 16 years now, so it's hard to switch especially with my extensive history. Hilda In a message dated 7/30/2008 3:39:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeff@... writes: Hilda that is a LOT of information to process online and would take me hours to answer, but I will be in my office on Friday. I will be glad to give you input at any time you wish to call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinicwww. , TX **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dr Cunningham: Yeah, that is only a drop in the bucket of my medical history. If 11:00 a.m. is good for you on Friday, I will call. In the meantime, I'm going to check my insurance plan and see if any chiropractors are on my list and maybe you might know of them. I think my doctor " dabbling " and not having a full picture might be part of the problem, but he's been my doctor for 16 years now, so it's hard to switch especially with my extensive history. Hilda In a message dated 7/30/2008 3:39:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeff@... writes: Hilda that is a LOT of information to process online and would take me hours to answer, but I will be in my office on Friday. I will be glad to give you input at any time you wish to call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinicwww. , TX **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Sofia: Well, well, well. That is quite the mark-up, isn't it? That makes me a bit angry because he knows the situation I'm in, he's been my doctor for almost 16 years, and I understand that he has a business to run, but...okay I'm not going there. He's not on my insurance but I've continued to go to him (he initially was) because I liked him a lot. Cash patient basically. Where is the compassion to say, " I'll just charge you cost for this one test because I really think it's important and the office visit when you come back to discuss it. " Seeing him has also contributed to my debt load. There are some chiropractors on my plan so hopefully Dr. Cunningham might know a name or two on the list. Obviously this points to having to make a change. Thank you so much for this link. Good to know that someone who used the lab felt the lab was valid and relevant. Hilda In a message dated 7/30/2008 6:05:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sofiagh365@... writes: Hilda, I had my IgG testing done through Immuno Laboratories. It really hit the mark. I got the answers that I had been looking for. You can order this test for MUCH cheaper than what your doctor is quoting by ordering the test online. They send you the kit, they give a list of locations that you can go get the blood pulled at. They collect the sample and send it in. _http://www.directlahttp://www.direchttp://www.dir_ (http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#immunolab) I have used directlabs.com for several tests and have been pleased with the entire experience. You could always share the results with the provider after they come in. Best Regards, Sofia --- In _Texas-Autism-Texas-AutTexas-AutismTex_ (mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ) , HildaBowen@., Hil > > > My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test > trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, > Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is > from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line > and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might > have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He > told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by > my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously > after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Sofia: Well, well, well. That is quite the mark-up, isn't it? That makes me a bit angry because he knows the situation I'm in, he's been my doctor for almost 16 years, and I understand that he has a business to run, but...okay I'm not going there. He's not on my insurance but I've continued to go to him (he initially was) because I liked him a lot. Cash patient basically. Where is the compassion to say, " I'll just charge you cost for this one test because I really think it's important and the office visit when you come back to discuss it. " Seeing him has also contributed to my debt load. There are some chiropractors on my plan so hopefully Dr. Cunningham might know a name or two on the list. Obviously this points to having to make a change. Thank you so much for this link. Good to know that someone who used the lab felt the lab was valid and relevant. Hilda In a message dated 7/30/2008 6:05:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sofiagh365@... writes: Hilda, I had my IgG testing done through Immuno Laboratories. It really hit the mark. I got the answers that I had been looking for. You can order this test for MUCH cheaper than what your doctor is quoting by ordering the test online. They send you the kit, they give a list of locations that you can go get the blood pulled at. They collect the sample and send it in. _http://www.directlahttp://www.direchttp://www.dir_ (http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#immunolab) I have used directlabs.com for several tests and have been pleased with the entire experience. You could always share the results with the provider after they come in. Best Regards, Sofia --- In _Texas-Autism-Texas-AutTexas-AutismTex_ (mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ) , HildaBowen@., Hil > > > My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test > trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, > Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is > from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line > and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might > have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He > told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by > my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously > after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hilda, I am not a physician, but I do a lot of supplement research. Hydroxy form of B-12 is helpful for iron deficiency. Food based iron is easily absorbed more so than other forms of iron Colostrum is very helpful for immune system boosting as well as healing the gut. Klaire Labs makes some great probiotics that can be helpful with yeast. Candex or Candidase are also very good enzymes that help eliminate yeast. Taking enzymes that help break down carbohydrates, fats and proteins before every meal is also very helpful for yeast and digestion. At my house we all use Dr. Houston's enzymes (Peptizyde, Zyme Prime and No Fenol). Just some ideas that might be helpful. Hope you feel better soon. Nagla > > Dr. Cunningham: > > You are quite knowledgable and I really need some help here with an issue of > food allergies and testing. > > With all the expenses we've had with our son, who has autism among other > disabilities, we have teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. This year, my oral > iron stopped working and my ferritin level dropped to 4 and my serum iron went > down to 26 and I needed to get 5 weeks of weekly IV infusions of iron. My > rheumatologist who used to be an in-network doctor, his office told me before > I started the treatment that all I would owe was my co-pay for each visit. > When the treatments were done and they filed, I noticed they started going to > my out of network $5000 deductible. My treatments, including office visits > and labs, are close to $3500-4000. I called my insurance thinking surely this > was a mistake, but apparently he didn't sign his new contract in January and > his office never told me he was no longer participating. Obviously if he > had been, I would have asked to have the treatments done as an outpatient in > the hospital. For someone who has been told I need to reduce stress in my > life, this definitely isn't helping me. I tell you this because this has tipped > the balance of our teetering into a very bad downward spiral and even if I > paid them $100 a month, it is going to take me 3 years to get them paid off. > > My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test > trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, > Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is > from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line > and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might > have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He > told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by > my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously > after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. > > Tests you are mentioning here seem to cost a lot less money, ones that with > some budget cutting, it seems that I maybe could afford. I had a doctor who > would order tests from Great Plains before for leaky gut but now he is into > helping pain patients only so he isn't doing any chronic yeast issues anymore. > I'm doing all the things I should diet wise for chronic yeast, but my > immune system and my endocrine system are incredibly stressed out constantly. > Things he has tried to give me in the past to help those (supplements) did > absolutely nothing. I can't do homeopathy because I'm allergic to the alcohol > medium and trying to burn the alcohol off wasn't good enough. To say the least > I'm a challenging case. I've gotten the most benefit from a practitioner of > craniosacral therapy, body talk, Psy-K, EFT, and a whole bunch of other > things she has much training for. But the weight loss won't happen (even at 1000 > calories a day or less) and the cortisol and insulin levels still are high > because I'm in a constant state of stress. I'm not asking you to sort all that > out. I just thought you needed some background information in order to get > a full picture. > > Are there tests that would show food allergies that are cheaper that I could > possibly counteroffer to him (if he is open to that)? Are you familiar with > this lab and/or test to say it is the best one possible and worth $1000? > You know how there are things out there that are just crap that people, even > doctors, can get talked into using. Could you tell me what the specific test > names are and what the labs are that you think are good to do for food > allergies that won't cause me to lose my house? > > If you are uncomfortable answering any of this, please feel free to decline. > I would not take offense. I felt like I didn't have anything to lose by > asking. > > > Hilda > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hilda that is a LOT of information to process online and would take me hours to answer, but I will be in my office on Friday. I will be glad to give you input at any time you wish to call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinic.com , TX Re: IgG Testing Dr. Cunningham: You are quite knowledgable and I really need some help here with an issue of food allergies and testing. With all the expenses we've had with our son, who has autism among other disabilities, we have teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. This year, my oral iron stopped working and my ferritin level dropped to 4 and my serum iron went down to 26 and I needed to get 5 weeks