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Jo,

I have a suggestion for your demonstration:

In our experience, a good starting point may be to do a

theta inhibit-only protocol. This is easy to experience, easy

to demonstrate and control, and the trainee an get a

quick sense of the quieting and focusing effect.

You could use a standard SMR/theta protocol (such

as " focus " ) and set the SMR threshold very low, so that

the SMR target is easy to meet. Then the task becomes

mostly one of getting the theta below threshold. Use

a simple display such as the " Thermos " window, so the

trainee can see when theta goes below threshold, and

a point is awarded (with the " reward " sound).

This makes it easy to demonstrate, with a single

threshold, a quieting and focusing exercise, and trainees

can often get the initial gist of what is happening in

just a few minutes. Then you can raise the SMR

(or alpha or beta, whatever) threshold a bit, so they

see the use of combined thresholds, and a more complex

EEG task.

Also, using the BrainMaster, the animations work well

in this manner (make sure you have the updated SW),

as the animation will move when the thresholds are met,

and it's, again, a simple and intuitive demonstration.

You can also watch the " Numbers " screen to watch the

values of theta, beta, and others, and even the theta/beta

ratio, as the training ensues. As a simple " assessment " ,

watching the theta/beta ratio is very informative.

Tom

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> Pete and other members,

>

> I will be having 5 couples of mom and an ADD kid coming to see what

> neurofeedback can do for them.

> Maybe they want me to hook them up.

> I am thinking to get subject assessments done prior to the trial.

> I don't think I have enough time for objective assessments.

> What do you think I should do?

> Any recommended protocols?

> Your advices will be appreciated very much.

>

> Jo Sato

> neurofeedback@...

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Jo,

The easiest thing for most clients to do, and the safest, is simply to bring down slow activity.

I'd hook folks up at Cz or C3 with an A1 reference and have them reduce 2-5 Hz. It really gives the client a sense of control of the equipment quite quickly. Just have them focus on the thermometer.

Pete

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Pete and other members,I will be having 5 couples of mom and an ADD kid coming to see what neurofeedback can do for them.Maybe they want me to hook them up.I am thinking to get subject assessments done prior to the trial.I don't think I have enough time for objective assessments.What do you think I should do?Any recommended protocols?Your advices will be appreciated very much.Jo Satoneurofeedback@...

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Pete,

Thank you for your reply.

Would you tell me why Cz or C3 instead of Fz or F3?

Because of eys blinks?

Jo Sato

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Jo,

The easiest thing for most clients to do, and the safest, is simply to bring down slow activity.

I'd hook folks up at Cz or C3 with an A1 reference and have them reduce 2-5 Hz. It really gives the client a sense of control of the equipment quite quickly. Just have them focus on the thermometer.

Pete

ADD

Pete and other members,I will be having 5 couples of mom and an ADD kid coming to see what neurofeedback can do for them.Maybe they want me to hook them up.I am thinking to get subject assessments done prior to the trial.I don't think I have enough time for objective assessments.What do you think I should do?Any recommended protocols?Your advices will be appreciated very much.Jo Satoneurofeedback@...

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Jo,

The frontal areas do have greater leverage, since they are working over the executive control center of the brain. That can be good or bad. If you jump in and train the wrong thing in the frontal lobes (not difficult to do if you haven't done an assessment), you could easily generate poor responses or even negative responses. That's not good for business.

The central strip is a very safe place to train, and it has many connections to the thalamus, which is a key center with effects throughout the brain. Remember that for many years the pioneers in neurofeedback did all training at Cz, C3, C4--and many people still do.

What you really want in a demonstration is for people to be able to see how it works--and maybe see an effect, but at least not be scared away by a negative effect. That's why I would stay on the central strip and stay with inhibit-only protocols.

Pete

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Pete,

Thank you for your reply.

Would you tell me why Cz or C3 instead of Fz or F3?

Because of eys blinks?

Jo Sato

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Thank you, Pete for explaining it.

Jo

-----Original Message-----From: Van Deusen [mailto:pvdtlc@...] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: ADD

Jo,

The frontal areas do have greater leverage, since they are working over the executive control center of the brain. That can be good or bad. If you jump in and train the wrong thing in the frontal lobes (not difficult to do if you haven't done an assessment), you could easily generate poor responses or even negative responses. That's not good for business.

