RE: Colostrum and Leaky Gut

[Guest guest]

I don't really " know anything " , and especially not about the leaky

gut getting worse. But in *severe* cases of leaky gut, something in

the remedy could perhaps leak into the blood? Mark Konlee writes in

one of his Positive Health reports:

I have had reports of some persons who have been chronically ill for

years who report they cannot tolerate FOS. I have discovered from

published research that about 1 person in 25 absorbs some of the FOS

into the blood and it is excreted in the kidneys. What this means is

that these FOS absorbers have very severe leaky gut syndrome. The

normal and even subnormal gut mucosa will not absorb FOS as the

molecule is too large. The FOS then becomes food for the bifido

bacteria and acidophilus in the colon. In about 4% of the population

with severely damaged gut mucosa, absorption of the FOS occurs and

this causes the problem of " intolerance. "

I don't know at all if this problem has anything to do with it.

-- Helge

>This is so interesting to me and I really want to understand it.

>Not sure if I can. But, since colostrum is supposed to be the

>product of choice for healing leaky gut, it is surprising to me that

>it would cause it in anyone. I understand that not everything works

>for everyone. I don't have a problem with that. I have had a

>number of things that help others really wreck me, so that isn't

>surprising to me. It is just a real wonder to me that it could make

>leaky gut worse. I found this chart at the bottom of the link you

>posted.

>

> Colostrum has 10 fold more vitamin A than milk.

> Colostrum has 3 fold more vitamin D than milk.

> Colostrum has 10 to 17 fold more iron than milk.

> Colostrum has higher Ca, P, Mg, Cl, and lower K than milk.

> Colostrum has higher levels of oligosaccharides than milk.

> Colostrum has a higher proportion of glycosylated k-casein than milk.

>Notice that the last line says it has higher glycosylated x-casein

>or k-casein. I have read on several other lists that casein is a

>real problem with the gut of autistic children. And I have no idea

>why. But, I wonder if this might be part of the issue.

>

>Just guessing. But I sure would like to understand it.

>Anyone out there know anything?

[Guest guest]

I heard leaky gut is caused by candida. Just stop eating sugar, sugar

related items (honey), and non-fiber starch and grains (found in

potatoes, rice, etc). And it might improve. Read the diet stuff on

www.mercola.com. I've tried it and it seems to work for me.

--- In bowel cleanse@y..., Helge Gundersen <helge.gundersen@c...>

really " know anything " , and especially not about the leaky

> this causes the problem of " intolerance. "

>

> I don't know at all if this problem has anything to do with it.

>

> -- Helge

[Guest guest]

There is more to Leaky Gut than Candida. Its also aggravated by

stress, food intolerances, imbalanced flora and parasites.

Peace,

Denny

> I heard leaky gut is caused by candida. Just stop eating sugar,

sugar

> related items (honey), and non-fiber starch and grains (found in

> potatoes, rice, etc). And it might improve. Read the diet stuff on

> www.mercola.com. I've tried it and it seems to work for me.

>

>

> --- In bowel cleanse@y..., Helge Gundersen <helge.gundersen@c...>

> really " know anything " , and especially not about the leaky

> > this causes the problem of " intolerance. "

> >

> > I don't know at all if this problem has anything to do with it.

> >

> > -- Helge

[Guest guest]

I would think colostrum would heal leaky gut. If you cut your finger, wash it

and put colostrum on it, that forms a skin-like barrier and begins quick

healing. Similar to aloe vera which is also healing. So it stands to reason that

the colostrum would do the same internally. I think those who get sick with it,

take too much at once. It is very powerful against toxins and may make a person

sick if they start with too much. Same for animals. of Dewberry

Hill

I don't really " know anything " , and especially not about the leaky

gut getting worse. But in *severe* cases of leaky gut, something in

the remedy could perhaps leak into the blood? Mark Konlee writes in

one of his Positive Health reports:

I have had reports of some persons who have been chronically ill for

years who report they cannot tolerate FOS. I have discovered from

published research that about 1 person in 25 absorbs some of the FOS

into the blood and it is excreted in the kidneys. What this means is

that these FOS absorbers have very severe leaky gut syndrome. The

normal and even subnormal gut mucosa will not absorb FOS as the

molecule is too large. The FOS then becomes food for the bifido

bacteria and acidophilus in the colon. In about 4% of the population

with severely damaged gut mucosa, absorption of the FOS occurs and

this causes the problem of " intolerance. "

I don't know at all if this problem has anything to do with it.

