Re: What does your 6 year old hate about school?

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 7 and she hated school her kindergarten year, and honestly it was her teacher that really made it bad. I mean, the teacher seemed nice enough to me, but obviously something was very wrong because my NT daughter was in misery her entire time with her (we moved to Texas in October of that year). When she finally moved to first grade and a different teacher, I was grateful because she ended up having a wonderful year. For us a big part of it was the change, but the teacher as well....

Carolyn

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:12 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social

contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for

him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t

like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc. BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!

He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at

the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his

mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses

to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible

battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations,

they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they

mainstream him into a class of 20 kids! Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in

school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

My daughter (13) hates school too. She has been a problem to get

to school since preschool. She is even in a small private

school...hates it.

I think one problem is that social rejection/criticism leads

to depressed feelings and anxiety. This is one problem that

is hard to fix.

Another problem is my daughter prefers to focus on her

interests and finds school so BORING ...everything

gets boring quickly.

My daughter loves to add to collections and read about

her interests, stop her and she is EXPLOSIVE.

I have a behavior plan in place, if she hits me after

school, no computer for that night. And if she

hits again ..no TV ...she is old enough to go to

her room and draw or something. When she was younger

I didn't dare take away TV otherwise she would be

all over me (aggressive).

I think there is some dopamine issues (either not enough

and feels bored or perhaps too much and easily explosive).

Zoloft helped reduce anxiety alittle.

I am still trying to figure out what medication will

help with this issue of extreme stress/boredom followed

by explosive behavior at me.

I don't have any school solutions.

Pam

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> My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the

> amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to

> " escape " the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn't like the kids or the

> teachers etc etc etc.

>

>

>

> BUT when you talk to his teachers he is " fine " ! He appears to have fun, and

> interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all

> over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know

> what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge

> it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our

> district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove

> him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class

> of 20 kids!

>

>

>

> Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you

> explain it, fight for it etc?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!! I made the mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for "evaluation" and she acted like a little angel..... However, as soon as she got home it turned into a complete nightmare. I couldn't believe that this was the same child that did so well during school!

Carolyn

From: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

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My daughter is in 4th grade and she has the same behavior. She is the model student at school, occasionally getting frustrated but appears well adjusted and happy. She waits until I arrive and "spews" her frustration from her entire day at her sister and me. She spends the majority of her time in the evening melting down over homework and telling us we don't understand what she goes through everyday. When I was picking her up in the car rider line the automatic door wasn't closed all the way before she was melting down. Most teachers are not educated enough to understand or appreciate the our children are trying so hard to be "good" all day and wait for us to make it safe to "get it all out". We are just now getting tested now, but are told she will not qualify for any services through the school. Our only hope is ABA

therapy approved by our insurance. We will see if they can offer any guidance. Best Wishes!

From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?" " < >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:32 PM

Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!! I made the mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for "evaluation" and she acted like a little angel..... However, as soon as she got home it turned into a complete nightmare. I couldn't believe that this was the same child that did so well during school!

Carolyn

From: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

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[Guest guest]

As others have told me, you should fight for her rights. Our children are VERY intelligent, and can often hold it together academically to a certain point and then they fall apart. My hope is to prevent this for my daughter, although it is not going very well If they deny you services I would disagree with their assessment and get an advocate, in fact it already sounds like you need an advocate. What is so funny to me is that it isn't like most of us are asking for a ton of services, just a little help, and they deny deny deny these children any help. It is SO frustrating!

Carolyn

From: mbaet <mbaet@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:52 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My daughter is in 4th grade and she has the same behavior. She is the model student at school, occasionally getting frustrated but appears well adjusted and happy. She waits until I arrive and "spews" her frustration from her entire day at her sister and me. She spends the majority of her time in the evening melting down over homework and telling us we don't understand what she goes through everyday. When I was picking her up in the car rider line the automatic door wasn't closed all the way before she was melting down. Most teachers are not educated enough to understand or appreciate the our children are trying so hard to be "good" all day and wait for us to make it safe to "get it all out". We are just now getting tested now, but are told she will not qualify for any services through the school. Our only hope is ABA therapy approved by our insurance. We will see if they can offer any

guidance. Best Wishes!

