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I can't say for China, but I switched to organic milk because the

kefir grains wouldn't grow in non-organic. I guess the amount

of antibiotic left over was enough to keep them down.

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On 7/9/07, <truepatriot@...> wrote:

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> Speaking of yogurt, last night I was watching CNN and

> they aired a story on dangerous food products in China.

> They claimed much of the milk there cannot be used to

> make yogurt due to the extreme quantities of antibiotics

> used on the cows! Wow, can that be true?!

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> http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog/vegan-done-light.html

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IMO, China has gone a long way to clean up their act.

Yesterday they executed the head of their FDA.

Now, that's a statement!

The American FDA still will not allow testing of American cattle for Mad Cow

Disease. This remains a concern for vegetarians. There is vegetable

gelatin, however most gelatin is made from cattle parts and widely used in

food products.

Peace

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

www.HappyHerbalist.com

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Re: Yogurt

Posted by: " " truepatriot@... cronzen

Mon Jul 9, 2007 9:43 am (PST)

Speaking of yogurt, last night I was watching CNN and

they aired a story on dangerous food products in China.

They claimed much of the milk there cannot be used to

make yogurt due to the extreme quantities of antibiotics

used on the cows! Wow, can that be true?!

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Hey Ed,

That's very interesting and scary! Did they really execute the head of

their FDA? If so I hope they don't feed him to their cattle!

Does anyone know if they test for Mad Cow Disease in China? I've just

ordered 2 kg of gelatin from a winemaking shop (to help with arthritis) and

I'm betting it's made from Chinese cattle parts....... Dare I take it?

> IMO, China has gone a long way to clean up their act.

> Yesterday they executed the head of their FDA.

> Now, that's a statement!

>

> The American FDA still will not allow testing of American cattle for Mad

> Cow

> Disease. This remains a concern for vegetarians. There is vegetable

> gelatin, however most gelatin is made from cattle parts and widely used in

> food products.

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> I am confused now because I was eating unsweetened yogurt and in

one of the folders in states all yogurt and kefir is a No NO and then

is

another folder " lactofermented foods " it states it is good for you.

==>Generall lacto-fermented foods are good for you, but candida

sufferers cannot tolerate dairy products other than butter. Here's

the information from " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " :

" Yogurt & Kefir would ordinarily be a good sources of probiotics,

however many candida sufferers cannot tolerant them, for a number of

reasons. It has been found that candida sufferers are also

intolerant of homemade yogurt and kefir, where most of the lactose

(sugar) content is removed by longer fermentation times. Please note

that the higher the butterfat content in dairy the lower the lactose

content (butter contains the least amount of lactose).

The problem for candida sufferers is caused by more than just lactose

content. It is because candida sufferers have inadequate digestion,

making it is difficult for them to break down nutrients in all foods,

but dairy products, other than butter, are particularly difficult to

digest. This is mainly caused by pasteurization and homogenization

which damages dairy products. It is more evident in dairy products,

other than butter, even in homemade kefir and yogurt.

Pasteurization destroys all valuable enzymes, including lactase for

the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of

galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium. Literally

dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization

process. Without them, dairy is very difficult to digest, which puts

undue stress on the human pancreas. However the pancreas is not

always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can

lead to diabetes and other diseases, in addition to interfering with

the digestion of other foods. Sally Fallon of the Weston A. Price

Foundation states that: " Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes

vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamin

B12 and vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, and promotes

pathogens. "

Milk proteins like casein also make dairy very difficult to digest.

While most candida sufferers can have butter without any problems,

others can only tolerate ghee (clarified butter) which does not

contain these proteins. For more information on butter see the

Section on Fats and Oils above.

Commercially made yogurt and kefir is high in lactose content because

they are made from low fat milk products, in addition to being made

from pasteurized and/or homogenized milk. Even though some of the

problems associated with processed dairy may be eliminated by using

raw dairy it still doesn't seem to help candida sufferers. Even when

yogurt and kefir are homemade from raw dairy and fermented long

enough to lower the lactose, it still causes problems for candida

because lactose is changed into another sugar called galactose during

the fermentation process, and it also contains casein.

