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I rarely, if ever *boil* vegetables. My first guess would be that you're

overcooking them.

Many vegetables (such as broccoli and carrots) will get a little more vibranty

hued when

steamed - and then quickly lose that color and go mushy when they're overcooked.

Steamed veggies should have just a *little* bit of firmness and crunch left to

them when

they're done, but be tender enough to poke a fork into without TOO much effort.

SulaBlue

> I'm asking for suggestions here. When I boil vegetables or steam them

> they have little or not flavor. I've tried putting ms. dash for

> vegetables on them but that doesn't seem to help much. Does anyone

> having any suggestions.

>

> I have been off caffiene and fast food now for 2 days. My head is

> killing me. But without fast food I'm kind of at a lost as to what to

> have. But my main question is the vegetables.

>

> I think I am going to purchase the food mover. I've tried to buy one

> on ebay but was out bid.

>

> Lynn

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I'm talking boil for 3 minutes like the directions say. Is steming them with a pan underneath with water and then the vegetables above in another pan? If so, I can do that. If not, I have no idea what steaming is. I only buy frozen veggies because I'm the only one here that would even think about eating veggies unless they are "fattened up".

What about casseroles. does that add too much fat and calories - if you just have a portion size? I'm so desperate and I feel so lost.

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I rarely, if ever *boil* vegetables. SulaBlue> I'm asking for suggestions here. When I boil vegetables or steam them > they have little or not flavor. I've tried putting ms. dash for > vegetables on them but that doesn't seem to help much. Does anyone > having any suggestions.>> > Lynn100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

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>When I boil vegetables or steam them

> they have little or not flavor.

I agress with Sula that veggies should never be boiled, no matter what

package directions say.

Steaming is fine, but after probably decades of eating veggies coated with

butter or creamy sauces, they *will* taste very bland until your tastebuds

get used to it, if you want to eat them plain. But you don't *have* to! Use

fat-free salad dressings, hot pepper sauce, ketchup, lower-fat spreads, like

Earth Balance (dairy free and lower fat), experiment with *other* seasonings

other than Mrs. Dash - the grocery store's spice sections is full of

different ones. Just watch the salt content - some have more salt in a

teaspoon than most people should have in one day.

Check out the list's Files/Recipes section. You'll find loads of vegetarian

recipes and vegetable side dishes. Look around the internet at places like

http://www.fatfreevegan.com and http://www.fatfree.com for other vegetable

ideas, or do a Google search for vegetable recipes and you'll find thousands

more.

> I have been off caffiene and fast food now for 2 days.

Another reason *all* food will taste totally bland to you now. The caffeine

headache will last about a week, sometimes 2 if you were a heavy coffee

and/or soda drinker. As far as dropping fast food, well, those foods are so

heavily salted and fatty that even a raw jalepeno papper is going to taste

bland for about 3 months! It takes anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months to

retrain your tastebuds. Just give it time.

> I think I am going to purchase the food mover.

Go over to my Foodmover web site:

http://members.tripod.com/sue_in_nj/fm.htm

and find the calorie card that you should be using and click on the

thumbnail to get the larger graphic. Save this to your computer. Now you can

either print out multiple copies of it and just cross off each food portion

as you eat it, or print it out once on a piece of cardstock, if you have it,

cover it with some sort of lamination plastic (even clear shelf paper will

do) and use a dry erase marker, grease pencil, or crayon to check it off,

and the next morning just wipe it clean and start over.

Switching to a new way of eating is hard, retraining your tastebuds is even

harder. Give it time and don't be afraid to experiment.

Sue in NJ

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,

Have you tried baking your vegetables. When I had a stove, I would take cut the vegetables up, drizzle some olive oil on them and then bake them until they were done. The olive oil and baking seems to add a nutty flavor to the vegetables.

Just a suggestion, keep eating your vegetables though. Most of my diet are high fiber vegetables, legumes and meats. I've lost three pounds so far eating this way and its only been a week.

