newbie questions

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katiekind@... wrote:

, is this thing always progressive? Do I have to kind

of prepare myself for this to get worse and worse or could it level off?

Second questionthe pain and

stiffness.

Right now I'm doing ok on Aleve.

I'm thinking about going out of town to see a rheumatologist

it, I should do it before the new insurance year starts our deductibles over.

Kathy,

I've had PA for five years. It has gotten progressively worse. But there appears

to me at times that it doesn't hurt in as many joints. I'll get a little break,

but then it all starts again. I can't speak for everybody.

As for finding a rheumy...that is a judgement call. If you are satisfied with

your family doc...fine. But for me, I needed to find someone who was a little

more up on what's happening in the PA field.If you decide to do it, then by all

means do it before the new ins. year. Around here you have to be referred by

another doctor and it's still 2-4 month wait if you are a new patient. Or for

even a check up. You have to be in an emergency state for them to see you

quickly. Mine will at least call me to see what is going on if he can't get to

me right away. He then will say, come in or call me in a new med. I am only on

Naproxen twice a day plus Evening Primrose Oil. It seems to be working ok for

now.

Donna In Michigan

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Kathy - Just to answer one of the items you listed - about progression - my

" rheumy " told me that some people with PA will spontaneous remit for a long

time, maybe always and be just peachy, others will go in and out of

remissions but not really get any worse, and some will continue to degenerate

- I guess it's all the luck of the draw. I'm choosing option 1 (a lifelong

remission); however, my knees refuse to cooperate . The doc. didn't give

me any specifics such as 1/3 remit, 1/3 go in and out, and 1/3 degenerate -

but I'm willing to bet that the majority go in and out of remissions -

Best of luck to you,

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Sylvia

Please, can you give me more details how you

do mercury removal and what is Targis replacement.

Thanks

newbie questions

> Dear Noelle,

> I have been on Hulda's program since June 2000.

> My order of doing things was:

>

> 1st zapping plus herbal cleanse medicine for my

> husband who got colon cancer.

>

> then I started on me with full dose of extract and

> zapping, now 1 full hour, with the build up of the

> herbs over 14 days or so as instructed in her book.

> I lost the intestinal flukes first, then it helped

> with the candida because I quit drinking milk that

> wasn't boiled first. My face lost all kinds of worms,

> yes they were in my skin.

>

> HISTORY:My problem was rashed for ten years,

> perscribed steroids and connective tissue disorder and

> antinuclear antibodies so i could hardly walk and

> chronic fatigue symptoms. Ten years before finding

> hulda i started herbal training but couldn't find many

> teachers.

>

repl> I just started the mercury removal last month and have

> 9 to go out of 12. I used Targis acement.

>

> I was doing the kidney cleanse during the mercury

> removal and them the liver cleanse.

>

> I really don't know how to detox the metals. Just

> winging it on my own with not much help just things

> i've read and heard. I am using vitamin c three a day,

> flax oil tablets 9 a day and thioctic acid 3 a day and

> chlorella 6 a day for removing gold first. I use the

> HCI drops in my cooking and drinks which helps in

> digestion.

>

> I do not know what you SWELLIN is about? It may have

> more to do with the other medications but you need to

> have plenty of rest and flush your system with water

> and lemonade or fuit juices cause I can bet you will

> be needing to get rid of a lot of parasites. It will

> tire you out but having them inside is killing you. Is

> there anyway you can go to one of her CLinics. that is

> what I would have done if I had cancer. I had LOTS of

> junk errupt in my face for months and still do because

> I had a red flushed face for years of steroids and the

> mercury too but it was stuff that needed to come out.

> I drink a lot of fruit juice and eat mostly tuna and

> lemonade.

>

> I am curious about the metal cleansing you are using.

> Please share.

> Best of luck,

> Sylvia

>

>

> --- nmiller465@... wrote:

> > Hi, all -

> >

> > I'm new to this list and new to actually acting on

> > Dr. 's

> > protocols, although I've heard about her for years.

