Zinc

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I have a question for you all: When I was hyperT, I experienced intense

weakness, anger and anxiety. My thyroid levels have been normal for almost a

year now (I think they're still normal; I haven't been able to get my levels

checked since I started graduate school in Sept.). Lately, I have been

experiencing depression and anxiety, which may or may not be related to my

thyroid. I would like to know if anyone has found a good way to deal

w/depression and anxiety (nutritional, supplements, or medical).

Thanks in advance for any info anyone can send my way.

AntJoan

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Thanks ! I think that makes a lot of sense. I felt really good after

those two weeks that I decreased my zinc to 35 mg. I will go back to that

level.

The Centrum has 15 mg zinc, and 2 mg copper, but I had included those in the

65 mg and 6 mg totals. And you are correct, I have been eating very few

grains.

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Hi to all fellow hairloss MGB, I would like to tell everyone that I

could not take the zinc either. I have had no problem taking the Nioxin

supplements. They are to prevent the hairloss, the company has a variety of

products available through quality hairsalons. A 45 day supply runs approx.

20 dollars. one capsule a day, not hard to take. They are also online.

O.

joeykris2@aol

245/186/140?

2/5/01

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Debbie,

I dont know if you realize this but the thing that Dr.R. sent said we should

be taking zinc sulfate and not zinc glutamate. There is a difference because

I had my pharmacist look them up. I have not been able to fine the zinc

sulfate yet, have to take a trip to GNC one day soon. Most stores have the

zinc glutamate kind.

Dont know if it will make a difference in the way you feel but perhaps its

worth a try.

Just my two cents, lol.

Let me know if anyone found the zinc sulfate and where I can get it , ok

Thanks

Pat Iurato

Nevada

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Marg, The same thing happened to me. I took 200mgs

with breakfast and another 200 at lunch. I was in bed

by 3:00 hoping it would pass through my system

quickly. I don't know whether to try smaller doses,

as I am afraid of another episode like the first.

Needless to say, the hair keeps coming out. I just

wonder if I have enough hair to last the few months it

seems to take. Let us know how it goes when you try a

smaller dose.

Debbie in NC

--- mmhammy@... wrote:

> Hi all,

> just wanted to tell ya all about the terrible day I

> had after taking zinc. I

> had 200mgs in morning in my shake and it seemed to

> do good. then i took 2

> tablets for lunch and omg. I was so sick. I had the

> worst pains in my belly

> up high. I had to spend rest of day in bed and I

> really thought I was dying

> felt like a gall bladder attack only i dont have one

> anymore. so i dont know

> if i will try that again. i will wait a few days and

> take zinc in smaller

> doses i think. he suggests 200 mg 2 x aday. i think

> i try 200 for awhile.

> just some info for the rest i hope no one else had

> this happen. hugs marg the

> really thin haired one lol

>

>

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In a message dated 6/17/2001 11:43:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Mollydo2000@... writes:

> Let us know how it goes when you try a

> smaller dose.

>

I don't know I have turned into a chicken berk berk hugs marg

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where do you find zinc sulfate? all i can find is chelated zinc at GNC.

[Guest guest]

Pat,

Thanks for the tip. I went and checked my bottle. I

did have zinc sulfate. I bought it at the local

pharmacy and it was only $3.43! Great price if your

body can stand it!

Anyway, I got brave and tried one today and did not

have the cramping. I will try working up to the

600mgs very slowly. Thanks

Debbie in NC

--- iseeu25232@... wrote:

> Debbie,

> I dont know if you realize this but the thing that

> Dr.R. sent said we should

> be taking zinc sulfate and not zinc glutamate. There

> is a difference because

> I had my pharmacist look them up. I have not been

> able to fine the zinc

> sulfate yet, have to take a trip to GNC one day

> soon. Most stores have the

> zinc glutamate kind.

> Dont know if it will make a difference in the way

> you feel but perhaps its

> worth a try.

> Just my two cents, lol.

