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I received a catalog from a company called Life

Extension Foundation. They sell a product called DMG

by Foodscience (N,N-Dimethylglycine). The description

for the product states " Studies in the former Soviet

Union found that DMG increases oxygenation of tissues,

improving athletic endurance and diminishing muscle

fatigue by inhibiting lactic acid formation. " Has

anyone taken this product or knows anything about it.

I have also seen it at my local health food store.

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I just drank my last to chase the taste of liquid DMAE. Quoting Megabrain Power,

" DMG is a metabolic enhancer... it maximizes the amount of energy produced for

each molecule of oxygen consumed, and stimulates both braches of the immune

system.... " It helps produce energy & stamina.

jim lambert :)

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> From: SanteeNo1@...

>

> Does anyone use DMG and what does it do for you?

>

>

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-Hi! ,

I've been busy at school helping out with both my son that attends

middle school . I read some of the post and I noticed that you wrote

you had a hard time with one of your students you assist with . Well

my son ( 12 , DS/ASD . ),use to have those behaviors in his

Elementary days , not cussing though . This school year has been a

remarkable improvement . Feb . 2001 , is the best year that my son is

a new person . I attended a Medical Conference for Autism in March .

The information I had recieved has helped tremendously . His Ped. doc

and Neuro-doc have been very supportive towards trying out what would

work out for my son . First we concentrated on his sleep pattern , he

is on Trazadone and it has helped out alot . Second decided to try

out a dietary supplement which is almost like the DMG . I read about

this and was willing to try it out . I still wanted to do more

studing on it , though . This is now , within about 1 1/2 months

time . All I'm hearing from everybody is is talking , he was

totally non-verbal . The bus driver and at school were always trying

to get him to say something besides " NO,Go Away ,quiet , & leave me

alone " . Those were his only words . Now they are clear words .

Yesterday he told one of his 1 yr.old cousin , " stay inside , don't

come out " . Whoa ! Now my biggest concern is ,as he is going to

puberty , how am I going to handle it ? The school invited me to join

on their field to Fiesta Texas , Six Flags , here in SA. I did and

boy did I catch him checking out the babes . Yikes ! He was determine

to go after this one girl and got mad at me . I finally distracted

him and had alot of fun . I told his teacher " he needs to learn how

to get toilet-trained before he wants to chase girls " . Back to your

information , everything is worth a trial . I agree its all related

to the immune system and allergies trigger behavior problems as the

brain throws off the nuero-system . Thats my opinion , and this has

worked for my son and I'm just a happy MOM . Take Care . God Bless

You ,as you are always looking for answers to help others .

Irma , 12 , DS/ASD .

-- In @y..., " Lee " <texasbluebonnets@h...> wrote:

> Dimethylglycine (DMG), a nontoxic metabolite, and autism

> http://www.autism.org/dmg.html

>

> Bernard Rimland,

Ph.D.

> Autism Research

Institute

> 4182 Avenue

> San Diego, CA 92116

>

> DMG is a rather sweet-tasting substance that was described in a

recent

> article in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine (1990,

> 481-86) as a " natural, simple compound with no known undesirable

side

> effects. " The article did not pertain to the use of DMG in

> autism, but instead described an experiment in which DMG was used

to try

> to enhance the function of the immune system of

> laboratory rabbits. It worked-the immune systems of the animals

given

> DMG showed 300% to 1,000% better response to infection

> than the controls.

>

> DMG is readily available in many health food stores. It is legally

> classified as a food. It does not require a prescription. It is

> manufactured by several companies, and comes in various forms, most

> commonly in tiny foil-wrapped tablets about 1/3 the size of an

> aspirin.

>

> The taste is pleasant and children chew the tablets readily. At

about 25

> cents per tablet, the cost is minimal, since only one to eight

> tablets a day are usually taken (eight for adults).

>

> " So far so good, " you may be saying, " but what does this have to do

with

> autism? "

>

> In 1965, two Russian investigators, M. G. Blumena and T. L.