-- Helge

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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[Guest guest]

zenalpha wrote:

>

> I heard leaky gut is caused by candida. Just stop eating sugar, sugar

> related items (honey), and non-fiber starch and grains (found in

> potatoes, rice, etc). And it might improve. Read the diet stuff on

> www.mercola.com. I've tried it and it seems to work for me.

The low carb no grain, no rice, no potatoes, no fruit diet works well

for me also but candida is usually a symptom of something bigger and not

the culprit. You can treat candida and treat it(with antifungals) and

can sometimes make yourself worse. Mercury amalgam fillings are often

the evil at the top of the bigger picture. Deb

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

Our family tried colostrum for a period of time (the really good colustrum powder from New Zealand), after hearing rave testimonials about its potential for healing. I think we were taking 1/2 tsp twice daily, or perhaps more... This was prior to learning about SCD/GAPS. In our case, we noticed no effect or benefit from the colustrum whatsoever. I don't doubt that it can help reinforce healing, but I now suspect that it's not going to do much without the broader dietary changes and probiotics.

Tom Cowan, on the WAPF board, also says that the powdered colustrum is pretty worthless, he thinks only the fresh liquid colustrum will do much. (For anyone in California, Organic Pastures sells a "colustrum kefir" that is worth the high price. Wish we had something like that in NC!)

[ ] Colostrum and Leaky Gut

Hi all,Would anyone know how much colostrum to take to help heal Leaky Gut?:)Thank you!Tina

[Guest guest]

(For anyone in California, Organic Pastures sells a "colustrum kefir" that is worth the high price. Wish we had something like that in NC!)

I'm pretty sure that Amos sells raw colostrum from the Amish farms

in PA, but unfortunately he stopped coming to NC because there was not

enough interest, or so I hear. I haven't been getting colostrum from him but

I got two shipments through my mother in Atlanta only because I happen to

be visiting soon after his delivery there. So far I like everything I got. But

just wanted to point out that there is an East Coast source for colostrum.

Katy

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[Guest guest]

RE: [ ] Colostrum and Leaky Gut

(For anyone in California, Organic Pastures sells a "colustrum kefir" that is worth the high price. Wish we had something like that in NC!)

I'm pretty sure that Amos sells raw colostrum from the Amish farms

in PA, but unfortunately he stopped coming to NC because there was not

enough interest, or so I hear. I haven't been getting colostrum from him but

I got two shipments through my mother in Atlanta only because I happen to

be visiting soon after his delivery there. So far I like everything I got. But

just wanted to point out that there is an East Coast source for colostrum.

Katy

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Amos has some to the best products I have ever used. He does mail order for all of his products. We get dairy products shipped to us here in Oregon and many times it is cheaper with the shipping than Organic Patures.

RE: [ ] Colostrum and Leaky Gut

(For anyone in California, Organic Pastures sells a "colustrum kefir" that is worth the high price. Wish we had something like that in NC!)

I'm pretty sure that Amos sells raw colostrum from the Amish farms

in PA, but unfortunately he stopped coming to NC because there was not

enough interest, or so I hear. I haven't been getting colostrum from him but

I got two shipments through my mother in Atlanta only because I happen to

be visiting soon after his delivery there. So far I like everything I got. But

just wanted to point out that there is an East Coast source for colostrum.

Katy

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[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone. Is there a contact number or website for Amos?

Thank you!

Tina

>

> Hi

>

> Amos has some to the best products I have ever used. He does mail

order for all of his products. We get dairy products shipped to us

here in Oregon and many times it is cheaper with the shipping than

Organic Patures.

>

>

> RE: [ ] Colostrum and Leaky Gut

>

>

>

> (For anyone in California, Organic Pastures sells a " colustrum

kefir " that is worth

> the high price. Wish we had something like that in NC!)

>

> I'm pretty sure that Amos sells raw colostrum from the

Amish farms

> in PA, but unfortunately he stopped coming to NC because there

was not

> enough interest, or so I hear. I haven't been getting colostrum

from him but

> I got two shipments through my mother in Atlanta only because I

happen to

> be visiting soon after his delivery there. So far I like

everything I got. But

> just wanted to point out that there is an East Coast source for

colostrum.