> Let me know if anyone found the zinc sulfate and

> where I can get it , ok

> Thanks

> Pat Iurato

> Nevada

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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I ran it on line and you can buy zinc sulfate at MediChest.com. Its pretty

cheap too, lol

Pat Iurato

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Hi Raph,

I do hope you are feeling a lot better I have been taking zinc for ages for

p and while I am on it I am fine but if I go off it breaks out I was giving

myself a break

every couple of weeks to give the liver a rest I also take vitamin c and

garlic.

What is neoral? I have never heard of it. My arthritis is well maintained

with viox but if I am under a lot of stress which I have been lately it

flare I have had a bad flare in my ankle but them the breaks

God Bless

Take care

Beverley in Australia

[ ] zinc

> just wanted to pass on some personal experiences. i have been on neoral

> for some months as i have already mentioned. i was on 100 mg 2x daily for

> about 2 or 3 months, had blood checked and found that liver levels were

high.

> went down to 1x daily because ps cleared up. after a month, i went for a

checkup

> around the middle of june, and he said if the next blood test showed up

high,

> i would probably have to quit taking. i go this week for test. well,

neoral is

> the first med that has made my ps go away. after dr told me this, my

husband

> did some research and found that gingo biloba and zinc are a couple of

good

> supplements for keeping your liver healthy. the zinc made me a little

nervous,

> since it boosts immune system. got dr and pharma. blessing and started

> taking 6/18. within about a week, i started feeling achy but blamed on

> some physical work i had done. well, last week i started feeling real bad,

> pain i haven't had in years. by friday night i could hardly get up out of

bed

> to go to the bathroom. i have not had this kind of hard pain in years, it

was

> incredible. then at 5am as i couldn't even roll over, it dawned on me,

maybe

> the zinc was doing it. so i didn't take it sat. woke up yesterday still a

little

> achy and was sore yesterday, but today i feel like i did before i started

taking

> zinc. it didn't hurt to get up, i forgot how great that is until i

couldn't do it again.

> my fingers are still swollen, but feeling better. it is amazing how

little it takes

> to screw our systems up. and the dr didn't think it would hurt to take

since

> neoral is an immunsupp. well, i will never take any immune booster again!

> i just wanted to pass along my experience with zinc. i will let you know

> how much, if any effect the gingkoba had my test results.

> susan in ohio

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In a message dated 07/17/2001 4:00:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jca@... writes:

<< i will never take any immune booster again >>

- one more reason why we always have to let our rheumys know of ALL

drugs we take - even OTC's, herbals, supplements, etc.

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I heard that milk thistle is also good for the liver.

[Guest guest]

I have a non-working pituitary gland. It has not worked since 1990

when it was discovered through a battery of tests to find out why I

was experincing erection difficulty. I have been on some type of

replacement since that time. After trying everything I am back on

injections which I know is not considered the best but it works for

me. I take 50m Zinc daily and have been for the last several

months. I am not an expert but I have noticed that when I climax

there appears to be much more and that is very fluid. Before that it

was less and thick. I have also noticed an increase in pre-cum which

can and will occur at any time.

[Guest guest]

It is very likely that your anxiety, etc., are due to your T levels

being too low.

That would (naturally) also tend to account for low E2 levels. You

advise that your T has been " very low as well " . How low is that

(hopefully figures for both Total T and Free T and their respective

reference ranges)???

What type of TRT are you currently on?

Larry

> Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower (<20) on

> Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

> 15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

> anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has anyone

> had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it between

> meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

> taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

>

> Drake

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> Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower (<20)

on

> Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

> 15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

> anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has

anyone

> had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it

between

> meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

> taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

>

> Drake

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Did you take too much zinc? A while back on this forum there was a

general consensus that taking one zinc with copper, or was it copper

with zinc, pill a day was sufficient. I think it was a 50mg zinc.

You were taking 75mg plus 15mg multi, that is 90 mg or almost double

the amount I believe was discussed here. I took it for three months

are had a slight metallic taste in my mouth, and honestly could not

tell any other differences good or bad.

norton

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Drake I take zinc/copper you need to take copper with it zinc lowers copper.