From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?" " < >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:32 PM

Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!! I made the mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for "evaluation" and she acted like a little angel..... However, as soon as she got home it turned into a complete nightmare. I couldn't believe that this was the same child that did so well during school!

Carolyn

From: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

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[Guest guest]

I don't know what the solution is? We advocated and won a private school

placement where the pace is slower, the teachers are

so kind and helpful yet this same behavior persists with the

after school irritability. My daughter is in classes with less

than 8 kids, she has a set small group for lunch, she has

3 social skill clubs each week (girls craft club, girls lunch

and a walk to the deli with girls). She still complains

that school is too long and it is wasting her time. They

have a science room with a bunny, rat and other pets that

she can go to at the end of the day and hold the animals

(she loves animals). To me it looks like a mood disorder

(irritable) what else can it be? Zoloft did not reduce this

irritability. Of course the mood is better in the summer but

there is no pressure or stress in the summer.

Pam

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> >From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>

> >Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

> > " " < >

> >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:32 PM

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> >Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!!  I made the

mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for

" evaluation " and she acted like a little angel.....  However, as soon as she

got home it turned into a complete nightmare.  I couldn't believe that this was

the same child that did so well during school!

> >Carolyn

> >

> >From: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...>

> >

> >Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PM

> >Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

> >

> > 

> >My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other

parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for

having him as a student!  I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he

does great.  He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on

the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come

out and wow, it's like 2 different people.  I spoke with the school

psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really

frustrated.  I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really

understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....

> >From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...>

> >

> >Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AM

> >Subject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

> > 

> >

> >My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the

amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to

“escape†the chaos.  The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or

the teachers etc etc etc. 

> > 

> >BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!  He appears to have fun,

and interact.  He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all

over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes.  As his mom I of course know

what this is.  But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. 

Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our

district.  Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him

from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20

kids!

> > 

> >Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you

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>

[Guest guest]

My 7yr old daughter is once again being homeschooled, which is a decision we are comfortable with. But in the short 3 months that she was in school, she hated recess because of the unstructured, chaotic nature of it (and bullies, of course).. She hated lunch because of the smells and the "gross food" and the noise. She hated music class because she had to stand there and sing and couldn't move around or do anything else. She hated math because she wasn't getting proper help with it. She tried to ride the bus once and declared she would never do that again.

Anyway, as for the cafeteria.. We had some guidelines in place to keep my daughter from having sensory overload.. No one with a tray is supposed to sit near her.. Only kids who brought their lunch. And if she feels sick, she is supposed to ask someone to take her out.

There wasn't much we could do about the unstructured portions of the day, like recess. All she would do during recess was gather nuts and rocks and put them into piles. Then some kid would come along and kick it, which was very upsetting to her. She got called "dumb" once or twice, which was very upsetting to ME!

Anyway, she is home now and much happier without all the kids, smells, and chaos around her. If you are interested in homeschooling, there are some good for homeschooling Aspies.

Misty

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

you are so right - that is what is so frustrating - IDEA and FAPE mean nothing to the school districts here - in their mind set Aspergers does not afect education so they do not need to interevene. You have to fight for yor child's rights and prove everything in our school district

From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>" " < >Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 7:24:53 AMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

As others have told me, you should fight for her rights. Our children are VERY intelligent, and can often hold it together academically to a certain point and then they fall apart. My hope is to prevent this for my daughter, although it is not going very well If they deny you services I would disagree with their assessment and get an advocate, in fact it already sounds like you need an advocate. What is so funny to me is that it isn't like most of us are asking for a ton of services, just a little help, and they deny deny deny these children any help. It is SO frustrating!

Carolyn

From: mbaet <mbaet@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:52 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My daughter is in 4th grade and she has the same behavior. She is the model student at school, occasionally getting frustrated but appears well adjusted and happy. She waits until I arrive and "spews" her frustration from her entire day at her sister and me. She spends the majority of her time in the evening melting down over homework and telling us we don't understand what she goes through everyday. When I was picking her up in the car rider line the automatic door wasn't closed all the way before she was melting down. Most teachers are not educated enough to understand or appreciate the our children are trying so hard to be "good" all day and wait for us to make it safe to "get it all out". We are just now getting tested now, but are told she will not qualify for any services through the school. Our only hope is ABA therapy approved by our insurance. We will see if they can offer any

guidance. Best Wishes!