>

> Katy

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tina

I take colostrum on a regular basis, and get very sick without it. I require two

teaspoons per day and it takes at least a weak before you notice the difference.

Helen

Colostrum and Leaky Gut

Hi all,

Would anyone know how much colostrum one would take to help heal Leaky

Gut?

Thanks!

Tina

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[Guest guest]

Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just a milk

product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from? Is it from

cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that has been fed

antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of research on

this one before I took it.

Carol

> Colostrum and Leaky Gut

>

> Hi all,

> Would anyone know how much colostrum one would take to help heal Leaky

> Gut?

>

> Thanks!

> Tina

>

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[Guest guest]

Carol, your suspicion is legendary and maybe you sould do a lot of

research before you reply to a question.

As the research notes, colostrum contains a lot of IGF-1, the main

growth factor. As such, it heals cells very quickly provided toxin

load is low enough and nutrient levels are adequate.

You can get toxin-free colostrum from Donna Crow (no relation) at:

http://www.excellentthings.com

Duncan

>

> Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just a milk

> product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from? Is it

from

> cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that has been

fed

> antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of research on

> this one before I took it.

>

> Carol

[Guest guest]

That's a big " provision " for some people - In my practice I've come

across more people that are toxic and are nutrient-deficient, than

people who have low toxin load and adequate nutrient levels. So am I

right to assume that, by what you said, colostrum would not help these

people? First they have to detox and get their nutrition up?

Carol

> >

> > Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just a milk

> > product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from? Is it

> from

> > cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that has been

> fed

> > antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of research on

> > this one before I took it.

> >

> > Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Carol, I think you overlooked the fact that even when a person is

nutrient-deficient systemically, the bowel lining cells have first

crack at whatever nutrient is present, ans since the person is

surviving the systemic deficiency there exists some nutrient at the

bowel lining. Thus, it's not such a big provision as you'd think to

assume those cells would have close to adequate nutrition available

regardless of toxin load.

Colostrum helps maintain bowel and systemic growth factor levels

despite any relative toxicity or lack of it. Put another way, people

are known to heal and repair regardless of toxicity, growth factor is

required for every cell, for every push for cell repair or cell

division.

Duncan

> > >

> > > Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just a

milk

> > > product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from? Is

it

> > from

> > > cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that has

been

> > fed

> > > antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of

research on

> > > this one before I took it.

> > >

> > > Carol

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan,

Would you mind helping me understand your reply to Carol? I guess I

am confused as to whether if you have a moderate toxin load if

colostrum will help you or not. Carol mentioned that a lot of her

patients are pretty toxic so I didn't understand your reply. Sorry -

I know you are super busy these days!

Thanks, Tina

> > > >

> > > > Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just a

> milk

> > > > product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from?

Is

> it

> > > from

> > > > cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that has

> been

> > > fed

> > > > antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of

> research on

> > > > this one before I took it.

> > > >

> > > > Carol

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tina, as we know, people who are toxic can heal, and although toxins

can sometimes impair healing due to their proximity to a lesion, they

don't prevent healing much generally.

Since healing absolutely requires growth factors, it is absolutely

wiser to address the growth factor deficiency than avoid addressing

it; this is actually a core point of an anti-aging, and many people

on this list would benefit by it.

Try Gooogling somalife clinical references for more info on how HGH

therapy affects regular people with normal and varying degrees of

toxin load, and note the wide range of positive effects.

Like other anti-aging consultants, most of whom are doctors, I'd

rather see people elevate their OWN HGH and growth factor release in

the natural pulsing manner rather than impose the growth factors

using a product like colostrum or HGH injections, which do not

naturally pulse the growth factors to the maximum release, but

overpower that level by who-knows-how-much.

Also, with regard to colostrum, most of it will not even progress far

enough down the bowel to heal the correct area anyway, so what you

have left is systemic effect if you take enough of it.

So, at least, doing both the colostrum as a low dose AND taking

SomaLife gHP, which produces the necessary natural pulses, would work

within the governance of the body's natural reverse-feedback loop.

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do you think that colostrum heals leaky gut? It's just

a

> > milk

> > > > > product, isn't it? And do you know where that comes from?

> Is

> > it

> > > > from

> > > > > cow, or sheep, or??? And is it taken from an animal that

has

> > been

> > > > fed

> > > > > antibiotics and rBH? If it were me, I would do a LOT of

> > research on

> > > > > this one before I took it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Carol

> > > >

> > >

> >

>