Belyakova,

> published a report showing considerable improvement in the

> speech of 12 of a group of 15 mentally handicapped children who had

not

> been able to use speech to communicate. The children had

> been treated with a substance variously known as calcium pangamate,

or

> pangamic acid, or " vitamin B15. " In addition to enriched

> vocabulary, the children began to use simple sentences, their

general

> mental state improved, and there was better concentration and

> interest in toys and games. Subsequent research has shown the

essential

> factor in calcium pangamate to be DMG.

>

> Soon afterward psychiatrist Allan Cott visited Moscow and brought

back a

> small supply of pangamic acid, which he tried on a number

> of children in his practice, some of whom were autistic. Many of

Cott's

> patients responded in the same way the Russian children had.

> One mother wrote, " It's the most exciting thing I've ever

experienced.

> He was repeating words and he answers questions now.. "

>

> At about this time pangamic acid, or B15, entered the U.S. market.

Chaos

> ensued. Every manufacturer touted his product as " the

> original Russian formula. " There were at least four different

formulas

> on the market, partly, it is believed, as a result of deliberate

> deception and obfuscation on the part of the Russians. DMG, in small

> amounts, was a component of some of the formulas. The FDA

> stepped in and lengthy legal battles ensued. One outcome is that the

> term B15 was outlawed. (Although DMG resembles the B

> vitamins in many ways-it is found in the same foods, for example-

there

> are no known overt symptoms characteristic of a DMG

> deficiency.)

>

> The significant outcome of the legal battles is that the sale of

DMG is

> now permitted, as long as it is not referred to as a vitamin, and

> as long as it is sold as a food and not a drug.

>

> I have been following the pangamic acid-DMG situation for almost 25

> years. I have mentioned it in some of my lectures, and told

> parents and professionals about it in conversations and

correspondence.

> Always I would ask, " if you try it, please let me know what

> results you see, even if no improvement is found. "

>

> I am now so firmly convinced that DMG is helpful to a substantial

> proportion of autistic children and adults that I have decided

to " go

> public " in the Autism Research Review International -to tell people

> about it freely and openly, so they may try it if they wish.

>

> Some who hear of this boldness may be aghast: " Where are the double

> blind placebo-controlled scientific studies showing it to be

> effective in autism? " they will ask. My reply is simple. " There

aren't

> any, and none are needed. " There are, of course, numerous double

> blind non-autism studies of DMG in the scientific and medical

> literature, using not only humans, but many kinds of laboratory

animals,

>

> often given very large amounts of DMG. As noted earlier, no adverse

side

> effects have been found with even massive intakes of DMG.

> (I say " intakes " rather than " dosages " because " dosage " implies

that DMG

> is a drug, which it is not.)

>

> Since no company has the exclusive right to make DMG, competition

keeps

> the price-and profits-down. Thus there is almost no

> chance that anyone will sponsor a $200,000 double blind study of

DMG on

> autistic children. A parent can buy 30 tablets for about

> $8.00. That is a sufficient supply, even for an adult given five or

more

> tablets a day, to determine, in most cases, if it will be helpful.

If

> it is felt to be helpful, fine. If not, you have wasted $8.00

(except

> for the boost given to the immune system).

>

> To help the parents receive unbiased input, I usually tell them to

> refrain from mentioning to teachers, grandparents and others in the

> child's environment that DMG is being tried. I have numerous

letters in

> my files saying, " ny's speech therapist says he has made

> more progress in the last two weeks than in the last six months. As

you

> suggested, we had told no one at his school that we were

> trying DMG. "

>

> I am 100% in favor of double blind studies on drugs with

considerable

> potential for harm, such as fenfluramine, Haldol, or the like.

> However, it doesn't make sense to insist on such refinements before

> trying a perfectly safe substance such as DMG, apple pie, or

> chicken soup.