From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?" " < >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:32 PM

Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!! I made the mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for "evaluation" and she acted like a little angel..... However, as soon as she got home it turned into a complete nightmare. I couldn't believe that this was the same child that did so well during school!

Carolyn

From: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though). Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos. We are on our own with trying to get in home help....

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

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I have the exact same experience with my child! Careyhttp://www.GreenDiaperStore.comSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: mbaet <mbaet@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:52:53 -0800 (PST)< >Reply Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school? My daughter is in 4th grade and she has the same behavior. She is the model student at school, occasionally getting frustrated but appears well adjusted and happy. She waits until I arrive and "spews" her frustration from her entire day at her sister and me. She spends the majority of her time in the evening melting down over homework and telling us we don't understand what she goes through everyday. When I was picking her up in the car rider line the automatic door wasn't closed all the way before she was melting down. Most teachers are not educated enough to understand or appreciate the our children are trying so hard to be "good" all day and wait for us to make it safe to "get it all out". We are just now getting tested now, but are told she will not qualify for any services through the school. Our only hope is ABAtherapy approved by our insurance. We will see if they can offer any guidance. Best Wishes!From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?" " < >Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 5:32 PM Wow, I think that this is the problem I am having right now!!! I made the mistake of allowing my daughter to attend a few days of preschool for "evaluation" and she acted like a little angel..... However, as soon as she got home it turned into a complete nightmare. I couldn't believe that this was the same child that did so well during school!CarolynFrom: Abatangelo <stephanie.abatangelo@...> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:45 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school? My son who will be 6 in April says the same thing and his teacher and other parent helpers say the same as your sons teacher, in fact she's thankful for having him as a student! I've been in there to help on a few occasions and he does great. He appears to be engaged, learning and playing (mostly alone on the playground though).Once we get home or even to the car, his true colors come out and wow, it's like 2 different people. I spoke with the school psychologist and he was in disbelief...until he saw him react when he was really frustrated. I think he needs more experience with Aspies in order to really understand these kiddos.We are on our own with trying to get in home help....From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school? My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc. BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids! Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?Finding fabulous fares is fun.Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

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My 11 year old is the exact same way. He can't stand a single thing about school. He hasn't for years. He tries very hard to keep his "autistic moments" from causing any issues at school, and I think he uses all his available energy to do this. The teachers think he's a great kid, lots of potential, etc. But to hear it from him, he's just shy of being abused.FawnFrom: Blessed Mom

<blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:12:21 AMSubject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social

contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for

him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t

like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc. BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!

He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at

the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his

mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses

to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible

battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations,

they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they

mainstream him into a class of 20 kids! Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in

school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

Have you considered looking into homeschooling? You might be surprised how realistic it is. I know I am. We're going to start unofficial homeschool over the summer ( first time my daughter will be on extended vacation from school since starting at almost 3! ) I will see how it goes. She'll still get her services from the district but will be home otherwise.I mention this because my daughter is just in kindergarten and I already see the stress wearing on her. The other day she came home in tears because she had 'got in trouble' for not handing in her folder to the teacher in time so she could write in it for home (the spec ed class). It's absolutely ridiculous. I would've told the teacher to stick the folder somewhere had I been there. H6 yo Aspie girlOn Feb 10, 2011, at 10:12 AM, "Blessed Mom" <blessedmom1305@...> wrote:

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My son hates school, everything about school.. the social

contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for

him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t

like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!

