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I'm a single parent with a 12yo ds who is an Aspie. His father hasn't thought there has been anything wrong with him for a long time, but recently I think he is either changing his mind or humoring me. Not really sure which one. BeckyFrom: belita.rossin <bsrossin@...> Sent: Sat,

January 23, 2010 1:09:41 PMSubject: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Well, you are in the right place for support! Sometimes even being 'married' doesnt mean that you are dealing with it with someone else! I feel more like a single mom than a married mom 95% of the time. Good luck wiht you son! My son is 14 with a AS/ADHD/Anxiety/Sensory issues... it can be tough but you can always lean on everyone in this group. There are some great suggestions on this board!

( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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I totally agree. I am married and my dh hasn't been with for any of the testing

and dx with the doctors and school. It is hrad for him to get time of work, I

know, but he is just too happy to not even try. He just sits back and lets me

handle it all. I get very resentful. I would rather know waking up in the

morning that everything is all on me then not know what he will feel like doing

or not doing that day. I'm trying to get better at not expecting anything from

him because that only fuels my resentment.

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> Well, you are in the right place for support! Sometimes even being 'married'

doesnt mean that you are dealing with it with someone else! I feel more like a

single mom than a married mom 95% of the time. Good luck wiht you son! My son is

14 with a AS/ADHD/Anxiety/Sensory issues... it can be tough but you can always

lean on everyone in this group. There are some great suggestions on this board!

> ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

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> It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a

single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad,

my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as

having problems since " he's just like me " .

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My

ex had been insisting our son is “normal” and undermining all of

our son’s therapy. It would have better if he was an absent father. We

were lucky the therapist was the one who picked it up last September. It was

very embarrassing that we had not noticed the lack of eye contact until then.

He was being evaluated for Depression.

My

son’s psychologist finally demanded that he do co-parenting sessions with

me or she would get a court order. She has had to do that for the past 20

years!

My

oldest son was diagnosed with ADD 8 years ago. He inherited that from his dad

too.

The

boys are 3 years apart and were extremely close until my older one went away to

college in September. He did an excellent job learning to become organized and

prepared very well for the tough competitive atmosphere of UC with the

help of Concerta.

Unfortunately,

the younger one took it hard. He started verbally and physically attacking his

brother since he was unable to understand the feelings of abandonment he was

going through. Now the boys are no longer close and it’s so sad. The

older one had been patient, but couldn’t take the abuse any more. He

will only come home when the dorms are closed for vacation. He never calls his

brother anymore.

The

younger one has emotionally cut off his brother which led to more depression.

The

boys couldn’t be more opposite. My older one was the most empathetic son

any one could imagine and is “therapist” to all his friends and

even everyone in his dorm. He’s been asked to be an RA next year!

I’m

so horribly lonely because of the empty nest and being left with a son who is

more like a “robot” with zero empathy, no interest in conversations

and stays in his room 24/7.

Thanks

for letting me vent.

Belita

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OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me.

Tracey

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His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Hi

I am a single mom of three children. One of which (my daughter age 9) has AD/HFA with a secondary diagnosis of ADHD. Her dad does not accept the diagnosis and is not willing to work with me, he uses the same line that you didwhen it comes to our daughter "she is just like me". He lives 6 hours away and does not take the time of day to even call her, on the odd occasion she gets to see her dad I have a war on my hand for the entire week folowing.

You are not alone no matter how much you feel that way.

What state are you in?

From: belita.rossin <bsrossin@...>Subject: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:09 PM

It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Thanks Tracey,

It makes me feel better that someone else knows what I'm going through. My ex

doesn't believe what the therapist says though! He has it in his head that

because I found her, she must be on " my side " ! That's why he continued to

undermine our son's therapy.

Naturally, instead of getting a second opinion, he just continued to complain

and be non-compliant with the therapist.

So, the therapist and I hired a psychologist to the tune of nearly $2000 in

tests and evaluations to show my ex what's wrong with our son. He is a concrete

thinker and could only understand numbers.

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> OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault,

> blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a

> dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me.

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> Tracey

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> In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex,

> moonfly_jenn@... writes:

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> His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see

> our son as having problems since " he's just like me " .

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It's extremely difficult to live your life depending on someone who is not

dependable. It can also cause unnecessary stress and depression having your

life feel like it's not within your control. I recommned taking control of what

you can and " should " .