of weekly IV infusions of iron. My rheumatologist who used to be an in-network doctor, his office told me before I started the treatment that all I would owe was my co-pay for each visit. When the treatments were done and they filed, I noticed they started going to my out of network $5000 deductible. My treatments, including office visits and labs, are close to $3500-4000. I called my insurance thinking surely this was a mistake, but apparently he didn't sign his new contract in January and his office never told me he was no longer participating. Obviously if he had been, I would have asked to have the treatments done as an outpatient in the hospital. For someone who has been told I need to reduce stress in my life, this definitely isn't helping me. I tell you this because this has tipped the balance of our teetering into a very bad downward spiral and even if I paid them $100 a month, it is going to take me 3 years to get them paid off. My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. Tests you are mentioning here seem to cost a lot less money, ones that with some budget cutting, it seems that I maybe could afford. I had a doctor who would order tests from Great Plains before for leaky gut but now he is into helping pain patients only so he isn't doing any chronic yeast issues anymore. I'm doing all the things I should diet wise for chronic yeast, but my immune system and my endocrine system are incredibly stressed out constantly. Things he has tried to give me in the past to help those (supplements) did absolutely nothing. I can't do homeopathy because I'm allergic to the alcohol medium and trying to burn the alcohol off wasn't good enough. To say the least I'm a challenging case. I've gotten the most benefit from a practitioner of craniosacral therapy, body talk, Psy-K, EFT, and a whole bunch of other things she has much training for. But the weight loss won't happen (even at 1000 calories a day or less) and the cortisol and insulin levels still are high because I'm in a constant state of stress. I'm not asking you to sort all that out. I just thought you needed some background information in order to get a full picture. Are there tests that would show food allergies that are cheaper that I could possibly counteroffer to him (if he is open to that)? Are you familiar with this lab and/or test to say it is the best one possible and worth $1000? You know how there are things out there that are just crap that people, even doctors, can get talked into using. Could you tell me what the specific test names are and what the labs are that you think are good to do for food allergies that won't cause me to lose my house? If you are uncomfortable answering any of this, please feel free to decline. I would not take offense. I felt like I didn't have anything to lose by asking. Hilda **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hilda that is a LOT of information to process online and would take me hours to answer, but I will be in my office on Friday. I will be glad to give you input at any time you wish to call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinic.com , TX Re: IgG Testing Dr. Cunningham: You are quite knowledgable and I really need some help here with an issue of food allergies and testing. With all the expenses we've had with our son, who has autism among other disabilities, we have teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. This year, my oral iron stopped working and my ferritin level dropped to 4 and my serum iron went down to 26 and I needed to get 5 weeks of weekly IV infusions of iron. My rheumatologist who used to be an in-network doctor, his office told me before I started the treatment that all I would owe was my co-pay for each visit. When the treatments were done and they filed, I noticed they started going to my out of network $5000 deductible. My treatments, including office visits and labs, are close to $3500-4000. I called my insurance thinking surely this was a mistake, but apparently he didn't sign his new contract in January and his office never told me he was no longer participating. Obviously if he had been, I would have asked to have the treatments done as an outpatient in the hospital. For someone who has been told I need to reduce stress in my life, this definitely isn't helping me. I tell you this because this has tipped the balance of our teetering into a very bad downward spiral and even if I paid them $100 a month, it is going to take me 3 years to get them paid off. My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. Tests you are mentioning here seem to cost a lot less money, ones that with some budget cutting, it seems that I maybe could afford. I had a doctor who would order tests from Great Plains before for leaky gut but now he is into helping pain patients only so he isn't doing any chronic yeast issues anymore. I'm doing all the things I should diet wise for chronic yeast, but my immune system and my endocrine system are incredibly stressed out constantly. Things he has tried to give me in the past to help those (supplements) did absolutely nothing. I can't do homeopathy because I'm allergic to the alcohol medium and trying to burn the alcohol off wasn't good enough. To say the least I'm a challenging case. I've gotten the most benefit from a practitioner of craniosacral therapy, body talk, Psy-K, EFT, and a whole bunch of other things she has much training for. But the weight loss won't happen (even at 1000 calories a day or less) and the cortisol and insulin levels still are high because I'm in a constant state of stress. I'm not asking you to sort all that out. I just thought you