Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. in SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 If it's in his IEP that he should ask to leave the room and the teacher is required to allow it then I would certainly follow up on that!!! Was there perhaps another adult in the room and a child that you know and can ask about it? I'd be ticked off too!! You aren't the only one have IEP issues with school. Some of these teachers just seem to think they know better then the specialists who help come up with recommendations for the education plan. We're heading in for IEP review # 2 since August and if they go off this time I plan to seek legal counsel. The IEP is in place for a reason and the school needs to follow it... PERIOD!Hang in there! GabiFrom: <moien@...> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:54:02 PMSubject: ( ) A rough week... On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. in SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Keep good records of everything that is going on at school, regarding your son's behavior and the school's response to it. If he already has an IEP and they are not enforcing it, you can call for an emergency IEP to address that. Certainly the recent suspensions warrant an emergency meeting.You would do best if you have an advocate attend the meeting with you. Also, you can get information from your state's Protection and Advocacy Agency on what to do. Basically, the school has an obligation to educate your son, and if his "behaviors" are interfering with that, then they need to come up with a plan to address it. A plan that does not include you picking him up from school and taking him home, since 1) you cannot control his behavior while he is at school, and 2) leaving the school removes him from the opportunity to receive his education.If it continues, you can tell them that they need to figure out what to do in these circumstances, and that you will no longer be coming to the school during the school day to pick up your son. Put the ball back in their court.Sarawww.aspergersupport.com>> On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 You could ask the school for a BA in writing, they are mandated by Federal Law to comply and carry this out. It could be the first step in getting her needs documented and accomodations put in IEP that her teacher MUST follow. From: <moien@...>Subject: ( ) A rough week... Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:54 PM On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. in SD------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 yes, he's had a BA, that's why he has a behavior plan in his iep > > > From: <moien@...> > Subject: ( ) A rough week... > > Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:54 PM > > > On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 , I'm so sorry for all you're going through! Gosh, You're in a pickle. Do you think the Principal isn't getting the whole story from the Teacher, or do you feel the Principal is making excuses for the Teacher? If the Teacher is not being honest with the Principal about the course of events in the room, then the Principal won't be vigilant to insist that he upholds the contractual arrangements of the IEP - he will support the teachers claim and assume he is following it. But in either case, I would take issue with their use of suspending him for any of the behavior you described. Makes me wonder what the Behavior Support Plan says as far as preventative, support and reactive strategies. They should try less restrictive measures for non dangerous behaviors like those ie: Princip. referral, ISS, Time-outs. Positive interventions would be best, as they are more efficient in reducing problem behaviors for ALL students. But you've got to get that in his IEP, otherwise they will follow existing school policies and continue to suspend him for such minor infractions. The goal should be to hold your child accountable for the behavior but NOT to subject him to discrimination due to his disability. Be sure that any disability related behaviors are spelled out in his IEP. Also, suspending him will not help him learn how to improve that behavior; behaviors which are dependent upon and result from the events in the environment. When dealing with children who have disabilities, the consequences for those behaviors need to be LESS restrictive because they are a result of the disability ~ and that needs to be in the IEP. Any changes in consequences for specific behaviors must be written in his IEP. Use his dx you got on Monday, to help them understand his needs. You can ask for another IEP meeting at any time to make necessary changes to his IEP, and they can not deny you. From: <moien@...>Subject: Re: ( ) A rough week... Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 8:26 PM yes, he's had a BA, that's why he has a behavior plan in his iep> > > From: <moien@...>> Subject: ( ) A rough week...> > Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:54 PM> > > On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 What are you doing at home to deal with the fine motor delays? Does he see an OT or do you have exercises you come up with on your own? Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Re: A rough week... How do we do it? I homeschool! I gave up on the school district in preschool. I started homeschooling and there is no way I will ever put him back in public school. He does so much better at home. He was getting in trouble all the time for stupid things like licking his hands. He actually missed library time for licking his hands. I know it is gross but how is that a big deal. He had stimming behaviors that included licking. I was just glad he wasn't licking other kids. lol. They forced him into the bathroom which was one of his phobias even though they were informed that they were not to force him under any circumstances. When he had Christmas break and it was time to go back to school he had such a huge meltdown that I couldn't bear to send him back. We started homeschooling and he has done so great. He loves being able to work at his own pace and choose some of his own activities. Granted he is only 6 so we will see how things go, but I have no inte ntions of putting him back in. Right now he is so ahead in math and reading but has a fine motor delay that severely effects his writing, so I think it would be hard for the schools to provide an environment where he was not bored. I am certain if he was in public school he would be causing trouble out of boredom and frustration as well. > > On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Also, the plan of the parent picking up the child when he/she has misbehaved at school can often set up a positive behavior plan without realizing it. In other words, the child wants to go home, so he/she misbehaves on purpose, knowing they will call the parent to come pick him up. Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Re: A rough week... Keep good records of everything that is going on at school, regarding your son's behavior and the school's response to it. If he already has an IEP and they are not enforcing it, you can call for an emergency IEP to address that. Certainly the recent suspensions warrant an emergency meeting. You would do best if you have an advocate attend the meeting with you. Also, you can get information from your state's Protection and Advocacy Agency on what to do. Basically, the school has an obligation to educate your son, and if his "behaviors" are interfering with that, then they need to come up with a plan to address it. A plan that does not include you picking him up from school and taking him home, since 1) you cannot control his behavior while he is at school, and 2) leaving the school removes him from the opportunity to receive his education. If it continues, you can tell them that they need to figure out what to do in these circumstances, and that you will no longer be coming to the school during the school day to pick up your son. Put the ball back in their court. Sara www.aspergersupport.com > > On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. th e teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Request a meeting with the team and go over what went wrong in the process, if he does have a BP. A BP isn't the end of the process. If it doesn't work or isn't being followed, then you have to meet and figure that out. Also, get a copy of the school's bullying policy in writing since that is what started everything. I would ask for him to have a 1-1 aide, which they won't want to do. But if they don't start providing supports when and where he needs them, that is the next step. So it might encourage them to try harder. We had a situation once where my ds was suspended for fighting. Another kid jumped him during indoor recess. By the time we were done, they had stopped the suspension and were trying not to have to give us a 1-1 aide. They had a lot of "eye witness reports" but when I asked to see them or speak to the people who were there, suddenly those were gone and nobody was in the room besides other kids. And then I reasoned that he needed the 1-1 aide to either protect him from the bullies when there are no adults around or to protect the other students because my kid was unpredictable and might snap at any moment. lol. It's funny to look back on it now. But he got the 1-1 aide because ultimately, someone was at risk - either the other students (if my kid was so terrible and lashed out for no reason) or my kid (because the other kids picked on him and no adults were every around.) I let them decide who was at risk on their own. Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) A rough week... > > Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:54 PM > > > On tuesday I got a call to pick hunter up at school (6th grade, 11 years old). Kids at lunch were calling him gay, so he turned around and called one boy a dickhead. Suspended for a day and a half. He got to go back today. I just got home from picking him up again, 3 days suspension. Why? His side of the story is: he wanted to leave the classroom (frustrated) the teacher said no, and pulled him in the hall and talked to him. THey returned to classroom. Again he got frustrated, asked to leave, teacher said no, took him out to the hall and Hunter told him to get away. the teacher then told him to go to the office. Principal's story is that Hunter ran out of the room and told him to screw off. Nothing leading up to it. > That is bologna. Hunter would not unprovoked do something like that. It is in his IEP that he has to ask to leave the room, the teacher WILL give him permission. > I am angry, there are so many things going through my mind right now. I have asked for an aide, and been denied. > So due to the school being idiots, I have now lost my job. How do you all do it? By the way, Hunter's aspergers evaluation is monday. > in SD > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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