If he complains, then he has no one to blame but himself for not being involved.

At least, after 4 months of " pulling teeth " from my ex and beginning to suspect

he had early dementia, he honestly admittted that his focus was and always will

be his work and his own needs.

I felt like an idiot that I forgot this is why we divorced, but I didn't think

it would apply to his children!

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> > Well, you are in the right place for support! Sometimes even being 'married'

doesnt mean that you are dealing with it with someone else! I feel more like a

single mom than a married mom 95% of the time. Good luck wiht you son! My son is

14 with a AS/ADHD/Anxiety/Sensory issues... it can be tough but you can always

lean on everyone in this group. There are some great suggestions on this board!

> > ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

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> > It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a

single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad,

my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as

having problems since " he's just like me " .

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I live in Northern California. Where are you?

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> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:09 PM

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> It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a single

parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad, my ex,

has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having

problems since " he's just like me " .

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Does anyone live in upstate NY, near Albany? That's where we are.

Benita

From: belita.rossin <bsrossin@...> Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 2:54:57 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

,I live in Northern California. Where are you?> > > From: belita.rossin <bsrossin@.. .>> Subject: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?> > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 7:09 PM> > > Â > > > > It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".>

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I saw that, it sounds like perhaps your ex will at least be able to understand there is some sort of issue now. Maybe. Our situation was similar, with my ex finally "admitting" that perhaps there was something to our son's difficulties after a psychiatrist was extremely direct with him. My ex did his best (which is a very limited best, IMO) to be supportive of my efforts after that, since the psychiatrist also told him that he should support whatever I was trying to do with our son.After that he stopped fighting me as much, however he still likes to assert his opinions about my horrid parenting every once in awhile. Our son doesn't really want to have much to do with him, because he's never taken the time to figure out how to communicate with his son. Again, though, I do believe he does the best he can, given his (IMO) limited emotional capacity. And, I try to help our son see that his dad loves him.My basic goal throughout my son's growing years was to minimize the arguments, so I worked really hard at being kind to my ex (he might disagree with this!) and listening to him, even though I wasn't necessarily going to change my plan of action based on his input. I know that some single moms have it much worse, with an ex who is trying to assert parental authority, while not really contributing to solving problems.Finally, when my son entered college, we moved to a different state, and it's been really nice to live far away. :-)Sara> > >> > > It's tough managing this on my own and haven't met anyone yet who is a> > single parent. My son was just diagnosed yesterday more as a PDD-NOS. > > His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see> > our son as having problems since "he's just like me".> > >> >>

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Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that

they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo

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OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault,

blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a

dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me.

Tracey

In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex,

moonfly_jenn@... writes:

His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see

our son as having problems since " he's just like me " .

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Dang..... my kid and I aren't perfect!? :)

I so wish we were!!!!!

Actually, there are two aspie kids and the aspie husband. I am still trying to figure out if it is me that is crazy or is it all three of them? Generally, when everyone else but myself is crazy, then it is a sign that it is me. In this case, I'm just not quite sure. :)

Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Hi friends,my son's father,has alot of the same issues,but does not support me at all.that's not okay but i just keep on trying to help my son wich is very important ,Mom of a17yrsAspie,Angel Blessings

From: Geo Dude <geo.dude@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? , happybrats3@...Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 8:14 PM

Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo- Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M.

Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Were we all married to the same person? My ex is a heartless cardiologist. My

son was born with numerous birth problems one of which was obvious on the

ultrasounds. As everything was repaired surgically, our son was developmentally

delayed and needed therapy. As time went one, I realized that there was another

problem-- AS. By then my ex had moved out and married his girlfriend. Had

originally told me that he was going to talk my super brilliant daughter for

visitations but not out son since he was a handful. Of course, he lost that

argument, but he never bonded with DS. Son realized that in order for Dad to pay

attention to him, he had to learn about sports and become interested in them,

although he would not play them himself. Ex set son up with a psychologist

because of the behavior issues. Psychologist and ex both insisted I was stupid

for saying DS had AS, it was totally my lack of parenting as far as the ex was

concerned and the psychologist said it was just so he could get his father's

attention. When DS was 16, his father wanted him drugged which a psychologist

can't do so he once again found a doctor-- a psychiatrist who is licensed to

drug son. After the initial visits, the psychiatrist told the ex, his wife and

me that DS definitely has AS, I was right all along, and he REFUSED to drug son

unless son wanted to be drugged. After that, every time DS did something his

father or stepmother did not like, they would say " That's because you have AS " ,

or blame it on me as a lousy parent.