needed some background information in order to get a full picture. Are there tests that would show food allergies that are cheaper that I could possibly counteroffer to him (if he is open to that)? Are you familiar with this lab and/or test to say it is the best one possible and worth $1000? You know how there are things out there that are just crap that people, even doctors, can get talked into using. Could you tell me what the specific test names are and what the labs are that you think are good to do for food allergies that won't cause me to lose my house? If you are uncomfortable answering any of this, please feel free to decline. I would not take offense. I felt like I didn't have anything to lose by asking. Hilda **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I found that there were big differences. Things that registered on the prick test as highly sensitive or allergic, did not register on the blood test of the IgA or IgM. The IgG blood test seemed to almost always match the skin prick. Subject: Re: IgG Testing To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:29 AM Did you find it useful in determining food intolerances? Was your allergist helpful in recommending dietary changes? I don't mind paying $170 for the testing, but I guess I want to make sure someone qualified can help me know what to do with the information gained from the testing. Thanks, Molly > > > > > > > > My 5 year old has an excess hunger. He gets feed 3 big meals per > > day > > > > plus 3 snacks in between meals. Lately he has been really bad. > > He is > > > > now biting his hands and asking for food every minute of the day. > > > > > > > > Has anyone been in the same situation, if so what do you do > > about it? > > > > > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > CP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I will be there awaiting your call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinic.com , TX Re: IgG Testing Dr Cunningham: Yeah, that is only a drop in the bucket of my medical history. If 11:00 a.m. is good for you on Friday, I will call. In the meantime, I'm going to check my insurance plan and see if any chiropractors are on my list and maybe you might know of them. I think my doctor " dabbling " and not having a full picture might be part of the problem, but he's been my doctor for 16 years now, so it's hard to switch especially with my extensive history. Hilda In a message dated 7/30/2008 3:39:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeff@... writes: Hilda that is a LOT of information to process online and would take me hours to answer, but I will be in my office on Friday. I will be glad to give you input at any time you wish to call. Jeff Cunningham, DC www.zoesplaceclinicwww. , TX **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hilda, I had my IgG testing done through Immuno Laboratories. It really hit the mark. I got the answers that I had been looking for. You can order this test for MUCH cheaper than what your doctor is quoting by ordering the test online. They send you the kit, they give a list of locations that you can go get the blood pulled at. They collect the sample and send it in. http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#immunolab I have used directlabs.com for several tests and have been pleased with the entire experience. You could always share the results with the provider after they come in. Best Regards, Sofia > > > My doctor is dabbling in holistic medicine and he wants to do a test > trademarked as Immuno I Bloodprint from Immuno Laboratories in Fort Lauderdale, > Florida for " Toxic Food Syndrome. " He gave me a little book to read and it is > from BetterHealth USA written by the lab who does the testing. I went on-line > and some people said the test costs $600-ish. That was an ouch, but I might > have been able to do it if he let me make payments over a few months. He > told me on Friday that the test is actually $1000 and this won't be covered by > my insurance or even go towards an out of network deductible. Obviously > after reading what happened with the above, I can't fork out $1000. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Actually, some new research that was just published may explain why the gluten/casein issue may NOT show up as an IgG or IgE reaction. Turns out that researchers just identified the process in celiac mice. . . . ..apparently the gluten causes a protein to be excreted that makes the intestinal walls more permeable—not a IgG or IgE reaction AT ALL—so it would never show up on a test. What complicates the issue in my mind is that some kids may have an ADDITIONAL IgG or IgE reaction to wheat and milk (they are 2 of the top 5 allergens in children after all). While I realize, celiac doesn’t show up in most of the children who are on GFCF (my son tested as negative, but he is a STRONG responder to the GFCF diet), I suspect the mechanism is very, very similar. The actual research abstract link is: HYPERLINK " http://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(08)00459-9/abstract " http:// www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(08)00459-9/abstract THURSDAY, July 24 (HealthDay News) -- Researchers believe they have finally answered a basic question about the cause of celiac disease -- where in the body does the wheat protein gluten enter one's system? A study published in the July issue of Gastroenterology identifies the CXCR3 receptor in the intestine as a gluten gateway. When people with celiac disease eat gluten, the protein triggers their immune system to attack the body, causing a wide range of serious health problems. " This is a scientific question that had never been answered before, " Dr. Alessio Fasano, medical director of the Center for Celiac Research at the University of land School of Medicine, said in an university news release. " It is not only significant in the basic science of autoimmune disorders such as celiac disease, but in therapeutic approaches for the future. This opens a new scientific paradigm for the study of immunity. " I still think the “traditional” western approach has so far to go in its understanding of allergies and basic food issues. . . . that’s why I’m so glad I’ve found a really good practitioner or NAET. S. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My son did not test IgE or IgG sensitive to neither gluten nor casein, yet putting him on that diet was very helpful and made such a difference in his health and behavior. For gluten and casein, urine peptide testing is more accurate and even that misses 20% of kids who can benefit from the G/F, C/F diet. Parent survey on the ARI site shows that out of 2561 replies 66% said that the G/F, C/F diet had a positive effect on their children. It's definitely worth a try. HYPERLINK " http://www.autism.com/treatable/form34qr.htm " http://www.autism.com/treatabl e/form34qr.htm Nagla > > Did you find it useful in determining food intolerances? Was your > allergist helpful in recommending dietary changes? I don't mind > paying $170 for the testing, but I guess I want to make sure someone No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 6:37 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Allestess will do the IgG test for $85 unless you want the diet into to then it is about $129 - close to metametrix price. The test is no difficult to read. Each food that shows a reaction shows +1,2,3,4,or 5. Just remove the 4s and 5s and rotate the others. some may want to eliminate the 3s too. > > Did you find it useful in determining food intolerances? Was your > allergist helpful in recommending dietary changes? I don't mind > paying $170 for the testing, but I guess I want to make sure someone > qualified can help me know what to do with the information gained > from the testing. > > Thanks, > Molly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Allestess will do the IgG test for $85 unless you want the diet into to then it is about $129 - close to metametrix price. The test is no difficult to read. Each food that shows a reaction shows +1,2,3,4,or 5. Just remove the 4s and 5s and rotate the others. some may want to eliminate the 3s too. > > Did you find it useful in determining food intolerances? Was your > allergist helpful in recommending dietary changes? I don't mind > paying $170 for the testing, but I guess I want to make sure someone > qualified can help me know what to do with the information gained > from the testing. > > Thanks, > Molly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 According to Dr. Amy Yasko iron feeds bacteria-she likes lactoferrin. It would kind of freak me out to get iron IVs but I'm not a doctor. > > Nagla: > > My diet consists of vegetables and proteins. I take a Digest Enzyme called > Digest Gold by Enzymedica that has amylase, protease, lipase, cellulase, > invertase, lactace, maltase, glycoamylase, alpha galactosidase, > phytase/pectinase, xylanase, hemicellulase (I think I need reading glasses!--these little > words are hard to read), beta glucanase, lactobacillus acidophilus. > > I also take Ultimate Flora Critical Cre by Renew Life that has 50 billion > active cultures and contains 10 strains of microflora (lots of different > Lactobacillus species in there). > > I just discovered the mouthwash my dentist wanted me to use because my mouth > is always dry from the yeast has sorbitol in it and she said I needed to > produce more saliva, so I've stopped that. > > I was told no dairy (including yogurt), no grains. I've decided to add back > plain fat-free organic yogurt to my diet as of Wednesday. I'll see what > that does for me. > > I don't use artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. The protein (except the > whey) is organic. I try to buy organic vegetables, too, depending upon what is > available. > > I'll look into the colostrum or perhaps switch my other ones. > > Thanks for the help. We've gotta keep ourselves well to take care of all we > need to for our kiddos. > > Hilda > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 According to Dr. Amy Yasko iron feeds bacteria-she likes lactoferrin. It would kind of freak me out to get iron IVs but I'm not a doctor. > > Nagla: > > My diet consists of vegetables and proteins. I take a Digest Enzyme called > Digest Gold by Enzymedica that has amylase, protease, lipase, cellulase, > invertase, lactace, maltase, glycoamylase, alpha galactosidase, > phytase/pectinase, xylanase, hemicellulase (I think I need reading glasses!