The central strip is a very safe place to train, and it has many connections to the thalamus, which is a key center with effects throughout the brain. Remember that for many years the pioneers in neurofeedback did all training at Cz, C3, C4--and many people still do.

What you really want in a demonstration is for people to be able to see how it works--and maybe see an effect, but at least not be scared away by a negative effect. That's why I would stay on the central strip and stay with inhibit-only protocols.

Pete

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Pete,

Thank you for your reply.

Would you tell me why Cz or C3 instead of Fz or F3?

Because of eys blinks?

Jo Sato

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I use the assessment depending on the childs age and control capabilities. With

young or very active children, I would start with SMR training and find the

effective SMR frequency and do the assessment with adjusted freauency bands

after there is some control.

Pete

>

> From: " Shuel " <steve.shuel@...>

> Date: 2004/03/11 Thu AM 10:59:08 EST

> " Van Deusen " <pvdtlc@...>

> Subject: ADD

>

> Pete,

> Do you do the standard TLC assessment on kids who are having attention

> problems..and treat accordingly?

> How might the numbers be different?

>

> Steve

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> Equipment

> > >

> > > Hello Pete,

> > >

> > > I hope you're having a fantastic time in Europe.

> > > I'm thinking of adding another EEG unit to the office. I'm tempted to

> go

> > > with another Brainmaster just to keep things consistant in the office( I

> > > plan to have staff do a lot of hooking and unhooking). The other option

> is

> > > Waverider. What is the difference in cost between the two?

> > >

> > > Looking at the A1 when I was in Atlanta..it looked a little

> > > complicated....I'm thinking my staff might have a bit of a time with it.

> > > I'm thinking some time down the line I may get an A1 to go with the HEG.

> > >

> > > Either way I'd want to go with Bioexplorer.

> > >

> > > So , what am I looking at price wise?

> > >

> > > Steve

> > >

> > >

> > >

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May I spread your post around Sharon? I think stories like

yours need to be spread far & wide.

Alobar

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> For some reason this message did not post so I'm re-posting it on

> the website.

>

> Just wanted to say that the stuff in my last mail was not actually

> written by me, it was quoted from the alternative ADD website

> www.borntoexplore.org. When my son was first labelled ADD this

> website was a great source of help and information; I learned to

see

> him not as having a disorder but simply having other needs than the

> educational system was able to fulfill.

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Sure, go ahead!

Sharon

Re: ADD

May I spread your post around Sharon? I think stories like

yours need to be spread far & wide.

Alobar

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> For some reason this message did not post so I'm re-posting it on

> the website.

>

> Just wanted to say that the stuff in my last mail was not actually

> written by me, it was quoted from the alternative ADD website

> www.borntoexplore.org. When my son was first labelled ADD this

> website was a great source of help and information; I learned to

see

> him not as having a disorder but simply having other needs than the

> educational system was able to fulfill.

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Thanks! Fatigue and distractions are sure causes of ADD for me. Or

often I will focus on something about a person that I'm more

interested in such as how they are saying things, the sound of their

voice or if I'm trying to determine what kind of person they are, and

not hear what they say, or I'll look at things with a creative eye

instead of a practical eye and these types of things I attribute to

purposeful ADD that I've engaged because of my own interests or

boredom or disinterest. But then there's non-purposeful ADD. One

thing I've noticed is that my brain has a mind of it's own. At times

it will automatically filter what it thinks is interesting without

regard for what's important. It will filter things I've heard before

even if I've forgotten them on a conscious level, will automatically

seize on the novel. Other times, such as when I'm involved in a

conversation and someone is taking a long time to say a simple thing,

my brain will filter out everything the person is saying except the

one important bit. Other times my brain will just not focus at all or

very poorly all around no matter what I do. So I think the most

frustrating thing is when my mind cannot control my brain!

>

> As far as I've been able to figure out, ADD may have natural/innate

and environmental causes, and a combination of both.

>

> Recycling bits of what I have written on the ADD page of my site:

>

> Natural causes:

>

> - Most likely due to focusing on external or internal sensations,

thoughts, intuitions and/or sensory input. This is also typical - and

natural - for the introvert and/or intuitive/creative personality

type who needs to be allowed enough time for introspection,

imagination, daydreaming and inspiration in order to learn and

create. Having a rich inner world is not a disorder.