He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at

the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his

mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses

to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible

battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations,

they remove him from the Therapeutic

School with 4 kids they

mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in

school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

I removed my child from school a few months ago in Kind also. We are home schooling also. I gave him some time first to decompress. It took a few days for him to get the idea he wouldn't be forced to go back and start sleeping again. I hated to watch him hate school and hating school was leading to hating to learn and I couldn't stomach that for him. I left and didn't return with him when they said they were trained in aspergers because the teacher read a pamphlet. Also when asked the teacher said she had a zero tolerance for his behavior and expected compliance of her class rules.. My husband asked how many times is he warned before he gets in trouble she said no warnings, he should just follow the rules. BUt he couldn't and he knew it and then started spitting when stressed. I had started back to college in Sept and got one semester finished when I realized he needed me more than I needed college classes. So I am now on the 15 year college plan, I hope to graduate some year before I need dentures.

Home schooling doesn't take all day when they are this young, also there are soooo many resources now.

also a good home school support group is great.

Just my 2 cents on home schooling. I have been home schooling now for 11 years plus preschool for my oldest children. The reason I took him to public school (my 5 year old) was to socialize and because I thought they could help him more than I could. I'm not sure how much socilaization or learning is taking place in that school when they line up and cant talk, have 10 minute recess when they arent in trouble and get sent to the principals office often to sit. I learned fast it wasn't the best place for him. I hope to one day think back on that school and be less annoyed.. we will see..

sandy

In a message dated 2/11/2011 7:12:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jenuhferr@... writes:

Have you considered looking into homeschooling? You might be surprised how realistic it is. I know I am. We're going to start unofficial homeschool over the summer ( first time my daughter will be on extended vacation from school since starting at almost 3! ) I will see how it goes. She'll still get her services from the district but will be home otherwise.

I mention this because my daughter is just in kindergarten and I already see the stress wearing on her. The other day she came home in tears because she had 'got in trouble' for not handing in her folder to the teacher in time so she could write in it for home (the spec ed class). It's absolutely ridiculous. I would've told the teacher to stick the folder somewhere had I been there.

H

6 yo Aspie girl

On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:12 AM, "Blessed Mom" <blessedmom1305@...> wrote:

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My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

I have 3 Aspies and we have also been homeschooling for about 11 years, but I did recently try my most difficult Aspie (7yr old) in public school because she was being such a handful at home. It turned out to be a mistake and she is back at home. One day the music teacher brought in another teacher who was not familiar with my daughter's diagnosis to "yell" at the kids to behave (they were practicing a stage performance that was to be showcased in a week's time). Of course, my daughter was the most confused and moving around the most so she got the yelling directed at her. She came home in tears that day, refusing to go back. She had been trying so hard to hold her autistic tendencies in and appear normal and not get into any trouble.. So it just crushed

her when she got yelled at simply for being confused and not knowing where to stand, etc. I talked to the teacher and the principal about that incident... they came up with a plan to pull my daughter out of music halfway through because it was too long for her (of course, nothing was said to the teacher).. So we tried that.. But it wasn't long before another incident happened that crushed her.. One day, I was parked just outside of the playground fence and I told my daughter I was going to drive around to the other side of the building and meet her in the front at the playground entrance.. Well, she thought I told her to walk around the fence to where I was parked.. So she left the playground and began to walk outside of the fence to where I had been parked (I had already left). A teacher who was not familiar with her, saw her and started yelling at her to "get back in the fence right now and don't ever do that again".. My

daughter stared at the ground while trying to explain to the teacher that I had told her to come that way in her small, monotonous voice.. The teacher couldn't understand her and started yelling more because she thought my daughter was trying to argue or be disobedient. I met with the teacher and explained what had happened.. but she was short with me and I didn't get to explain the part about her having Asperger's and that she gets easily confused. My daughter was crushed once again.. Yelled at just for being confused! How many more times was she going to get confused in the next 10 years? That would be a lot of yelling at my daughter!

A week later, my daughter's teacher fed her one of her allergens even though she knew not to..

So we're done with it.