--these little > words are hard to read), beta glucanase, lactobacillus acidophilus. > > I also take Ultimate Flora Critical Cre by Renew Life that has 50 billion > active cultures and contains 10 strains of microflora (lots of different > Lactobacillus species in there). > > I just discovered the mouthwash my dentist wanted me to use because my mouth > is always dry from the yeast has sorbitol in it and she said I needed to > produce more saliva, so I've stopped that. > > I was told no dairy (including yogurt), no grains. I've decided to add back > plain fat-free organic yogurt to my diet as of Wednesday. I'll see what > that does for me. > > I don't use artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. The protein (except the > whey) is organic. I try to buy organic vegetables, too, depending upon what is > available. > > I'll look into the colostrum or perhaps switch my other ones. > > Thanks for the help. We've gotta keep ourselves well to take care of all we > need to for our kiddos. > > Hilda > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 From my limited understanding of the 2 testing modes, What registers on the prick test is immediate allergies, items that cause an on the spot reaction, what registers on the IgG are delayed reactions to foods, items that don't cause immediate reactions, but once they hit your gut they cause a reaction. Nagla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 5 year old has an excess hunger. He gets feed 3 big meals > > per > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > plus 3 snacks in between meals. Lately he has been really bad. > > > > > > He is > > > > > > > > now biting his hands and asking for food every minute of the > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone been in the same situation, if so what do you do > > > > > > about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > CP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 We reintroduced Wheat, gluten, caisen, milk for month prior to having a Comprehensive Food Allergy Test done at The Great Plains Lab: So guess what was high? >5 1. Peanut-11.55 (one source of omega 3's gone and his new favorite lunch...) 2. Oat-6.55 3. Egg Yolk-6.44 (Bye one non-processed, free range, organic good protein) 4. Coconut (I was so impressed about Coconut oil being sooo good for you!) 5. Almond (Bye Almond milk great antioxidant!) 6. Rice (What the H?) 7. Egg white-5.64 Not high, the stuff I was told to keep away! Apples Gluten, wheat casein (all of them!) So, udderly confused and dismayed! Everything he has been eatting high sensativity. Everything he hasn't low. (Again, we had him eatting the " bad " foods before the test) Should I take him to an allergist to make sure he isn't allergic to peanuts? I have no idea what to do next... Dionne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Bet he has leaky gut this gives you lots of allergys!Has he had any antifungals?Get rid of the yeast looks like SCD diet may work for a while.Then heal the gut.Then add some different foods back. I still would stay away from top 10 allergens.My daughter tested positve for DQ8 gene that shows celiacs we will never do wheat. she also showed no allergy to wheat think we havent had it for 5 yrs now.No playdough please this is all wheat. Take care Deb > > We reintroduced Wheat, gluten, caisen, milk for month prior to having a Comprehensive Food Allergy Test done at The Great Plains Lab: > > So guess what was high? >5 > 1. Peanut-11.55 (one source of omega 3's gone and his new favorite lunch...) > 2. Oat-6.55 > 3. Egg Yolk-6.44 (Bye one non-processed, free range, organic good protein) > 4. Coconut (I was so impressed about Coconut oil being sooo good for you!) > 5. Almond (Bye Almond milk great antioxidant!) > 6. Rice (What the H?) > 7. Egg white-5.64 > > Not high, the stuff I was told to keep away! > Apples > Gluten, wheat > casein (all of them!) > > So, udderly confused and dismayed! Everything he has been eatting high sensativity. Everything he hasn't low. (Again, we had him eatting the " bad " foods before the test) Should I take him to an allergist to make sure he isn't allergic to peanuts? I have no idea what to do next... > > Dionne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dionne I have a nt 7 year old with severe food allergies. His last test showed high on rice, we just keep going. Being wheat free rice is the major sub, also highly allergic to soy and any nuts and will only drink rice milk. If you are having behavior issues, no skin issues, rotate the best you can those things in question. Peanut - a little confused on your note. An Omega 3 with peanuts? If also allergy to soy understand. We are using with success Kirkman Labs Vit E with no issues thankfully. You can also try sunnut butter. My guy doesn't like it but have a friend who's son loves it. And yes, a peanut allergy, gosh, I'd think you would see results if issues right away. A lot of coughing, itching. Keep Benadryl around just to be safe. If wouldn't hurt taking him to an allergist or your ped can order the test. I guess it depends on if you think you can go through a blood draw and do skin testing. If allergic to oats, watch the wheat, no mention of that here. Eggs, maybe just now and again and sub out when can. I guess if he eats them " straight " , rotate. You are right, a great source of protein and a quick easy meal. Still a lot of behavior issues? Doing enzymes? Tammy IGG Testing We reintroduced Wheat, gluten, caisen, milk for month prior to having a Comprehensive Food Allergy Test done at The Great Plains Lab: So guess what was high? >5 1. Peanut-11.55 (one source of omega 3's gone and his new favorite lunch...) 2. Oat-6.55 3. Egg Yolk-6.44 (Bye one non-processed, free range, organic good protein) 4. Coconut (I was so impressed about Coconut oil being sooo good for you!) 5. Almond (Bye Almond milk great antioxidant!) 6. Rice (What the H?) 7. Egg white-5.64 Not high, the stuff I was told to keep away! Apples Gluten, wheat casein (all of them!) So, udderly confused and dismayed! Everything he has been eatting high sensativity. Everything he hasn't low. (Again, we had him eatting the " bad " foods before the test) Should I take him to an allergist to make sure he isn't allergic to peanuts? I have no idea what to do next... Dionne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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