> - It is also perfectly natural for children to have shorter

attention spans than adults. And what is considered 'normal' for

adults may be more based on social/educational/employer demands than

actual reality.

>

> - And it is equally normal for everyone to mainly be interested in

paying attention to things that are useful, interesting and relevant

to that particular individual.

>

> Environmental causes:

>

> - In other cases, concentration difficulties may have physical

reasons like non-optimal diet, allergy, fatigue, dehydration,

hypoglycaemia, infection etc. that makes it hard to focus even on

topics of interest.

>

>

> - Or environmental factors like fluorescent lights, noise,

pressure, interruptions, mold, air-borne chemicals, poor ventilation,

movement in the room etc. - to which some may be more sensitive than

others.

>

> Inger

>

> P.S. Would anyone mind if I quoted bits of your discussions on this

topic, since y'all describe it so well? I already have some quotes

but could use a few more. I may also want to quote bits from other

discussions. Let me know if anyone has any objections to that. (I

think this is easier than me asking about every individual quote.)

>

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Thanks! Fatigue and distractions are sure causes of ADD for me. Or

often I will focus on something about a person that I'm more

interested in such as how they are saying things, the sound of their

voice or if I'm trying to determine what kind of person they are, and

not hear what they say, or I'll look at things with a creative eye

instead of a practical eye and these types of things I attribute to

purposeful ADD that I've engaged because of my own interests or

boredom or disinterest. But then there's non-purposeful ADD. One

thing I've noticed is that my brain has a mind of it's own. At times

it will automatically filter what it thinks is interesting without

regard for what's important. It will filter things I've heard before

even if I've forgotten them on a conscious level, will automatically

seize on the novel. Other times, such as when I'm involved in a

conversation and someone is taking a long time to say a simple thing,

my brain will filter out everything the person is saying except the

one important bit. Other times my brain will just not focus at all or

very poorly all around no matter what I do. So I think the most

frustrating thing is when my mind cannot control my brain!

>

> As far as I've been able to figure out, ADD may have natural/innate

and environmental causes, and a combination of both.

>

> Recycling bits of what I have written on the ADD page of my site:

>

> Natural causes:

>

> - Most likely due to focusing on external or internal sensations,

thoughts, intuitions and/or sensory input. This is also typical - and

natural - for the introvert and/or intuitive/creative personality

type who needs to be allowed enough time for introspection,

imagination, daydreaming and inspiration in order to learn and

create. Having a rich inner world is not a disorder.

> - It is also perfectly natural for children to have shorter

attention spans than adults. And what is considered 'normal' for

adults may be more based on social/educational/employer demands than

actual reality.

>

> - And it is equally normal for everyone to mainly be interested in

paying attention to things that are useful, interesting and relevant

to that particular individual.

>

> Environmental causes:

>

> - In other cases, concentration difficulties may have physical

reasons like non-optimal diet, allergy, fatigue, dehydration,

hypoglycaemia, infection etc. that makes it hard to focus even on

topics of interest.

>

>

> - Or environmental factors like fluorescent lights, noise,

pressure, interruptions, mold, air-borne chemicals, poor ventilation,

movement in the room etc. - to which some may be more sensitive than

others.

>

> Inger

>

> P.S. Would anyone mind if I quoted bits of your discussions on this

topic, since y'all describe it so well? I already have some quotes

but could use a few more. I may also want to quote bits from other

discussions. Let me know if anyone has any objections to that. (I

think this is easier than me asking about every individual quote.)

>

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Hi Christel

Pretty much anyone who eats a normal American SAD diet has ADD. It just isn't

possible for the brain to function well on funky fuel. They have made it a

syndrome, but it is just basic common sense. The body was created to run on

real food from nature, not manufactured food from the factory. Just give her

real food and I bet she will be smart as a whip.

.. . .hum. . .how smart is a whip? Perhaps smart as a smart person is a better

phrase. Smile

I don't mean to sound crass or whatever, but there is no need to find a support

group or discussion group. That's like looking for an answer to " why do I feel

tired when I don't sleep? " If her brain gets good fuel she won't have

difficulty paying attention or comprehending.

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My granddaughter just had a lot of testing done because she has a problem

>reading comprehension<

The final result was

>>mild case of ADD<

She is not hyperactive at all but gets distracted easy.

Somewhere a long time ago I read something about this but can't remember

anything because it was not of interest to me at the time.