Misty

From: "boogermeanie@..." <boogermeanie@...> Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 7:09:20 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

I removed my child from school a few months ago in Kind also. We are home schooling also. I gave him some time first to decompress. It took a few days for him to get the idea he wouldn't be forced to go back and start sleeping again. I hated to watch him hate school and hating school was leading to hating to learn and I couldn't stomach that for him. I left and didn't return with him when they said they were trained in aspergers because the teacher read a pamphlet. Also when asked the teacher said she had a zero tolerance for his behavior and expected compliance of her class rules.. My husband asked how many times is he warned before he gets in trouble she said no warnings, he should just follow the rules. BUt he couldn't and he knew it and then started spitting when stressed. I had started back to college in Sept and got one semester finished when I realized he needed me more than I needed

college classes. So I am now on the 15 year college plan, I hope to graduate some year before I need dentures.

Home schooling doesn't take all day when they are this young, also there are soooo many resources now.

also a good home school support group is great.

Just my 2 cents on home schooling. I have been home schooling now for 11 years plus preschool for my oldest children. The reason I took him to public school (my 5 year old) was to socialize and because I thought they could help him more than I could. I'm not sure how much socilaization or learning is taking place in that school when they line up and cant talk, have 10 minute recess when they arent in trouble and get sent to the principals office often to sit. I learned fast it wasn't the best place for him. I hope to one day think back on that school and be less annoyed.. we will see..

sandy

In a message dated 2/11/2011 7:12:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jenuhferr@... writes:

Have you considered looking into homeschooling? You might be surprised how realistic it is. I know I am. We're going to start unofficial homeschool over the summer ( first time my daughter will be on extended vacation from school since starting at almost 3! ) I will see how it goes. She'll still get her services from the district but will be home otherwise.

I mention this because my daughter is just in kindergarten and I already see the stress wearing on her. The other day she came home in tears because she had 'got in trouble' for not handing in her folder to the teacher in time so she could write in it for home (the spec ed class). It's absolutely ridiculous. I would've told the teacher to stick the folder somewhere had I been there.

H

6 yo Aspie girl

On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:12 AM, "Blessed Mom" <blessedmom1305@...> wrote:

<image001.jpg>

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

No one could go near her with a tray?

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear about the homeschooling groups for aspies. After seeing Race To Nowhere I don't think we will even try middle school. Careyhttp://www.GreenDiaperStore.comSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:14:38 -0500 (EST)< >Reply Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school? No one could go near her with a tray? Roxanna“Our lives begin to end the day webecome silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr. ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school? My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc. BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids! Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

Yes, only kids who brought their lunch could sit across from her or next to her. It was a rule we had in place for her to be able to tolerate being in the cafeteria.

Misty

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:14:38 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

No one could go near her with a tray?

Roxanna“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

Also, she was supposed to sit at the end of the table so she didn't feel crowded and surrounded by gross food.

Misty

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:14:38 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

No one could go near her with a tray?

Roxanna“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

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[Guest guest]

obviously, I didn't ask enough of the question. Why?

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

[Guest guest]

Because she is very sensitive to smells and food textures. She gags easy and pukes often.

Misty

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 6:14:56 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

obviously, I didn't ask enough of the question. Why?

Roxanna“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?

Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit.

[Guest guest]

What a challenge! I hope that she is doing much better now...

>

> Yes, only kids who brought their lunch could sit across from her or next to

> her.  It was a rule we had in place for her to be able to tolerate being in

the

> cafeteria.

>

> Misty

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:14:38 PM

> Subject: Re: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

>

>  

> No one could go near her with a tray? 

>

>

> Roxanna

> “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter.†-

> Luther King, Jr.

>

>

>

> ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

>

>  

>

> My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount

> of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escapeâ€

the

> chaos.  The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc

etc

> etc. 

>

>  

> BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!  He appears to have fun,

and

> interact.  He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all

over

> me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes.  As his mom I of course know what

this

> is.  But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it.  Im a

very

> experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. 

Advocates

> and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic

> School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

>  

> Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you

explain

> it, fight for it etc?

>

[Guest guest]

I admire all the home-schoolers. I really do. I consider myself to be a

part-time homeschooler and I actually quite enjoy it. My husband and I do a lot

of reinforcement of what the kids are learning on the weekends and throw in

things they ARE NOT learning in schools because schools are so worried about

test scores that they forget our children need to know other stuff. I love that

aspect of homeschooling and find I'm learning stuff I ever knew. Since it's

Black History Month and also Lincoln's birthday and President's Day this month,

our kids are learning a lot at home about Africa, African-American history along

with all of the presidents and their contributions. So...that's why I say we

are part-time homeschoolers because we teach and expose our kids to stuff like

this away from traditional school. Someday I may be a full-time homeschooler,

but I don't know.