> > I just got my

> > zapper and had my first session tonight (!) and have

> > lots of

> > beginner's questions. I've got the " ...Diseases "

> > book and if the

> > answers are there I haven't found them yet, so I

> > hope you'll bear

> > with what may be stupid questions.

> >

> > First a little background: I'm 53, female, and have

> > been in really

> > poor health ever since I blew myself out with

> > longterm overwork over

> > a decade ago. I was a careless vegetarian and came

> > close to dying

> > from protein starvation (I've turned that around);

> > have hypothyroid,

> > asthma, allergies, CFS, MCS and Leaky Gut. I also

> > had mercury

> > poisoning in a big way, and the detox after having

> > my amalgams

> > changed last Spring has really been a nightmare (it

> > seemed that more

> > stored mercury was dumped into my system every few

> > days). I've mostly

> > used Reiki, acupuncture and herbs but have used some

> > Westrn medicine

> > when I couldn't find other ways - baseline inhalers

> > for the asthma,

> > very occasional abx for chronic bronchitis and sinus

> > problems etc.

> > About 2 months ago I began making and drinking CS

> > daily and Vitamin O

> > as well, but my health has dramatically crashed

> > recently in the

> > aftermath of a severe car crash - no reserves I

> > guess. It's enough

> > already!

> >

> > So about the zapping: I do " get " the basic protocol

> > and feel

> > confident and excited about it. I ordered the herbal

> > parasite cleanse

> > too and I think my biggest question is whether to

> > take the herbal

> > combination during this first week of zapping or

> > whether to do it

> > later.

> >

> > I'm a little concerned about what my body can stand

> > (particularly

> > after the mercury detox), as after the 2nd 7 minutes

> > my tongue

> > swelled up and it's staying that way (it's now over

> > an hour later).

> > I'm drinking a lot of water, and the swelling hasn't

> > gotten any

> > worse, but I recognize it as a danger signal.

> >

> > So.. do I take the herbs now or wait until I've

> > zapped for a week or

> > more? And when do I do the kidney cleanse? It's the

> > timing of these

> > elements that's got me confused.

> >

> > I have other questions but this letter is already

> > awfully long. I'm

> > very excited to be starting down this road. I want

> > my health and my

> > life back!

> >

> > Thanks for advising me,

> >

> > Noelle

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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,

You have to find a dentist that blocks the back of

your throat so the dust doesn't get into you. They

should be wearing gas masks and using a special vacumn

to suck it all up and cover your eyes with goggles or

shades.

You must ask the dentist if he does amalgam removal

if he flinches RUN. Don't pay to have any x-rays so he

can see more until you know he knows what he is doing.

I wasted a lot of money...letting them see...that

pisses the insurance off and they won't pay for the

removal.

They have to put it down as filing replacement and

will pay only if it is cracked etc. otherwise they

want the tooth pulled. Watch out , find a dentist that

knows, only a few in my area even would admit mercury

is dangerous.

The Targis can be a crown called an onlay or a filling

called an inlay. It is the safest but hard to use. it

is baked then glued in. you cant eat taffy but you

wont have mercury, or gold which settles in your

genitals and causes cancer or the radioactive stuff in

porcelin.

Good luck

Sylvia

--- Kushnir <akushnir@...> wrote:

> Sylvia

> Please, can you give me more details how you

> do mercury removal and what is Targis replacement.

> Thanks

>

>

>

> newbie questions

>

>

> > Dear Noelle,

> > I have been on Hulda's program since June 2000.

> > My order of doing things was:

> >

> > 1st zapping plus herbal cleanse medicine for my

> > husband who got colon cancer.

> >

> > then I started on me with full dose of extract and

> > zapping, now 1 full hour, with the build up of the

> > herbs over 14 days or so as instructed in her

> book.

