Re: mom threatened with removal of her aspie son

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My first question is, did her son hit the aide because he was already in meltdown mode, could have the aide had her hands on him for some reason? I know when my son starts to meltdown he can hit, he only hits when people are trying to come at him or touch him. Usually the way I explain it to people is, he is like a drunk, he is not in control any longer and will totally act off of impulse. Currently I am trying to get the school to be pro active and see if they can see what is causing his agitation and bring it to his attention then let him know it is time to take a break from what he is doing or what is going on at that time so that he is able bring himself back so he does not have to meltdown.

If her son was in a meltdown she should find out what happened before he starting melting down, from here she should figure out why. Is this due to his aspergers? If it was, she should work with the school on this issue, and try to get everyone on the same page (which is very difficult) so that everyone including her son can become pro active and avoid meltdowns. I know this is easier said that done, but it is a start. I think she might have a chance when it comes to working with the court system if she shows she is trying to help her son the best she knows how.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Willa, what State are you in??? "the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has beentold if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home."She is a single mom without much money or support and naturallyshe is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions fororganizations that might be able to help her, or websites thatwould have avice?Willa------------------------------------

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On Oct 14, 10:21pm, Kate Stone wrote:

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} Willa, what State are you in???

She is in Oregon. (Honestly, this wasn't

a fake " friend " - it's not me.)

Willa

[Guest guest]

I'm sure she's looking at all that, but the biggest concern right now

is the threat of losing her son.

Willa

[Guest guest]

Is there any type of behavior plan or even just an IEP in place at school? Any

therapist or doctor he sees? Is he getting services from anyone? If he is, as

mom I would show that he is getting help with his " problems " or if not seeing

anyone, that she will see that he sees a therapist or see about outside help,

etc. I would think if not seeing anyone or getting any type services, that the

juvenile system will recommend it (and maybe therapy or parenting classes for

mom as well, the latter being something they look to benefit mom in helping

him). I know others involved with the juvenile system usually end up with a

worker assigned to their case to follow the child. Also when it reaches court,

if it does, mom can ask for a court appointed attorney for him, cheaper that

way. I will say our local juvenile court system (which I just know due to work

related things) are some nice people but they do expect families to follow their

recommendations.

Just quick thoughts. I know she's STRESSED, worried!

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> " the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has been

> told if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home. "

>

> She is a single mom without much money or support and naturally

> she is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions for

> organizations that might be able to help her, or websites that

> would have avice?

>

> Willa

>

[Guest guest]

I recently read about a similiar story. Here's a link.

http://thezakhappeal.com/home/

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> " the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has been

> told if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home. "

>

> She is a single mom without much money or support and naturally

> she is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions for

> organizations that might be able to help her, or websites that

> would have avice?

>

> Willa

>

[Guest guest]

OMG. It makes me sick to read this. This is exactly what happened to my son. He

was almost 10 at the time. Get a lawyer and get one fast. Try wrightslaw.com for

legal advice concerning the school. It turned out with my son that he hit

because they never follow his IEP. The teacher scared him so he hit. It cost us

thousands of dollars (we didn't have it either). I will say that as soon as we

got a lawyer involved and I started to get in the school's face, they dropped

the charges and started to kiss our butts. I'd tell her to take a tough approach

with the school. This child is disabled, and he should not have charges pressed

for hitting. She needs to let go of any feelings of guilt she has over him

hitting and protect her son. Nobody else will...the school certainly won't.

[Guest guest]

Well, my friend got in touch with someone from a special needs law

website and seems to have been given some helpful advice, so I

will hope for the best. I can only imagine how scared she must

be. We have enough money to hire a lawyer if something like this

ever comes up, but it i still one of my top nightmares.

Willa

[Guest guest]

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This is a topic from which I am very passionately involved in Advocacy due to

personal circumstances. Though I am located in Canada, this type of instance is

occurring globally: Families of children with disabilities who are categorized

in the same neat little box as Children's Services' intervention models. This is

not only unethical, but unconstitutional.