Blessings,

Lynn Whitton <angelalynnwhitton@...> wrote:

I'm asking for suggestions here. When I boil vegetables or steam them they have little or not flavor. I've tried putting ms. dash for vegetables on them but that doesn't seem to help much. Does anyone having any suggestions.I have been off caffiene and fast food now for 2 days. My head is killing me. But without fast food I'm kind of at a lost as to what to have. But my main question is the vegetables.I think I am going to purchase the food mover. I've tried to buy one on ebay but was out bid. Lynn100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

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Elyse wrote:

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> Hello,

> I used to eat a fair amount of vegetables and enjoyed them, loved

> salads. Now, I don't have nearly as much as I used to, but what's

> interesting is I don't even want any. Bee, I know you mentioned

> that you tried having no vegetables for a period of time, but I

don't know if having very little is ok for me right now. Mostly all

I want to have is the raw egg drink. Besides that I'll have meat and

fats, but once I have meat I don't want any vegetables, I have to

make myself have some. I can't eat nearly the volume I used to

either for which I'm glad becasue it'll be easier on my system

overall. Is it ok of I don't have many veggies at this point, I'm

just on diet and supp's, no antifungals.

==>Yes, it is okay not to eat veggies & just stay on the diet with no

supplements. Eating only meats and fats was proven to be healthy by

Stefansson - see the 3 part report on his experiments eating only

meats and fats under doctor's care

at:http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm (he ate 20% meat and 80%

fat, which is very important; meat alone will cause sickness).

Bee

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> I'm not finding information on how many vegetables (low carb or less)

> it is recommended to have per day on this food plan. I see the

> fat/protein ratios but is there one to show how many veggies in ratio

> to fats and carbs? Thanks, Anita

==>Carbs are any foods not classified as protein or fat, so there are

only 3 food groups.

==>According to my article you eat ratios of proteins to fats to carbs

calculated according to your height - see that section of my article or

refer to the Candida Diet Folder which contains a spreadsheet on which

you can calculate them and it also has a worksheet with calculations of

some Typical Foods to show you how it works. Also refer to the

instructions in the Fitday.com file.

Bee

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> Hi again Bee. For some reason I was surprised to see tomato on the

> list of vegetables. Can the small amount of sugar they contain be

> problematic for some?

+++Hi . I doubt that tomatoes will cause problems. I think it

may be because they acidic. During a period time on my candida program

I was only able to eat 9 foods in the whole world - I had no choice

because everything else came back up; my stomach was my worst problem.

But tomatoes were okay, however the only other vegetables I could eat

were greens, which are extremely low in carbs. And interesting enough

my supplements all stayed down.

>

> If I eat lettuce should it be eaten raw or cooked?

+++All vegetables should be cooked. Lettuce is extremely high on

cellulose, which is indigestable, so cooking it enough breaks down

cellulose in them so the nutrients are available.

>

> Bee, another question. When I have die off I notice that my face gets

> puffy. Is this normal?

+++Have you ever had a puffy face in the past? If so, your body is

now " retracing " those previous symptoms. If not, see Water Rentention:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php

> Thanks Bee. What would I do without you?

> lots of hugs

+++You are very welcome indeed! I'm glad you found me my dear. You

deserve to have a very long happy healthy life!

Lots of hugs, Bee

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> Hi Bee. Do you think that it is wise of me to take vegetables out of

> my diet. I am having digestive issues with them feeling very heavy,

> bloated, uncomfortable throughout the day. I do have beef broth that

> is made with vegetables cooked for a very long time til they liquify.

> I buy it from us wellness meats they follow Sally Fallon's beef broth

> recipe. I started eating vegetables because I was a bit constipated,

> but I think that it was due to the iodine that I WAS taking. It was

> killing the good bacteria that I had.

+++Hi . You can try my all Meat & Fat Diet, along with some other

members who are experimenting with it. I'll email you the instructions

offlist.

+++I don't recommend taking iodine, so I'm glad you stopped it. I

don't think iodine would kill good bacteria however.

+++Remember that IF you've ever been constipated in the past, before

this program, your body will " retrace " each and every episode during

naturall healing - look up Hering's Law of Cure on my website for more

information.

> Thanks alot Bee- I have been reading your files and it is truely

priceless information.