For now, my kids really need the social elements of school. They are not as

mature/emotionally developed/centerned as their peers. And, my son can be very

impulsive/excited/hyperactive. My daughter can as well, but she manages a

little better. My son really, really needs to be in an acadmic environment

where there's peer-modeling and the opportunity to further develop his social

skills. Is it a struggle sometimes for him? You bet! I know it is. But, I

think that " struggle " part is going to help get him over the hump. If so, we'll

have to re-group and re-evaluate down the line.

Anyway, I think homeschooling is great if you're fortunate enough to do it. It

is a blessing to be able to have a lifestyle where you can do it.

> >

> >

> > 

> >><image001.jpg>

> >>My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the

amount

> >>of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to

“escape†the

> >>chaos.  The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers

etc etc

> >>etc. 

> >>

> >>BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€!  He appears to have

fun, and

> >>interact.  He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all

over

> >>me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes.  As his mom I of course know what

this

> >>is.  But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it.  Im a

very

> >>experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. 

Advocates

> >>and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the

Therapeutic

> >>School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

> >>Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you

explain

> >>it, fight for it etc?

>

[Guest guest]

By the amount of responses I see it is

typical for Aspies. I guess the question then is, how do we translate for

them needing help and accommodations when they “appear” ok in

school?

My son has refused to go to school all

week and unless I was to physically force him dressed and into the car (which I

refuse to do) then he doesn’t go. But the school (who in the fall

will be mandating he is in school, right now our state law is Sept of the year

they turn 6) doesn’t complain and won’t make accommodations or

return him to the Therapeutic

School. What do I

do?

Denel

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Blessed Mom

Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011

10:12 AM

Subject: ( ) What

does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates

school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too

many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape” the

chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the

teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you

talk to his teachers he is “fine”! He appears to have fun,

and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally

all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course

know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to

acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible

battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3

hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School

with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of

you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight

for it etc?

[Guest guest]

hates substitutes, changes in schedule, not having firends, people no following the way he wants things done, not getting to play legos all day, boring, stupid, has to sit too long, other kids bother him, kid on the bus talks to him about superheros which he hates.... you get the point

my son would hate a therapeutic school too, so I think they just have to hate it. School is part of life and how many NT kids hate school? I think we help them navigate the real challenges there but some day it will be work - how many people hate their job but still have to go day in and day out? - it is life and we all have to learn sooner or later to get through it no matter what our challenge is.

From: Blessed Mom <blessedmom1305@...> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 4:45:51 PMSubject: RE: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

By the amount of responses I see it is typical for Aspies. I guess the question then is, how do we translate for them needing help and accommodations when they “appear†ok in school?

My son has refused to go to school all week and unless I was to physically force him dressed and into the car (which I refuse to do) then he doesn’t go. But the school (who in the fall will be mandating he is in school, right now our state law is Sept of the year they turn 6) doesn’t complain and won’t make accommodations or return him to the Therapeutic School . What do I do?

Denel

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Blessed MomSent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: ( ) What does your 6 year old hate about school?

My son hates school, everything about school.. the social contacts, the amount of work, too many kids in the class, not enough breaks for him to “escape†the chaos. The cafeteria smells, he doesn’t like the kids or the teachers etc etc etc.

BUT when you talk to his teachers he is “fineâ€! He appears to have fun, and interact. He comes out of school and explodes at the seams, verbally all over me, aggressively like a maniac sometimes. As his mom I of course know what this is. But we are stuck in a district that refuses to acknowledge it. Im a very experienced mom, but fighting an impossible battle with our district. Advocates and IEPs later, after 3 hospitalizations, they remove him from the Therapeutic School with 4 kids they mainstream him into a class of 20 kids!

Can some of you tell me what your kids struggle with in school, how you explain it, fight for it etc?