Re: good 504 planning meeting

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that is not true, the part about that he can not have an iep because he is in the GATE program. My son has been in GATE since 4th grade and always has an iep. there are alot more issues than just being brilliant that our kids have an iep for. insist upon one and make sure the primary designation is autism. you tend to get more services. my son was required to be there too, but i told them no, it wasnt going to happen. the last time i took him to an iep the principal threatened him. so that is not true either. these are just rules they want to try and enforce, but in reality, you are in the drivers seat, not them. keep pushing. Sycamore Art StudiosSycamore Art SchoolDeborah GustlinGraphic & Web DesignArt classes for K-12www.sycamoreartstudios.comwww.sycamoreartschool.comHome: 408-710-0892 Business: 408-710-6070From: Jerri Crandall <jerricrandall@...> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 7:20:45 AMSubject: ( ) good 504 planning meeting

Hey- I am mostly a reader. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have already introduced myself but my 13 year old was diagnosed in Nov with borderline aspies, ADHD, anxiety and mood disorder. I contacted the school gave them the paperwork. We had the first meeting and I was amazed. I was scared what was going to happen after reading some of your stories you all have had to go through. We planned what we want to try for my son- and all teachers were informed what they need to do for the month. I have even had one teacher print out his missing assignments and ask if he had any of them done to turn it- so they ARE doing what they said. We

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back in next month- after spring break and discussed what worked and any other ideas and put the plan into effect. He goes to high school next year and I have been afraid he is going to be lost. They did say he can not have a IEP because he in in the GATE program because of his high IQ. The only thing I am not fond of is here in Idaho once the child is 14 they have to be involved in the 504 meeting- at least signing of it. So they want him there this year- so we are going to have to tell him what his diagnoses is.Some days feel so hopeless that I wanted to share this

good. Days like this are good. Since we started working with the teachers my sons grades have all gone up- he only has one F right now instead of 3 (including a 16% and 18%) and he is finishing those assignments this week.Jerri

[Guest guest]

In terms of having him sit in on the 504, I like for my son to join (he's 14). He knows he has Aspergers, though. He gets anxious when he's there so I'm rubbing his hands and the back of his neck quite a bit to help him calm down, but I want him to hear what's going on, what's expected of him, what I expect from the teachers, Special Ed department, etc... I see this as an opportunity to show him how to advocate for himself so hopefully he can use these skills when he gets older. I know a 504 doesn't fall under Special Education, but that doesn't change my stance. The people involved are generally amicable, especially the last 3 years. 6th grade? Not so much. This year we are extra blessed because his folder teacer/SCORES (autism spectrum program at our school

district) teacher is AMAZING. I want Dylan to join so we can all talk about what's working, what's not, where he needs more help, etc... From: Jerri Crandall <jerricrandall@...> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:20:45 AMSubject: ( ) good 504 planning meeting

Hey- I am mostly a reader. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have already introduced myself but my 13 year old was diagnosed in Nov with borderline aspies, ADHD, anxiety and mood disorder. I contacted the school gave them the paperwork. We had the first meeting and I was amazed. I was scared what was going to happen after reading some of your stories you all have had to go through. We planned what we want to try for my son- and all teachers were informed what they need to do for the month. I have even had one teacher print out his missing assignments and ask if he had any of them done to turn it- so they ARE doing what they said. We

go

back in next month- after spring break and discussed what worked and any other ideas and put the plan into effect. He goes to high school next year and I have been afraid he is going to be lost. They did say he can not have a IEP because he in in the GATE program because of his high IQ. The only thing I am not fond of is here in Idaho once the child is 14 they have to be involved in the 504 meeting- at least signing of it. So they want him there this year- so we are going to have to tell him what his diagnoses is.Some days feel so hopeless that I wanted to share this

good. Days like this are good. Since we started working with the teachers my sons grades have all gone up- he only has one F right now instead of 3 (including a 16% and 18%) and he is finishing those assignments this week.Jerri

[Guest guest]

Hi, glad you had such a good meeting! It's not true about no iep if in

gifted/GATE. My son did well with a 504, but if there had been any spec ed

services I felt he needed, we'd have gotten the IEP. He was considered gifted

too.