> > I lost the intestinal flukes first, then it helped

> > with the candida because I quit drinking milk that

> > wasn't boiled first. My face lost all kinds of

> worms,

> > yes they were in my skin.

> >

> > HISTORY:My problem was rashed for ten years,

> > perscribed steroids and connective tissue disorder

> and

> > antinuclear antibodies so i could hardly walk and

> > chronic fatigue symptoms. Ten years before finding

> > hulda i started herbal training but couldn't find

> many

> > teachers.

> >

> repl> I just started the mercury removal last month

> and have

> > 9 to go out of 12. I used Targis acement.

> >

> > I was doing the kidney cleanse during the mercury

> > removal and them the liver cleanse.

> >

> > I really don't know how to detox the metals. Just

> > winging it on my own with not much help just

> things

> > i've read and heard. I am using vitamin c three a

> day,

> > flax oil tablets 9 a day and thioctic acid 3 a day

> and

> > chlorella 6 a day for removing gold first. I use

> the

> > HCI drops in my cooking and drinks which helps in

> > digestion.

> >

> > I do not know what you SWELLIN is about? It may

> have

> > more to do with the other medications but you need

> to

> > have plenty of rest and flush your system with

> water

> > and lemonade or fuit juices cause I can bet you

> will

> > be needing to get rid of a lot of parasites. It

> will

> > tire you out but having them inside is killing

> you. Is

> > there anyway you can go to one of her CLinics.

> that is

> > what I would have done if I had cancer. I had LOTS

> of

> > junk errupt in my face for months and still do

> because

> > I had a red flushed face for years of steroids and

> the

> > mercury too but it was stuff that needed to come

> out.

> > I drink a lot of fruit juice and eat mostly tuna

> and

> > lemonade.

> >

> > I am curious about the metal cleansing you are

> using.

> > Please share.

> > Best of luck,

> > Sylvia

> >

> >

> > --- nmiller465@... wrote:

> > > Hi, all -

> > >

> > > I'm new to this list and new to actually acting

> on

> > > Dr. 's

> > > protocols, although I've heard about her for

> years.

> > > I just got my

> > > zapper and had my first session tonight (!) and

> have

> > > lots of

> > > beginner's questions. I've got the " ...Diseases "

> > > book and if the

> > > answers are there I haven't found them yet, so I

> > > hope you'll bear

> > > with what may be stupid questions.

> > >

> > > First a little background: I'm 53, female, and

> have

> > > been in really

> > > poor health ever since I blew myself out with

> > > longterm overwork over

> > > a decade ago. I was a careless vegetarian and

> came

> > > close to dying

> > > from protein starvation (I've turned that

> around);

> > > have hypothyroid,

> > > asthma, allergies, CFS, MCS and Leaky Gut. I

> also

> > > had mercury

> > > poisoning in a big way, and the detox after

> having

> > > my amalgams

> > > changed last Spring has really been a nightmare

> (it

> > > seemed that more

> > > stored mercury was dumped into my system every

> few

> > > days). I've mostly

> > > used Reiki, acupuncture and herbs but have used

> some

> > > Westrn medicine

> > > when I couldn't find other ways - baseline

> inhalers

> > > for the asthma,

> > > very occasional abx for chronic bronchitis and

> sinus

> > > problems etc.

> > > About 2 months ago I began making and drinking

> CS

> > > daily and Vitamin O

> > > as well, but my health has dramatically crashed

> > > recently in the

> > > aftermath of a severe car crash - no reserves I

> > > guess. It's enough

> > > already!

> > >

> > > So about the zapping: I do " get " the basic

> protocol

> > > and feel

> > > confident and excited about it. I ordered the

> herbal

> > > parasite cleanse

> > > too and I think my biggest question is whether

> to

> > > take the herbal

> > > combination during this first week of zapping or

> > > whether to do it

> > > later.