In Alberta, Canada, I was able to effect a change to Legislation. Please share

the following information with your friend. I realize that jurisdiction will not

allow an immediate decision, however, this Amendment does have the ability to

lend as a precedence.

Sincerely,

Velvet ,

Administrator for Tetrasomy 18p Canada

http://www.tetrasomy18p.ca/

" 's Syndrome "

Amendment to the Alberta FSCD (Family Support for Children with Disabilities)

Act, became effective December 2006:

http://www.child.alberta.ca/home/527.cfm

Section 2-3, Manual Amendments: Policy and Procedures in Family Centred Supports

and Services:

" The Family Support for Children with Disabilities Program to have separate

legislation from that of child protection services. "

In Celebration of the Importance of Life & Loving Memory of:

, June 4, 1993 - December 3, 2006.

( " 's Law " )

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> " the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has been

> told if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home. "

>

> She is a single mom without much money or support and naturally

> she is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions for

> organizations that might be able to help her, or websites that

> would have avice?

>

> Willa

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,If I were you I would investigate the hitting very well. The problem is that the school probably is hiding facts from the incident from everybody.I would research if they have follow the IEP, if the teacher corrected the child following the guidelines for children with disabilities, etc, etc.The school has called the DSS on me several times, but also I have been arguing that the school is neglecting my child needs and causing enough stress to cause behavioral problem. I can't believe the cops are intimidating that child, I would not allow the system to interview him without his mental therapist being presence. This situation can really cause a big trauma on him and make things worst...I hope you can get a lawyer and take the school and the teachers to court.... ( ) Re: mom threatened with removal of her aspie son: (This is a topic from which I am very passionately involved in Advocacy due to personal circumstances. Though I am located in Canada, this type of instance is occurring globally: Families of children with disabilities who are categorized in the same neat little box as Children's Services' intervention models. This is not only unethical, but unconstitutional.In Alberta, Canada, I was able to effect a change to Legislation. Please share the following information with your friend. I realize that jurisdiction will not allow an immediate decision, however, this Amendment does have the ability to lend as a precedence.Sincerely,Velvet ,Administrator for Tetrasomy 18p Canadahttp://www.tetrasomy18p.ca/"'s Syndrome"Amendment to the Alberta FSCD (Family Support for Children with Disabilities) Act, became effective December 2006: http://www.child.alberta.ca/home/527.cfm Section 2-3, Manual Amendments: Policy and Procedures in Family Centred Supports and Services: "The Family Support for Children with Disabilities Program to have separate legislation from that of child protection services." In Celebration of the Importance of Life & Loving Memory of: , June 4, 1993 - December 3, 2006.("'s Law")> > "the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has been> told if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home."> > She is a single mom without much money or support and naturally> she is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions for> organizations that might be able to help her, or websites that> would have avice?> > Willa>

[Guest guest]

Please have your friend contact Pacer Center, it is a National Organization for ASD and an umbrella for local agencies... web addy... www.pacer.org "the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has beentold if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home."She is a single mom without much money or support and naturallyshe is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions fororganizations that might be able to help her, or websites thatwould have avice?Willa------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Willa,I used to be a juvenile probation officer (in Texas) and I will tell you that the likelihood of them taking him away from her at this point (assuming this is first entry into the system) is pretty slim.  Every state is different though.  But it costs the state or county money to put children into residential homes so only the worst cases (of abuse, offenders, etc.) actually are removed from their homes.  I would be happy to talk to you or your friend further if you'd like.

My email is cjrlmc at gmail dot com.On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kate Stone <katesdishes@...> wrote:

 

Please have your friend contact Pacer Center, it is a National Organization for ASD and an umbrella for local agencies... web addy...  www.pacer.org 

" the cops have been here, and he is now in the juvenile system. he has been

told if he keeps this up he will be taken to a boys home. " She is a single mom without much money or support and naturallyshe is very frightened. Does anyone have any suggestions fororganizations that might be able to help her, or websites that

would have avice?Willa------------------------------------