Found this for Idaho, in their manual for the Gifted 2E (twice exceptional)

students :

Identification of twice-exceptional students requires comprehensive assessment

in both the areas of giftedness and disability as one does not preclude the

other. Educational services must address both their high achievement potential

as well as their deficits. Twice-Exceptional students require differentiated

instruction, accommodations and/or modifications, direct services, specialized

instruction, acceleration options, and opportunities for talent

development. Twice-Exceptional students require an individual education plan

(IEP) or a 504 accommodation plan with goals and strategies that enable them to

achieve growth at a level commensurate with their abilities, develop their gifts

and talents, and learn compensation skills and strategies to address their

disabilities. A comprehensive education plan will include talent development

goals. (Printed with Permission, Dr. Baum, 2010)

http://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/gifted_talented/twice-exceptional/docs/2E%20Manual\

..pdf

Found above on this page:

http://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/gifted_talented/resources_manuals.htm

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> Hey- I am mostly a reader. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have

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> introduced myself but my 13 year old was diagnosed in Nov with borderline

> aspies, ADHD, anxiety and mood disorder. I contacted the school gave them the

> paperwork. We had the first meeting and I was amazed. I was scared what was

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[Guest guest]

That is great to hear!!! Its really refreshing to hear about someone having a

good experience with the school. Unfortunately that is not the norm. But that's

wonderful for you and your son. Hope it continues! Good luck!

ne

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Jerri Crandall <jerricrandall@...> wrote:

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>Hey- I am mostly a reader. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have

already

>introduced myself but my 13 year old was diagnosed in Nov with borderline

>aspies, ADHD, anxiety and mood disorder. I contacted the school gave them the

>paperwork. We had the first meeting and I was amazed. I was scared what was

>going to happen after reading some of your stories you all have had to go

>through. We planned what we want to try for my son- and all teachers were

>informed what they need to do for the month. I have even had one teacher print

>out his missing assignments and ask if he had any of them done to turn it- so

>they ARE doing what they said.

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>We go back in next month- after spring break and discussed what worked and any

>other ideas and put the plan into effect. He goes to high school next year and

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>have been afraid he is going to be lost. They did say he can not have a IEP

>because he in in the GATE program because of his high IQ.

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>The only thing I am not fond of is here in Idaho once the child is 14 they have

>to be involved in the 504 meeting- at least signing of it. So they want him

>there this year- so we are going to have to tell him what his diagnoses is.

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>Some days feel so hopeless that I wanted to share this good. Days like this

are

>good. Since we started working with the teachers my sons grades have all gone

>up- he only has one F right now instead of 3 (including a 16% and 18%) and he

is

>finishing those assignments this week.

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>Jerri

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[Guest guest]

He absolutely can be in a gifted program and have an IEP. To not provide services to people with disabilities in a gifted program is discriminatory. Please do let them know if he requires an IEP and that is whether he is in gifted classes or not. Ask to see their policy in writing, specifically that particular "rule."

As for the meeting, you should tell him what is going on, what his dx is, etc. But also, you can have him attend part of the meeting, then leave. My oldest ds would never go to a meeting. He would just refuse! So I didn't have to worry about it. I would have worried too because they were often saying negative things about him and his abilities. It would have never been good for him to listen to that and a lot of it was just ignorance on their part. So it would have made things even worse for him to listen to it.

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) good 504 planning meeting

Hey- I am mostly a reader. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have already introduced myself but my 13 year old was diagnosed in Nov with borderline aspies, ADHD, anxiety and mood disorder. I contacted the school gave them the paperwork. We had the first meeting and I was amazed. I was scared what was going to happen after reading some of your stories you all have had to go through. We planned what we want to try for my son- and all teachers were informed what they need to do for the month. I have even had one teacher print out his missing assignments and ask if he had any of them done to turn it- so they ARE doing what they said.

We go

back in next month- after spring break and discussed what worked and any other ideas and put the plan into effect. He goes to high school next year and I have been afraid he is going to be lost. They did say he can not have a IEP because he in in the GATE program because of his high IQ.

The only thing I am not fond of is here in Idaho once the child is 14 they have to be involved in the 504 meeting- at least signing of it. So they want him there this year- so we are going to have to tell him what his diagnoses is.

Some days feel so hopeless that I wanted to share this

good. Days like this are good. Since we started working with the teachers my sons grades have all gone up- he only has one F right now instead of 3 (including a 16% and 18%) and he is finishing those assignments this week.

Jerri