Does anyone know if there is a support group or someplace where I can learn

how to deal with this? What I read was diet related.

Any input would be appreciated

Thank you kindly

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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:23 PM

> My granddaughter just had a lot of testing done because she has a problem

>>reading comprehension<

> The final result was

>>>mild case of ADD<

> She is not hyperactive at all but gets distracted easy.

> Somewhere a long time ago I read something about this but can't remember

> anything because it was not of interest to me at the time.

> Does anyone know if there is a support group or someplace where I can

> learn

> how to deal with this? What I read was diet related.

Hi Christel,

I have several files I've put together on the subject of ADD. If you'd like

me to share them with you by private email just let me know

starshar@...

Two years before I became a grandmother myself, I discovered that I have

lifelong ADD. Like your granddaughter, it was not the hyperactive variety.

There is so much info available on the 'net, you could be reading from now

till eternity, believe me!

Echoing Donna, I doubt that you would need a support group---except if it

would make YOU feel better. Most children with ADD are actually far above

average intellectually, but they do need some help in the focusing

department. Some of the best work is being done with biofeedback.

My own research tells me that Ritalin, et al, is rarely needed except in

certain physically related problems. There are many natural supplements that

have been used with success in ADD.

BTW, I'm a voracious reader and researcher, but still have terrible

comprehension problems! Yet, when I'm determined I can ace almost any test I

study for.

Look up Thom Hartmann's books on ADD at Amazon to get the really positive

picture of ADD. Thom himself has ADD and has led a life full of incredible

achievements.

Rest easy!

Sharon

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From: <Christelti@...>

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:23 PM

> My granddaughter just had a lot of testing done because she has a problem

>>reading comprehension<

> The final result was

>>>mild case of ADD<

> She is not hyperactive at all but gets distracted easy.

> Somewhere a long time ago I read something about this but can't remember

> anything because it was not of interest to me at the time.

> Does anyone know if there is a support group or someplace where I can

> learn

> how to deal with this? What I read was diet related.

Hi Christel,

I have several files I've put together on the subject of ADD. If you'd like

me to share them with you by private email just let me know

starshar@...

Two years before I became a grandmother myself, I discovered that I have

lifelong ADD. Like your granddaughter, it was not the hyperactive variety.

There is so much info available on the 'net, you could be reading from now

till eternity, believe me!

Echoing Donna, I doubt that you would need a support group---except if it

would make YOU feel better. Most children with ADD are actually far above

average intellectually, but they do need some help in the focusing

department. Some of the best work is being done with biofeedback.

My own research tells me that Ritalin, et al, is rarely needed except in

certain physically related problems. There are many natural supplements that

have been used with success in ADD.

BTW, I'm a voracious reader and researcher, but still have terrible

comprehension problems! Yet, when I'm determined I can ace almost any test I

study for.

Look up Thom Hartmann's books on ADD at Amazon to get the really positive

picture of ADD. Thom himself has ADD and has led a life full of incredible

achievements.

Rest easy!

Sharon

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For people with reading disorders, ADD etc., there is one system that helps

them to read. The person places a clear colored plastic sheet on top of the

page. The specific color is different for different people. A chiropractor I

know practices this and she says it not only helps her, but various children

and some adults that she treats.

You can read more about it here. The book that started it all is on Amazon

for a buck.

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>

> My granddaughter just had a lot of testing done because she has a

problem

> >reading comprehension<

> The final result was

> >>mild case of ADD<

When Bush wrote No Child Left Behind he wrote it for good reason, there

is scientific evidence that we as (reading) teachers have created some

reading problems, there is also a genetic factor with a preponderance of

afflicted males. While good nutrition fortifies the brain cell membrane

thus preventing rapid misfiring and superior cytoplasm; colored sheets

may help a few, both of these suggestions lack scientific evidence. By

that I mean a mathematically predicitable model that is reproducible (in

the classroom) and is peer-reviewed.

Check-out mood-Bell learning processes, LPLB.com. With treatment

gangster kids just aren't angry anymore, Rez kids actually want to

acculturate and Hispanic and African American kids gain just as much...

86% proficient in 4th grade.

Please question your testing process, your local school is obligated to

teach your child the way they learn...

No Child Left Behind is really WWIII!