Today DS is 20, in his second year at community college which he loves since it

does not have all the backlash problems you see in middle and high school. He

had a girlfriend for almost a year who broke up with him last week-- before one

of his classes and did it in the cafeteria. DS is actually coping quite well. He

is planning to get out of town for spring break and also to go back to Orlando

to see his sister for a weekend. He seems to have learned his coping skills.

Debbi in SO CA

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> > OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault,

> > blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a

> > dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me.

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> > Tracey

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> > In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex,

> > moonfly_jenn@ writes:

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> > His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see

> > our son as having problems since " he's just like me " .

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Good grief. That is a painful story to read. But

sounds like your son has developed some good coping skills. I was watching “the

middle” a while back and the mother had a great line which was “a

mother is only as happy as her least happy child”. Isn’t that

the truth? Hope you are holding up okay.

Regards, melody

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myex husband didn't want to admit it that asperger's is a male dominate trait and is sex linked meaning follows the male blood linemy I ex's whole family can be traced back 2 generations. I told my son's dr to study them. had i known i would have never married him, but i wouldn't have been blessed with my son, who is much more every day like his mother not his dad. LOLI also have a 3 yo girl who is normal development and talks your ear offgood luck From: macmomma27@...Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:13:07 -0800Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

Hi friends,my son's father,has alot of the same issues,but does not support me at all.that's not okay but i just keep on trying to help my son wich is very important ,Mom of a17yrsAspie,Angel Blessings

From: Geo Dude <geo.dudeymail>Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? , happybrats3aolDate: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 8:14 PM

Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo- Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M.

Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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Austism runs on the maternal side of my family, not the paternal.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Beth Schmidt <rnrace1@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:05:29 PMSubject: RE: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

myex husband didn't want to admit it that asperger's is a male dominate trait and is sex linked meaning follows the male blood linemy I ex's whole family can be traced back 2 generations. I told my son's dr to study them. had i known i would have never married him, but i wouldn't have been blessed with my son, who is much more every day like his mother not his dad. LOLI also have a 3 yo girl who is normal development and talks your ear offgood luck

From: macmomma27 (DOT) comDate: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:13:07 -0800Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

Hi friends,my son's father,has alot of the same issues,but does not support me at all.that's not okay but i just keep on trying to help my son wich is very important ,Mom of a17yrsAspie, Angel Blessings

From: Geo Dude <geo.dudeymail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? , happybrats3@ aol.comDate: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 8:14 PM

Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo- Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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> that asperger's is a male dominate trait and is sex linked meaning >follows

the male blood line

Can you please cite your scientific source for this.

(Although it really does not make a difference with respect to caring for your

child. Hopefully further studies can reduce the frequency of the disorder and so

understanding why it occurs is important).

Thank you,

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Drs. Fred Volkmor and Ani Klin reported statistics supporting this over 10 yrs ago. The population of AS diagnoses is 75% male. Very Truly YoursTodd B. KotlerAttorney and Counselor at Law330-777-0065 Phone-Fax-VoicemailSent via BlackBerry by AT&T. Please excuse any terseness or misspellings. (Those who know me already expect both) This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may be protected by attorney-client privilege. However, the mere receipt of this e-mail, alone, is not sufficient to create an attorney-client relationship. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank youFrom: "marcontheroad" <marcontheroad@...>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:45:55 -0000< >Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? > that asperger's is a male dominate trait and is sex linked meaning >follows the male blood lineCan you please cite your scientific source for this.(Although it really does not make a difference with respect to caring for your child. Hopefully further studies can reduce the frequency of the disorder and so understanding why it occurs is important).Thank you,

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Do you have any proof either way for this? I thought this was still a grey area, as I understand it, it is thought Aspergers/ other forms of autism may be caused by abnormal embrionic cell migration during foetal development, perhaps associated with chromosome 17, but they have not yet identified a gene or allele that codes for Aspergers.

If a gene has not been identified I don't understand how you can definatively say it follows the male or female linage.

Please advise.

