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We had the same thoughts with my grandaughter. (Almost 6, HFA). We didn't try

the diet because of the same reason. We do find chocolate makes her more

hyper, so we limit it, also anything with red dye. We did the DMG from

Kirkman labs. Overall I think the Speech, OT, keeping her with typically

devel. kids. She learns from others. She had ABA for a short time and that

really got her started. She didn't talk until she was 3. Now her speech is

good , but she talks like a 4yr .old. She relates to younger children better

than her own age. She does very good. She starts school this year in Reg.

Kindergarten.

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Hi,

Just wanted to share that I had Madelyn on the diet for a year (strict) and

she began to walk and talk. Then I reintroduced gluten products slowly since

she didn't seem to have much of a prob with them (except for oats). She now

will eat dairy on rare occasions when she asks for it, but I do notice her

temper is worse when she has it. She certainly is a lot better than she used

to be though. I just don't over do anything. Just reintroduce slowly and

keep tabs on behavior, etc.

Too much sugar is a huge problem as well. Creates yeast (yuk!) Garlic

combats this problem, but it's also good to remove products containing corn

syrup and other such " fillers " and sweetners from the diet. They're just bad

news. My daughter loves rice milk and eats lots of fruits and protien.

Hope this helps!

Jayne

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>Subject: Re: going off the diet

>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:48:49 EDT

>

>We had the same thoughts with my grandaughter. (Almost 6, HFA). We didn't

>try

>the diet because of the same reason. We do find chocolate makes her more

>hyper, so we limit it, also anything with red dye. We did the DMG from

>Kirkman labs. Overall I think the Speech, OT, keeping her with typically

>devel. kids. She learns from others. She had ABA for a short time and that

>really got her started. She didn't talk until she was 3. Now her speech is

>good , but she talks like a 4yr .old. She relates to younger children

>better

>than her own age. She does very good. She starts school this year in Reg.

>Kindergarten.

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>From: NinnaTerry@...

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>Autism_in_Girls

>Subject: Re: going off the diet

>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 15:48:49 EDT

>

>We had the same thoughts with my grandaughter. (Almost 6, HFA). We didn't

>try

>the diet because of the same reason. We do find chocolate makes her more

>hyper, so we limit it, also anything with red dye. We did the DMG from

>Kirkman labs. Overall I think the Speech, OT, keeping her with typically

>devel. kids. She learns from others. She had ABA for a short time and that

>really got her started. She didn't talk until she was 3. Now her speech is

>good , but she talks like a 4yr .old. She relates to younger children

>better

>than her own age. She does very good. She starts school this year in Reg.

>Kindergarten.

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Hi,

We tried the diet strictly for one year and saw no change either.My

daughter never had any gastrointestinal problems so she probably wasn't a

good candidate.Be prepared,it was tough to get her back to regular food !!!

She ate soy cheese pizzas for a month after we officially quit.

Good Luck, Jo

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We did the diet for 9 months and did not see any significant improvement. Not

enough to say the diet did it. has continue to improve slowly without the

diet so any improvement we figure was not the diet.

ElaineF

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When we started the gfcf diet originally we saw some results but were a

little disappointed that her behavior wasn't much better. We then took her

to get a blood draw to test food allergies/sensitivities (ELISA). The

results of this test showed that in addition to gluten and casien, there

were 20 other foods she was reacting to -- big ones that we'd been using as

supplements to the stuff we eliminated! (eggs, soy, peanuts, citrus fruits,

bananas, etc). So once we elminated all that from her diet, we saw a much

greater improvement.

Have you had your daughter tested at all? I'm not saying that the diet will

help everybody, but it won't do as much good as it can if there are still

" bad " foods in her system.

Joy Insinna

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Office: (585) 240-7483

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Hi everyone

Is there anyone out there who has scrapped the GFCF diet because you

haven't seen results with it?

I'm considering doing just that--partly because one of our doctors,

who is also our ABA consultant, said that the diet helps only about

3% of autistic children, and partly because in the nearly 2 years

we've been following the diet, we haven't seen any huge changes.

My daughter is 5(HFA). We've tried SuperNuThera, enzymes, GFCF

diet,and I'm not convinced that anything other than the ABA has really

worked.

I'd appreciate any input into my dilemna! Thanks:)

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We did get some testing done--hair analysis to test for metals

(negative, but we did the chelation anyway), and some blood tests.

That particular doctor recommended the probiotics and plant

enzymes--those seemed to help a little. However, we just couldn't

afford to do the ELISA ($350-- I live in Canada & that test is not

covered by insurance.) Do you know of any other tests that might

serve the same purpose, but are a little cheaper?

Leanne

> When we started the gfcf diet originally we saw some results but

were a

> little disappointed that her behavior wasn't much better. We then

took her

> to get a blood draw to test food allergies/sensitivities (ELISA).