You need 2 mgs. of copper to every 50 mgs. of zinc. If your t levels are low

your E2 can be down with it but what is the ratio. Here is the zinc I take it

has copper in it it is the only one I could find.

http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html

I take on after breakfast it is best to take early because it can keep you up at

night. Get back to me and tell me what you take supplements meds and your TRT.

Also you test results with the ranges.

Phil

veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote:

Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower (<20) on

Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has anyone

had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it between

meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

Drake

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Norton you need Zinc I take Zinc/Copper for my testis you don't feel anything

from taking it but it fills out your testis.

http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html

One in the morning after eating if you get a bad taste in your mouth then try a

different brand. We don't get zinc in are diet the meat we eat and now corn

fed. Also we don't get Omega 3 in are diet so get some fish oil I take 2 soft

gels 3 times a day it is good for joint pain also the meat we eat does not have

Omega 3's in them anymore. I get my fish oil from Costco's I get 200 soft gels

for $11.55 and it is Enteric Coated so you don't burp them up.

Phil

nort828 <nort828@...> wrote:

> Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower (<20)

on

> Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

> 15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

> anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has

anyone

> had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it

between

> meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

> taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

>

> Drake

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Did you take too much zinc? A while back on this forum there was a

general consensus that taking one zinc with copper, or was it copper

with zinc, pill a day was sufficient. I think it was a 50mg zinc.

You were taking 75mg plus 15mg multi, that is 90 mg or almost double

the amount I believe was discussed here. I took it for three months

are had a slight metallic taste in my mouth, and honestly could not

tell any other differences good or bad.

norton

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil-

I agree with you that some of the research out there says that you

need 2mg copper for every 50mg zinc. However, there is also some

real concern about copper toxicity in that many people get copper in

their water (from copper pipes) and also through diet. Given the

additional research I have done and comparisons about zinc and

copper ratios, taking 90mg zinc with the 2mg copper in my multi

makes sense regarding the ratio.

I recently increased my T amount that I am applying because I found

that the last test I did had my total T around 273 ng/dl (range is

250 -1100) and free was 50.5pg/ml (range 35 - 155). The funny thing

is I had just increased my gel dosage after getting labs back that

had it dropped from 900 to 600. In other words, I increased the

dose and the T total went from 600 to 273. Any thoughts to that?

Drake

> Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower

(<20) on

> Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

> 15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

> anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has

anyone

> had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it

between

> meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

> taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

>

> Drake

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Yes Drake your not getting the t out of the gels any more how long have you been

using them. I have not had this happen to me but I know of a lot of guys that

have gone to shots becasue of this. My levels did drop on AndroGel but it was

the Co.'s quality not the gel it's self I had to send back boxs of Androgel he

packets were half full and some had nothing in them. You don't get much copper

from the copper pipes they are a mix of copper and other medals to make the

pipes harder.

Phil

veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote:

Hi Phil-

I agree with you that some of the research out there says that you

need 2mg copper for every 50mg zinc. However, there is also some

real concern about copper toxicity in that many people get copper in

their water (from copper pipes) and also through diet. Given the

additional research I have done and comparisons about zinc and

copper ratios, taking 90mg zinc with the 2mg copper in my multi

makes sense regarding the ratio.

I recently increased my T amount that I am applying because I found

that the last test I did had my total T around 273 ng/dl (range is

250 -1100) and free was 50.5pg/ml (range 35 - 155). The funny thing

is I had just increased my gel dosage after getting labs back that

had it dropped from 900 to 600. In other words, I increased the

dose and the T total went from 600 to 273. Any thoughts to that?

Drake

> Has anyone tried using Zinc to lower E2? My E2 is very lower

(<20) on

> Zinc, which I was taking 25mg 3x day between meals (in addition to

> 15mg in my multi). My T has been very low as well, though, and my

> anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, were through the roof. Has

anyone

> had any adverse reactions to Zinc, had problems if taking it

between

> meals (it absorbs better that way because it binds to fiber when

> taking with food), or seen any affect on T or E (E2 or Estrogen)?