From: Geo Dude <geo.dudeymail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? , happybrats3@ aol.comDate: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 8:14 PM

Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo- Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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I'm not saying it definitively does one way or the other. I'm just saying austism runs on my mother's side of the family. I think maybe your question might be for the original poster though?

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Lorraine son <lorrainedavidson12@...> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:09:25 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?

Do you have any proof either way for this? I thought this was still a grey area, as I understand it, it is thought Aspergers/ other forms of autism may be caused by abnormal embrionic cell migration during foetal development, perhaps associated with chromosome 17, but they have not yet identified a gene or allele that codes for Aspergers.

If a gene has not been identified I don't understand how you can definatively say it follows the male or female linage.

Please advise.

From: Geo Dude <geo.dudeymail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's? , happybrats3@ aol.comDate: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 8:14 PM

Some people cant admit their child isnt perfect because they cant admit that they themswlves arent perfect or to blame in some way. geo- Re: ( ) Any Single Parent of Asperger's?OH MY GOD that comment is SOOOOOOOOOO my ex husband! It's all my fault, blah blah blah. He'll only admit our son has issues when he talks to a dr./therapist etc. He refuses to admit it to me. Tracey In a message dated 1/24/2010 9:58:17 A.M. Central Standard Time (Mex, moonfly_jenn writes:His dad, my ex, has not been determined to have the same and doesn't see our son as having problems since "he's just like me".

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It does sound like we are

all married to the same person which makes me feel better in some weird way.

Thank goodness your son was

finally diagnosed correctly. As a retired pediatrician, I would have tried to

get a second opinion. My experience has been that nobody knows their child

better than the child’s mother! There are subtleties that only a mother

would see.

It’s unfortunate that

dad and stepmom are not very caring “parents” and still like to

refuse any responsibility on their part for how your son magically “inherited”

this disorder. Considering how sensitive you are, I wouldn’t doubt that

the AS came from dad’s side of the family.

It gives me hope to hear

that your son has managed community college and even had a girlfriend; despite

the lack of support from his father and stepmother.

He has YOU to thank for

that.

Belita

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I just wanted to comment

how many people have noted that “dad’s side” of the family

had the AS traits, but I also want to mention that I discussed inheritance of

this disorder with a research psychologist on Friday since I was unable to find

anything on the Internet.

My concern was for my other

“non ASD” older son who is hesitant about fathering another ASPIE.

He saw that it can be transmitted through a non-ASD person; his aunt whose 10

yr old has AS.

I was told by the

researcher that there still hasn’t been any conclusive evidence of

inheritance for any of the ASD diagnoses. I would truly appreciate a link to

the information regarding the “male dominant trait/sex link”.

I also met some people in a

support group who had daughters with AS, but inherited from dad.

In addition, I have a

therapist who treats many people who are children of AS parents. She has seen

many people have the AS characteristics that were not inherited, but learned by

living with their AS parent.

Just food for thought………

Belita

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I am unsure which side it does come from but to be honest the amount of children that I have met with AS who have received this from their dad compared to their mom is somewhat overwhelming. I know that my own son is a direct reflection of his biological father (whom I divorced when DJ was 1) and also his brother has the same the (I still talk to his mom). It does seem odd and I am not saying that males are the reason at all.. who knows what it is really. My husband hasnt been diagnosed with anything but could be diagnosed with something I am sure! As for kids who are AS having kids... my own son is hesitant and says he will probably not have children because he doesnt want them to go through what he has had to go through.. he says there are plenty of children who need good homes out there so he will adopt if it comes down to it.

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I just wanted to comment how many people have noted that “dad’s side” of the family had the AS traits, but I also want to mention that I discussed inheritance of this disorder with a research psychologist on Friday since I was unable to find anything on the Internet.

My concern was for my other “non ASD” older son who is hesitant about fathering another ASPIE. He saw that it can be transmitted through a non-ASD person; his aunt whose 10 yr old has AS.

I was told by the researcher that there still hasn’t been any conclusive evidence of inheritance for any of the ASD diagnoses. I would truly appreciate a link to the information regarding the “male dominant trait/sex link”.

I also met some people in a support group who had daughters with AS, but inherited from dad.

In addition, I have a therapist who treats many people who are children of AS parents. She has seen many people have the AS characteristics that were not inherited, but learned by living with their AS parent.

Just food for thought………

Belita

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