Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think its a Die-off, definitely bigger if you haven't seen this earlier. would you mind Gut protocol or Biofilm protocol that you are using Biofilm defense for? sasmita > > We just started another round of flagyl after getting my son's stool test back. He has five bacterial imbalances and one bacterial dysbiosis. Yeast is still an issue but not as bad as in the past. Our DAN physician said that the flagyl should kill four out of the five bacterial imbalances. In the past we have used flagyl for clostridia with marked improvement. We just completed the first week and I have noticed really awful smelling gas. This is something new. Poops are very smelly but are beginning to firm up. I do not remember every having smelly gas/poops after starting flagyl. Is this part of a bigger die off? We have added Kirkman's biofilm to his gut protocol which is also something new. Does anyone have any thoughts and/or experiences? > > TIA, > Dayna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I meant would you mind posting Biofilm protocol? Sasmita > > > > We just started another round of flagyl after getting my son's stool test back. He has five bacterial imbalances and one bacterial dysbiosis. Yeast is still an issue but not as bad as in the past. Our DAN physician said that the flagyl should kill four out of the five bacterial imbalances. In the past we have used flagyl for clostridia with marked improvement. We just completed the first week and I have noticed really awful smelling gas. This is something new. Poops are very smelly but are beginning to firm up. I do not remember every having smelly gas/poops after starting flagyl. Is this part of a bigger die off? We have added Kirkman's biofilm to his gut protocol which is also something new. Does anyone have any thoughts and/or experiences? > > > > TIA, > > Dayna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 We are using one cap of Ca Edta, one cap Biofilm Defense and two caps Candex on an empty stomach. 30 - 60 minutes later add Flagyl, natural anti-fungals (rotate) and prescription anti-fungal with food. One hour later mop up with two charcoal caps. At bedtime on we do two caps Pectasol - C, two caps Culturelle and probiotics (rotate) on an empty stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 We are also using Flagyl right now for a parasite in my 7 yr old. She has been on it a couple of days and I have not seen any side effects. Our doctor told us to use sacch b. instead of probiotics while on flagyl. It keeps the bad bacteria at bay. If we used regular probiotics the flagyl would just kill it off. We are using Klaire Labs Sacch B. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 If you're using a prescription antifungal, it would also kill Sacc.boulardii. So, it should be given away from antifungals.... Hope this helps, Sasmita > > > > We are also using Flagyl right now for a parasite in my 7 yr old. She has been on it a couple of days and I have not seen any side effects. Our doctor told us to use sacch b. instead of probiotics while on flagyl. It keeps the bad bacteria at bay. If we used regular probiotics the flagyl would just kill it off. We are using Klaire Labs Sacch B. > > Hope this helps. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 We usually get aggression with bacteria issues. What are you using to treat it? You need to make sure to use probiotics away from whatever you use to kill clostridia. Sac B also helpsa with clostridia. bacteria die off Another question. My 15 year old has clostridia problems that we've been treating fairly aggressively since last week when we found out. Can someone tell me what bacteria die-off looks like? Does rage fit? Irrational, out of control aggression? Or is that something else? Today she hit me, called me a fucking bitch, and tried to push me down the stairs. This is NOT typical behaviour for her. Die-off? Or something else? I gave her some charcoal and sent her to the bathtub. But other than that, I'm out of ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Yes, we're using probiotics and saccB and not at the same time as the " Gut Bug Terminator " , which is a cocktail of OLE, Wormwood, Black Walnut, Goldenseal, GSE, Pau D'Arco and cloves. ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: w3m1 Receiver: Time: 2010-05-17, 06:41:31 Subject: Re: bacteria die off >We usually get aggression with bacteria issues. What are you using to treat it? You need to make sure to use probiotics away from whatever you use to kill clostridia. Sac B also helpsa with clostridia. > > > > > > bacteria die off > > > > >Another question. My 15 year old has clostridia problems that we've been treating fairly aggressively since last week when we found out. Can someone tell me what bacteria die-off looks like? Does rage fit? Irrational, out of control aggression? Or is that something else? Today she hit me, called me a fucking bitch, and tried to push me down the stairs. This is NOT typical behaviour for her. Die-off? Or something else? I gave her some charcoal and sent her to the bathtub. But other than that, I'm out of ideas. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Hi So how did you come up with this formula and how do you dose it - by weight? Sounds like something I'd love to use at our house, Thanks Re: bacteria die off Posted by: " West " shanwest@... shanwestca Mon May 17, 2010 10:48 am (PDT) Yes, we're using probiotics and saccB and not at the same time as the " Gut Bug Terminator " , which is a cocktail of OLE, Wormwood, Black Walnut, Goldenseal, GSE, Pau D'Arco and cloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Then I would lower the dose a bit so she can handle it better or use the charcoal as you stated. you just have to give charcoal away from other things because it pulls everything out. You need to make sure you are replacing vitamins and especially minerals when giving the charcoal. We can't handle charcoal here. Someone else might have other suggestions. Good Luck. bacteria die off > > > > >Another question. My 15 year old has clostridia problems that we've been treating fairly aggressively since last week when we found out. Can someone tell me what bacteria die-off looks like? Does rage fit? Irrational, out of control aggression? Or is that something else? Today she hit me, called me a fucking bitch, and tried to push me down the stairs. This is NOT typical behaviour for her. Die-off? Or something else? I gave her some charcoal and sent her to the bathtub. But other than that, I'm out of ideas. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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