>

> Drake

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[Guest guest]

> Hi Phil-

>

> I agree with you that some of the research out there says that you

> need 2mg copper for every 50mg zinc. However, there is also some

> real concern about copper toxicity in that many people get copper

in

> their water (from copper pipes) and also through diet. Given the

> additional research I have done and comparisons about zinc and

> copper ratios, taking 90mg zinc with the 2mg copper in my multi

> makes sense regarding the ratio.

>

> I recently increased my T amount that I am applying because I found

> that the last test I did had my total T around 273 ng/dl (range is

> 250 -1100) and free was 50.5pg/ml (range 35 - 155). The funny

thing

> is I had just increased my gel dosage after getting labs back that

> had it dropped from 900 to 600. In other words, I increased the

> dose and the T total went from 600 to 273. Any thoughts to that?

>

> Drake

>

><snip>

After a couple of weeks on testosterone your testicles starts

shutting down the natural production, & your testosterone levels will

lower. Then you have to increase the dosage to make up the

difference.

[Guest guest]

Hi

You said that, After a couple of weeks on testosterone

your testicles starts shutting down the natural

production, & your testosterone levels will

lower. it is very sacy, because if this will shut down

means now we are always depend on the external source

of the T. Is it good? If we stop the T cream/tablet

then what will happen, will body will again make the

T? If yes then the quantity will be enough? It is very

scary because the cream/patches/tables don't trat the

cause but they give the results only....

--- gin2c <no_reply > wrote:

>

> > Hi Phil-

> >

> > I agree with you that some of the research out

> there says that you

> > need 2mg copper for every 50mg zinc. However,

> there is also some

> > real concern about copper toxicity in that many

> people get copper

> in

> > their water (from copper pipes) and also through

> diet. Given the

> > additional research I have done and comparisons

> about zinc and

> > copper ratios, taking 90mg zinc with the 2mg

> copper in my multi

> > makes sense regarding the ratio.

> >

> > I recently increased my T amount that I am

> applying because I found

> > that the last test I did had my total T around 273

> ng/dl (range is

> > 250 -1100) and free was 50.5pg/ml (range 35 -

> 155). The funny

> thing

> > is I had just increased my gel dosage after

> getting labs back that

> > had it dropped from 900 to 600. In other words, I

> increased the

> > dose and the T total went from 600 to 273. Any

> thoughts to that?

> >

> > Drake

> >

> ><snip>

>

> After a couple of weeks on testosterone your

> testicles starts

> shutting down the natural production, & your

> testosterone levels will

> lower. Then you have to increase the dosage to make

> up the

> difference.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I have been on a zinc suplement for two years. I think that may be part of

the reason my hair is still falling out. I am also three years out.

Sandy

zinc

I just had my annual blood tests (clos, I will be faxing that in) and I am a

little low on zinc. I am 3 years

out.

Anyone else had this?

Cheryl

Iowa

[Guest guest]

I thought Zinc was to help prevent hair loss. I take it also.

G

202/142/???

Dr. H Joplin MO 1/4/05

zinc

I just had my annual blood tests (clos, I will be faxing that in) and I am a

little low on zinc. I am 3 years

out.

Anyone else had this?

Cheryl

Iowa

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry I meant the defienciency was the reason my hair is falling out. I

don't seem to be able to get my zinc level up to normal.

Sandy

Re: zinc

I thought Zinc was to help prevent hair loss. I take it also.

G

202/142/???

Dr. H Joplin MO 1/4/05

zinc

I just had my annual blood tests (clos, I will be faxing that in) and I am a

little low on zinc. I am 3 years

out.

Anyone else had this?

Cheryl

Iowa

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

I guess I had better get on a supplement too. I don't want it to get too out of

hand. I'm sorry for your

hair loss. I haven't lost one strand during these 3 years and I don't want to

start! I may start using

Nioxin or Head and Shoulders too.

When and how do you take zinc?

Cheryl

Iowa

9/20/02

225/144/130 (someday)

size 6 - 8