The

> results of this test showed that in addition to gluten and casien,

there

> were 20 other foods she was reacting to -- big ones that we'd been

using as

> supplements to the stuff we eliminated! (eggs, soy, peanuts, citrus

fruits,

> bananas, etc). So once we elminated all that from her diet, we saw a

much

> greater improvement.

>

> Have you had your daughter tested at all? I'm not saying that the

diet will

> help everybody, but it won't do as much good as it can if there are

still

> " bad " foods in her system.

>

> Joy Insinna

> Director

> Office: (585) 240-7483

> Fax: (585) 295-4890

> Element K

> 'the knowledge catalyst'

> www.elementk.com

>

>

>

> " statement65 "

> <statement65@yaho To:

Autism_in_Girls@y...

> o.com> cc:

> Fax to:

> 07/18/02 03:38 PM Subject:

going off the diet

> Please respond to

> Autism_in_Girls

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone

> Is there anyone out there who has scrapped the GFCF diet because you

> haven't seen results with it?

> I'm considering doing just that--partly because one of our doctors,

> who is also our ABA consultant, said that the diet helps only about

> 3% of autistic children, and partly because in the nearly 2 years

> we've been following the diet, we haven't seen any huge changes.

> My daughter is 5(HFA). We've tried SuperNuThera, enzymes, GFCF

> diet,and I'm not convinced that anything other than the ABA has

really

> worked.

> I'd appreciate any input into my dilemna! Thanks:)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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No, I don't really know any test that's the same. We did pay about $350 but

were lucky that insurance paid for most of it!

Good luck!

Joy Insinna

Director

Office: (585) 240-7483

Fax: (585) 295-4890

Element K

'the knowledge catalyst'

www.elementk.com

" statement65 "

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Autism_in_Girls

o.com> cc:

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07/19/02 05:35 PM Subject: Re:

going off the diet

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Autism_in_Girls

>

We did get some testing done--hair analysis to test for metals

(negative, but we did the chelation anyway), and some blood tests.

That particular doctor recommended the probiotics and plant

enzymes--those seemed to help a little. However, we just couldn't

afford to do the ELISA ($350-- I live in Canada & that test is not

covered by insurance.) Do you know of any other tests that might

serve the same purpose, but are a little cheaper?

Leanne

> When we started the gfcf diet originally we saw some results but

were a

> little disappointed that her behavior wasn't much better. We then

took her

> to get a blood draw to test food allergies/sensitivities (ELISA).

The

> results of this test showed that in addition to gluten and casien,

there

> were 20 other foods she was reacting to -- big ones that we'd been

using as

> supplements to the stuff we eliminated! (eggs, soy, peanuts, citrus

fruits,

> bananas, etc). So once we elminated all that from her diet, we saw a

much

> greater improvement.

>

> Have you had your daughter tested at all? I'm not saying that the

diet will

> help everybody, but it won't do as much good as it can if there are

still

> " bad " foods in her system.

>

> Joy Insinna

> Director

> Office: (585) 240-7483

> Fax: (585) 295-4890

> Element K

> 'the knowledge catalyst'

> www.elementk.com

>

>

>

> " statement65 "

> <statement65@yaho To:

Autism_in_Girls@y...

> o.com> cc:

> Fax to:

> 07/18/02 03:38 PM Subject:

going off the diet

> Please respond to

> Autism_in_Girls

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone

> Is there anyone out there who has scrapped the GFCF diet because you

> haven't seen results with it?

> I'm considering doing just that--partly because one of our doctors,

> who is also our ABA consultant, said that the diet helps only about

> 3% of autistic children, and partly because in the nearly 2 years

> we've been following the diet, we haven't seen any huge changes.

> My daughter is 5(HFA). We've tried SuperNuThera, enzymes, GFCF

> diet,and I'm not convinced that anything other than the ABA has

really

> worked.

> I'd appreciate any input into my dilemna! Thanks:)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Do you give the biofilm enzyme every night? I thought it was a specific

protocol.

We dumped the diet years ago when Houston came out with their enzymes. Even

when you are on the diet, so many other food issues come up. It never ends. It

is easier to just do enzymes, eat normally, and work on correcting the reason

your gut is not tolerating these foods than try to remove them.

>

> We have been on the diet for a year. I have just recently been feeding him

foods with gluten and casein along with a Trienza. We have not seen any

behavior changes nor changes with stool.

>

> However, we are still working on removing yeast. I still see black specs in

his stool. Currently doing candex, a biofilm enzyme, and GSE at night. Will

going off the diet effect the job we are doing to trying to get rid of the

yeast?

>

> Dionne

>

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> We have been on the diet for a year. I have just recently been feeding him

foods with gluten and casein along with a Trienza. We have not seen any

behavior changes nor changes with stool.

> However, we are still working on removing yeast. I still see black specs in

his stool. Currently doing candex, a biofilm enzyme, and GSE at night. Will

going off the diet effect the job we are doing to trying to get rid of the

yeast?

Depends on what you feed him. Too many carbs, starches, and/or sugars will

increase yeast, no matter what " diet " or lack of diet you are doing.

Dana

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