XOX,

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Does anyone have any suggestions as to what foods/vitamin supplements help with

ADD symptoms? My son has developmental dyspraxia but via therapy we have really

come up the developmental ladder and he seems to be having more trouble with

lethargy and ADD symptoms more than anything else right now. I tried spinach

and it seems to help but then I read that there can be an opoid effect to

spinach too! (oh, will it never end!) We have no access to a DAN here in

Alberta, Canada and I am waiting for a dental appointment to remove a filling

otherwise I'd be heading down the lead pathway myself!

Again, know of any foods that help with ADD? (No HD issues, quite the opposite

for my sluggish lad). Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

Janice

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The resaon the spinach " helped " is:spinach is one of the richest

sources or FOLATE known; and Folate improves function; I have never

heard of Spinach as being an opiod; though I have heard of spinach

aas being an Oaxalate.

My point would be: I do not agree you should have stopped the spinach!

Everything we eat has either an opiod or an phyto estrogen; a phenol

or a bioflavinoid.

These are what foods are made of combined wiht Vits Mins Protein etc

I'd get him back on the Spinach immediateley and I mean this

seriously. Spinach is also high in Beta-Carotene; Vita. C; + Magnesium

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what foods/vitamin

supplements help with ADD symptoms? My son has developmental

dyspraxia but via therapy we have really come up the developmental

ladder and he seems to be having more trouble with lethargy and ADD

symptoms more than anything else right now. I tried spinach and it

seems to help but then I read that there can be an opoid effect to

spinach too! (oh, will it never end!) We have no access to a DAN

here in Alberta, Canada and I am waiting for a dental appointment to

remove a filling otherwise I'd be heading down the lead pathway

myself!

>

> Again, know of any foods that help with ADD? (No HD issues, quite

the opposite for my sluggish lad). Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you.

>

> Janice

>

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Anne,

I'm probably stating the obvious, and you probably already know this,

but just in case:

There are certain foods (or should I say additions to foods) you really

need to avoid, and they shouldn't be overlooked. The two biggest

offenders: MSG (in it varying forms) and high fructose corn syrup. Just

in case you hadn't heard.

I ditto the continue spinach.

P.

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(ps should reaad: Vitamin B4 is Choline)

Hello ? I think you meant to direct this to Janice good answer

though !

MSG is MonoSodium glutamate a toxic seaweed; the only knonw source

which contains both Sugar and Salt in a natural form. Not good.

MSG depeltes Vitamin B6 like a plague; Chinese food usu. has MSG.

A temporary Lack of Vitamin B6 caused by MSG can cause: " Carpel

tunnel syndrome; headaches; Bursitis and other like painful nerve

disorders. Just by elimiating chinese and other MSG Laden foods like

canned gravies and frozen food sauces; and increasing Vitamin B12;

Vitamin B6 + Folate; one can improve many undesirable symptons fast !

Thiamine Vitamin B1 is an absolute must in any " mood disorder or

similar ADHD symtons.

Remember your child is not a mold or to be molded !

Your child is an individual to be artistic or musically inclined;

even if this means only the appreciation of music so PLAY MUSIC; esp

good old tunes like and the Wolf and the Beach Boys or Beatles !

Music cheers the mood and uplifts the soul ! I cann't paly a note ! a

>

> Anne,

> I'm probably stating the obvious, and you probably already know

this,

> but just in case:

> There are certain foods (or should I say additions to foods) you

really

> need to avoid, and they shouldn't be overlooked. The two biggest

> offenders: MSG (in it varying forms) and high fructose corn syrup.

Just

> in case you hadn't heard.

> I ditto the continue spinach.

> P.

>

>

>

>

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Yes; there are powdered Greens usually referred to as

Super-Greens

There is one formula with an apple flavor; I'll send the info later.

thank you for your reply...

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what foods/vitamin

> > supplements help with ADD symptoms? My son has developmental

> > dyspraxia but via therapy we have really come up the

developmental

> > ladder and he seems to be having more trouble with lethargy and

ADD

> > symptoms more than anything else right now. I tried spinach and

it

> > seems to help but then I read that there can be an opoid effect

to

> > spinach too! (oh, will it never end!) We have no access to a

DAN

> > here in Alberta, Canada and I am waiting for a dental appointment

> to

> > remove a filling otherwise I'd be heading down the lead pathway

> > myself!