> > >

> > > I'm a little concerned about what my body can

> stand

> > > (particularly

> > > after the mercury detox), as after the 2nd 7

> minutes

> > > my tongue

> > > swelled up and it's staying that way (it's now

> over

> > > an hour later).

> > > I'm drinking a lot of water, and the swelling

> hasn't

> > > gotten any

> > > worse, but I recognize it as a danger signal.

> > >

> > > So.. do I take the herbs now or wait until I've

> > > zapped for a week or

> > > more? And when do I do the kidney cleanse? It's

> the

> > > timing of these

> > > elements that's got me confused.

> > >

> > > I have other questions but this letter is

> already

> > > awfully long. I'm

> > > very excited to be starting down this road. I

> want

> > > my health and my

> > > life back!

> > >

> > > Thanks for advising me,

> > >

> > > Noelle

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

My son (3) was on Specific Carbohydrate Diet (with excellent results

until I messed it up) Jan-April. I recently started he and I both on

the dairy-free version as outlined at pecanbread.com He is refusing

veggies and I have been withholding fruits because I believe he has

yeast. However, I realized today that I have to give him some fruits

anyway, so that he can stay upright! We'll deal with any yeast in a

subsequent stage.

I recently received the book 'Gut & Psychology Syndrome' and Bio-Kult.

Questions:

1. I see this list is for those doing GAPS or BED. Are they

essentially the same diet? If not, can someone direct me to a list

that is specific to GAPS? (I feel at risk of being easily confused by

info about two diets on one list.)

2. I read in GAPS about how to intro dairy, and to hold off on certain

foods while diarrhea is active. Other than that, does GAPS propose

going ahead and eating everything on the 'recommended' food list? Or

is the idea to introduce each food slowly, methodically, carefully (as

on pecanbread)? I am just curious as to whether the GAPS author feels

that problems will clear up sooner or later without worrying too much

about what and when.

Thank you!

Baden

[Guest guest]

Dr. Natasha's intro diet is posted in the files section of this

group's site. Its not in her book.

>

> Hello,

>

> My son (3) was on Specific Carbohydrate Diet (with excellent results

> until I messed it up) Jan-April. I recently started he and I both on

> the dairy-free version as outlined at pecanbread.com He is refusing

> veggies and I have been withholding fruits because I believe he has

> yeast. However, I realized today that I have to give him some fruits

> anyway, so that he can stay upright! We'll deal with any yeast in a

> subsequent stage.

>

> I recently received the book 'Gut & Psychology Syndrome' and Bio-

Kult.

>

> Questions:

>

> 1. I see this list is for those doing GAPS or BED. Are they

> essentially the same diet? If not, can someone direct me to a list

> that is specific to GAPS? (I feel at risk of being easily confused

by

> info about two diets on one list.)

>

> 2. I read in GAPS about how to intro dairy, and to hold off on

certain

> foods while diarrhea is active. Other than that, does GAPS propose

> going ahead and eating everything on the 'recommended' food list? Or

> is the idea to introduce each food slowly, methodically, carefully

(as

> on pecanbread)? I am just curious as to whether the GAPS author

feels

> that problems will clear up sooner or later without worrying too

much

> about what and when.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Baden

>

[Guest guest]

even if you do not have thyroid i would go slowly with meication.even people

with ms many times start at 1.5 mg then 3 and then higher if they can.

you might not have to be so strict as your son with the diet but for sure you

have to clean candida and no sugar no gluten no soy and no caseine might improve

your health greatly.

>

> I have MS and my son has Autism so I am on both LDN groups. I have noticed on

the Autism group they stress how important the GF/CF diet is to be strictly

inforced to get the best benefits of LDN. Wouldn't that also hold true for

adults using LDN? Do I need to change my diet before taking the LDN? I also have

Grave's disease which resulted in a total thyroidectomy. Since I no longer have

a thyroid LDN should not effect my Thyroid replacement hormones or would it?

>

> Thanks, Sonya

>