+++You are so welcome for the wealth of information1

Bee

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> Hi Bee

> I have a few vegetable questions please Bee. You say vegetables are difficult

to digest raw but wouldn't they be easier to digest than meat?

+++Hi Nicky. All meats, eggs and good fats are very easy to digest compared to

any carbs (all foods not classified as protein or fat). Carbs require so many

more resources, digestive enzymes and energy to digest, including insulin to

regulate proper blood sugar levels. Carbs start being digested by enzymes in

the mouth, but they stop when the stomach acid level gets high enough. They

continue being digested in the small intestines.

+++Also in order for your pancreas to do its job there must be enough stomach

acid and fluids in the contents dumping out of the stomach into the small

intestines, which are triggers for the pancreas. First the pancreas pours on

lots of baking soda in order to neutralize stomach acid, since proper digestion

only occurs when they are alkaline. Next the pancreas produces many digestive

enzymes.

+++Whereas most of the fats I recommend don't require any stomach acid, nor any

digestive enzymes, and not even bile like other fats do, in order for them to be

absorbed and utilized. They go through a different route in the body too, which

is from the small intestines through the lymphatic system and directly into the

bloodstream.

+++Meats and eggs require enough stomach acid in order to be digested but like I

wrote above, carbs can't be digested in the small intestine unless there is

enough stomach acid too.

> If my carb ratio is only 25-30 most days can I have a higher carb food such as

a carrot as part of my ratio allowance?

+++No, because each kind of food you eat must be low in carbs/sugars, and then

overall you must be consuming low-carbs according to your ratios.

> Even when you are healthy do you maintain the same fat, protein and carb

ratios?

+++I do, because I know how healthy it is!

> With my electrolyte drink sometimes I vitamise a handful of greens eg

dandelion or silver beet. Do you think our bodies needs bitter green like this

to stimulate our livers and digestion?

+++No, your body doesn't need any kind of greens to help your liver or

digestion. That's why the Eskimos Dr. Weston Price and others have studied were

perfectly healthy on an all meat and fat diet (their ratios are 80% good fat to

20% meat).

+++In fact greens, tea, etc. are diuretic, which means they make your body get

rid of water and minerals along with it.

+++Your liver is healthiest getting enough good fats, along with other fat

soluble nutrients like omega 3, vitamins A, D and E, etc. - of course all

nutrients work together with protein, vitamins, minerals, etc. - and by

eliminating toxins and damaging foods.

All the best, Bee

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How about fermented vegetables? My son won't eat sauerkraut but he loves fermented veggies- chunks of carrot, cauliflower and broccoli. Then it's always ready and it the refrigerator.

I think if you prepared your vegetables in water and kept them in the refrigerator until ready to steam it would be fine.

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I have started preparing and baking in the mornings to get it out the way for the day. Wondering should I be preparing vegetables in the morning and putting them in water till I am ready to steam them later for evening meal. Would this help take starch out or would it actually make them more starchy. ON gaps diet so do not want starch build up.

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Hi ,Do you mind telling me your recipe for the fermented veggies... especially the broccoli, or do you do them all together in one jar?I've only made sauerkraut before, so I'm not too experienced.Thanks,On Mar 18, 2010, at 3:45 PM, deniseajacobus@... wrote: My son won't eat sauerkraut but he loves fermented veggies- chunks of carrot, cauliflower and broccoli.

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I'm only just beginning to ferment myself, but yes, all in one jar and I use a starter culture that is purchased (but you could use liquid from your sauerkraut).

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Hi ,

Do you mind telling me your recipe for the fermented veggies... especially the broccoli, or do you do them all together in one jar?

I've only made sauerkraut before, so I'm not too experienced.

Thanks,

On Mar 18, 2010, at 3:45 PM, deniseajacobusaim wrote:

My son won't eat sauerkraut but he loves fermented veggies- chunks of carrot, cauliflower and broccoli.

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I am interested in making a fermented vegetable medley too. I make sauerkraut in

a Picklemeister jar with just cabbage, salt & water.

Can I do the same with the vegetable medley or do I have to have a starter

culture?

>

>

> My son won't eat sauerkraut but he loves fermented veggies- chunks of carrot,

cauliflower and broccoli.

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