> > >

> > > Again, know of any foods that help with ADD? (No HD issues,

> quite

> > the opposite for my sluggish lad). Any advice would be

> appreciated.

> > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Janice

> > >

> > >

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Can you share what the tendon guard area exercise would be? From: Galister D'cruz <galister.dcruz@...>Subject: ADD Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 6:14 AM

Hi Grace,

My son's main issues right now are Auditory Processing and Attention Deficit. When we saw Dr Masgutova 2 weeks back, she worked specifically on these areas. The tendon guard was one area we were asked to work on. We noticed an improvement in my son's attention span almost immediately, about 5 days later. It lasted for about a week but since then, although we are doing the follow up , it appears to be waning. Possibly the fact that the quality of our work isnt as good as hers is making a difference. We are however hoping that if we keep at it, we'll see longer term improvement. I am also looking into why exactly he has attention deficit and trying to address those issues. As may know there are 6 types of AD/HD. My son isnt hyper but is inattentive. He has visual and auditory processing issues that may well be contributing to his problem. We hope Reflex can correct these.

Nesa,

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I did find that I thought " taurine " foods were crucial for my own ADD

kid (one of the older kids) - (about 2-3yrs ago) I was info slamming

food lists & comparing them to us, what we ate and when, working with

timelines & other fun stuff...I remember none of the pertinent details

(go figure, eh?), but I do know I tagged taurine as a specific need to

this one child of mine, and not so much with the others.

Omega 3's, I soo need a chart, lol...if the 3's are the same as

evening primrose range of EFA's, then this compares too - Evening

primrose oil was a staple at our house for many many years - we had a

smallish set of basic supplements that felt necessary & this was one

of them. If evening primrose is not one of the Omega 3's, well, then,

ummmm ;) not sure...I do know fish oil totally rocked for my migraine

girl, but did not feel like it slowed her down, as much as it just

made her brain work better - major social & verbal gains, along with

some startling " remembering " for her. One of the reasons I think kids

are taking in more than you know, more often than you know - just

waiting for the resources/healing/etc to access it. ...hmmmm, not

sure how helpful this is, but will post anyway ;) Whew! - busy busy

kids, nothing quite like em :)

wishing you the best answers, elizabeth

>

> I am doing a file review with ANdy. He sent me question sheet for ADD.

> My dd scored high on every ADD symptom. My question... would Taurine

> and Omega 3's help with ADD, and help to slow her down. She is like a

> motor.

>

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THanks for taking the time. LOL

On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:55 PM, eli8591 wrote:

> I did find that I thought " taurine " foods were crucial for my own ADD

> kid (one of the older kids) - (about 2-3yrs ago) I was info slamming

> food lists & comparing them to us, what we ate and when, working with

> timelines & other fun stuff...I remember none of the pertinent details

> (go figure, eh?), but I do know I tagged taurine as a specific need to

> this one child of mine, and not so much with the others.

>

> Omega 3's, I soo need a chart, lol...if the 3's are the same as

> evening primrose range of EFA's, then this compares too - Evening

> primrose oil was a staple at our house for many many years - we had a

> smallish set of basic supplements that felt necessary & this was one

> of them. If evening primrose is not one of the Omega 3's, well, then,

> ummmm ;) not sure...I do know fish oil totally rocked for my migraine

> girl, but did not feel like it slowed her down, as much as it just

> made her brain work better - major social & verbal gains, along with

> some startling " remembering " for her. One of the reasons I think kids

> are taking in more than you know, more often than you know - just

> waiting for the resources/healing/etc to access it. ...hmmmm, not

> sure how helpful this is, but will post anyway ;) Whew! - busy busy

> kids, nothing quite like em :)

>

> wishing you the best answers, elizabeth

>

>

> >

> > I am doing a file review with ANdy. He sent me question sheet for

> ADD.

> > My dd scored high on every ADD symptom. My question... would Taurine

> > and Omega 3's help with ADD, and help to slow her down. She is

> like a

> > motor.

> >

>

>

>

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> I am doing a file review with ANdy. He sent me question sheet for ADD.

> My dd scored high on every ADD symptom. My question... would Taurine

> and Omega 3's help with ADD, and help to slow her down. She is like a

> motor.

My ADHD child needed chelation, addressing phenol issues, yeast

issues, mito cocktail, and thyroid issues.

Dana

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