Re: Its been a while...I've got a few questions...

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> *Anyone's child have any issues with calcium supplement? (Kirkman's) It seems

after his dosing he gets a bit irritable...wondering if that is normal???

I wrote in a previous message, what my son needed for proper absorption of

calcium. He was calcium toxic, so at first I did not supplement him at all.

Then I eliminated the toxicity, then I gave him the supplements required for

proper absorption. Your child might have similar issues.

>>Also, should calcium be giving in one dose, or am I thinking of vit D where it

has to be spread out cause it doesn't absorb all at once?

I would not give more than 300-400mg calcium at any one time, the rest won't be

absorbed.

> *Anyone's child have any issues with zinc supplement? (Kirkman's) I know he

needs this...he's high in copper. But it doesn't seem to tolerate this very

well, again like the calcium he becomes irritable. This is in capsule for and I

open it and put in his juice along with the mag c and sometimes the zinc.

Zinc on an empty stomach can cause nausea and vomiting. Give it with food, and

apart from calcium.

> With the calcium I give him Mag citrate. He also has an issue with teeth

grinding at night

This meant mineral deficiency here, my kids needed various minerals [and one

needed vitamin K also] to eliminate this problem. For two of my kids, it also

meant yeast overgrowth.

> What I've noticed, pretty much with ALL supplements, including probiotics, is

he does really well with these things for a few weeks and then becomes very

irritable and angry and has major meltdowns and just has that other side to him

that is very hard to tolerate. Is this a gonna get worse before it gets better

kinda thing??? Or not normal??

It sounds like his body does not have sufficient stores of the other nutrients

required for proper absorption. So he does okay with the supplement until it

depletes his other nutrients, and then he starts doing badly.

Or, the supplement starts creating a yeast issue. Which supplements have caused

problems, and what do you do for yeast control?

Dana

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About the zinc...we give a lot here to my 5 year old-35 lb son. He was very

high copper on his hair test at age 2.5. Our highest was 75mg/day, but we're

currently at 55mg/day. However, we did work up to that amount very slowly and I

give it several times/day, as much as 5X at one point. Currently, DS gets @

18mg at breakfast, 18mg at lunch, and 20 mg at bedtime. When I tried to go

lower to @35mg/day, I got serious chewing behavior, so we are now at the

55mg/day. My son tolerates it very well. Anyway, try breaking up the dosages

to multiple times/day to see if that helps.

I can't help you with the calcium as we've never supplemented it above DS's

multi...he isn't CF.

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> *Anyone's child have any issues with calcium supplement? (Kirkman's) It seems

after his dosing he gets a bit irritable...wondering if that is normal??? Also,

should calcium be giving in one dose, or am I thinking of vit D where it has to

be spread out cause it doesn't absorb all at once? Its in powder form that I

put in his juice or " milk " .

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> *Anyone's child have any issues with zinc supplement? (Kirkman's) I know he

needs this...he's high in copper. But it doesn't seem to tolerate this very

well, again like the calcium he becomes irritable. This is in capsule for and I

open it and put in his juice along with the mag c and sometimes the zinc.

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> I'm wondering...maybe I'm giving too much of these supplements, or the wrong

way, or not comboing it right with another supplement??? He is 3yrs old and 30

lbs. He's hyper and has major meltdowns and a yeast issue.

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> With the calcium I give him Mag citrate. He also has an issue with teeth

grinding at night and a few of you mentioned magnesium serate (sp??) but I can't

seem to find that...the HFS is telling me that is just a filler that is put in

capsules and not really a supplement.

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> What I've noticed, pretty much with ALL supplements, including probiotics, is

he does really well with these things for a few weeks and then becomes very

irritable and angry and has major meltdowns and just has that other side to him

that is very hard to tolerate. Is this a gonna get worse before it gets better

kinda thing??? Or not normal??

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> Maybe there is something else going on that I'm not catching on to.

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> TIA!!! ))

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> " God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change;

> courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference. "

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[Guest guest]

Hi

To help decrease Copper, reducing sources along with giving Zinc, it might be

worth giving bile increasing supps such as Milk Thistle, taurine and/or glycine

along with molybdenum which might help as suggested in the link below.

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

Cheers Kenny

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> > *Anyone's child have any issues with calcium supplement? (Kirkman's) It

seems after his dosing he gets a bit irritable...wondering if that is normal???

Also, should calcium be giving in one dose, or am I thinking of vit D where it

has to be spread out cause it doesn't absorb all at once? Its in powder form

that I put in his juice or " milk " .

> >

> > *Anyone's child have any issues with zinc supplement? (Kirkman's) I know he

needs this...he's high in copper. But it doesn't seem to tolerate this very

well, again like the calcium he becomes irritable. This is in capsule for and I

open it and put in his juice along with the mag c and sometimes the zinc.

> >

> > I'm wondering...maybe I'm giving too much of these supplements, or the wrong

way, or not comboing it right with another supplement??? He is 3yrs old and 30

lbs. He's hyper and has major meltdowns and a yeast issue.

> >

> > With the calcium I give him Mag citrate. He also has an issue with teeth

grinding at night and a few of you mentioned magnesium serate (sp??) but I can't

seem to find that...the HFS is telling me that is just a filler that is put in

capsules and not really a supplement.

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> > What I've noticed, pretty much with ALL supplements, including probiotics,

is he does really well with these things for a few weeks and then becomes very

irritable and angry and has major meltdowns and just has that other side to him

that is very hard to tolerate. Is this a gonna get worse before it gets better

kinda thing??? Or not normal??

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> > Maybe there is something else going on that I'm not catching on to.

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> > TIA!!! ))

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> > " God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change;

> > courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference. "

> >

> > http://fortheloveofmybugs.blogspot.com/

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