It has been found that candida sufferers who hang on to their dairy

products, other than butter, continue to have problems until they

entirely eliminate them. Later on some candida sufferers may be able

to tolerate small amounts of homemade yogurt and kefir, but they

should still proceed with caution until they have cured their

candida. "

Bee

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I was also getting lots of yeast infections.

Thank G-d I'm better now, though I do still get them.

The more vegetables she eats the better. Try to signifcantly cut down on sugar

and carbohydrates. Yogurt is good, but preferably not the kind with added sugar

(or if she must have it, cut the sugar by adding plain yogurt to fruity yogurt

in a one to one ratio), a probiotic, multivitamin, drinking lots of water,

getting lots of sleep, and trying to reduce stress. Lubrication at the yeast

infection site. Olive oil is very good, and applying plain yogurt directly to

the yeast infection is also helpful.

Just some thoughts,

candidiasis@...: charliesmom3863@...: Thu, 8 Nov

2007 06:32:43 -0800Subject: Yogurt

I'm new to this group on behalf of my daughter. She has been having recurring

yeast infections since the first one was discovered in June. She seems to have

one about every month. Without getting into a real technical and specific diet,

are there some helpful hints you can give to me to pass along? Thanks so

much.__________________________________________________

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suzy, try boric acid suppositories by vitannica. i think u can buy it on-line.

it worked wonders for me.

Yogurt

I'm new to this group on behalf of my daughter. She has been having recurring

yeast infections since the first one was discovered in June. She seems to have

one about every month. Without getting into a real technical and specific diet,

are there some helpful hints you can give to me to pass along? Thanks so much.

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Thanks for your help. I will tell her.

kathryn lao <kathrynrlao@...> wrote: suzy, try boric acid suppositories

by vitannica. i think u can buy it on-line. it worked wonders for me.

Yogurt

I'm new to this group on behalf of my daughter. She has been having recurring

yeast infections since the first one was discovered in June. She seems to have

one about every month. Without getting into a real technical and specific diet,

are there some helpful hints you can give to me to pass along? Thanks so much.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

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Thanks for your advice and response. I will tell her.

Yaffee <mmyaffee@...> wrote:

I was also getting lots of yeast infections.

Thank G-d I'm better now, though I do still get them.

The more vegetables she eats the better. Try to signifcantly cut down on sugar

and carbohydrates. Yogurt is good, but preferably not the kind with added sugar

(or if she must have it, cut the sugar by adding plain yogurt to fruity yogurt

in a one to one ratio), a probiotic, multivitamin, drinking lots of water,

getting lots of sleep, and trying to reduce stress. Lubrication at the yeast

infection site. Olive oil is very good, and applying plain yogurt directly to

the yeast infection is also helpful.

Just some thoughts,

candidiasis@...: charliesmom3863@...: Thu, 8 Nov

2007 06:32:43 -0800Subject: Yogurt

I'm new to this group on behalf of my daughter. She has been having recurring

yeast infections since the first one was discovered in June. She seems to have

one about every month. Without getting into a real technical and specific diet,

are there some helpful hints you can give to me to pass along? Thanks so

much.__________________________________________________

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Sorry, no, yogurt is not part of this program. The only dairy allowed is butter

or ghee.

Jackie

(group moderator)

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> Can I have a plain organic yogurt? It has 17g sugar per serving. It doesn't

look like anything was added to it.

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You might consider these "colds" as a a good thing...the body detoxing itself. It is normal to get this and as a health practitioner I know if someone doesn't get the normal colds and flu - it might be because the immune system cannot muster up the forces to fight the bug....

IMO - the yogurt fed his immune system and it started working.

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> there is a brand of yogurt that assures it's 100% lactose free. it's full fat

also. is this acceptable to use? it is organic and grass-fed. i would

absolutely love to add this to our diet if it's alright.

>

+++Hi ,

When lactose is removed it changes into another sugar called galatose, which is

explained in my candida article.

Bee

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