>

> If DMG is going to work, its effects will usually be seen within a

week

> or so, though it should be tried for a few weeks or a month

> before giving up. In some cases dramatic results have been seen

within

> 24 hours: A Los Angeles mother was driving on the freeway,

> three-year-old Kathy in the back seat, five-year-old mute autistic

son

> Sammy in the front. DMG had been started the day before. Kathy

> began to cry. Sammy turned and spoke his first words: " Don't cry,

> Kathy. " The mother, stunned, almost crashed the car.

>

> A similar case: A Texas mother secured her six-year-old mute

autistic

> daughter in the front seat, then, before driving off, turned to tell

> her husband, " I'll drop at the babysitter's house first. "

, on

> DMG for two days, startled her parents with her first words: " No!

> No babysitter! "

>

> Although speech is the most notable positive change in those

children

> helped by DMG, behavioral improvement is also often reported.

> One father gave his son one DMG tablet per day without mentioning

it to

> the school. He later requested a copy of the school's detailed

> record of his son's day-by-day behavioral transgressions. The

> correlation between outburst-free days and the use of DMG was

> unmistakable.

>

> An article in the New England Journal of Medicine (October 1982)

> reported that a 22-year-old mentally retarded man who had 16 to 18

> seizures per week on standard anticonvulsants, experienced only

three

> seizures per week while on DMG. Two attempts to remove theDMG

> dramatically increased seizure frequency.

>

> Last year I sent information on DMG to Lee Dae Kun, Director of the

> Pusan (Korea) Research Center on Child Problems. He tried the

> DMG on 39 autistic children, ages three to seven, for three months,

with

> the following (summarized) results:

>

> Benefits seen:

>

> Yes: 31 (80%)

> No: 8 (20%)

> (Improved speech, eating, excretion, willingness, etc.)

> 8 children had difficulty sleeping for weeks 1 and 2.

> 6 children became more active for weeks 1 and 2.

>

> Lee Dae Kun wrote that the parents, usually skeptical, saw the

> improvements clearly. He concluded that DMG is very beneficial for

> children with autism, even if it is not a cure.

>

> Information about the use of DMG with older persons is also

encouraging.

> One mother of a 26-year-old who squeezed things (people,

> TV sets, etc.) very hard when frustrated, tried DMG, quite

skeptically,

> to see if it would stimulate his very sparse speech. It didn't, but

> brought remarkable improvement in his frustration tolerance. " Even

my

> husband, who was even more skeptical than me, now is a

> believer, " she wrote.

>

> DMG certainly doesn't always help, and it certainly is not a cure,

but

> it is certainly worth trying, in my humble opinion.

>

> If you try it, let me hear from you.

>

> --------------

> This article appeared in the Autism Research Review International,

Vol.

> 4 (2), 1990, and updated in 1996. The Autism Research Review

> International is a quarterly newsletter published by the Autism

Research

> Institute (4182 Avenue, San Diego, CA 92116, U.S.A.).

>

> The Autism Research Institute

distributes

> an information packet on vitamins, allergies, and nutritional

treatments

> for autism.

>

>

> --

> Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :

> Lee

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http://www.vital-nutrients.com/behavior_balance-dmg_liquid.htm

I like Behavioral Balance DMG by Vermont Science. I get it from my local

health food store.

Behavior Balance-DMG Liquid

Label Information

Suggested use:

Under 6 years old:

1 teaspoon daily.

6-12 years old:

1 teaspoon, twice daily.

Over 12 years old:

1 teaspoon, 3 to 4 times daily.

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 1 Teaspoon (7 ml)

Servings per Container 50

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amount per Teaspoon

% Daily Value

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Vitamin B6 (Pyrodoxyl-5-Phosphate 50%) 20 mg

Folic Acid 400 mcg

Vitamin B12 (Methylcobalamin) 10 mcg

Magnesium (as Magnesium Citrate/Malate) 30 mg

Zinc (as Zinc Citrate) 1.5 mg

1000%

100%

167%

8%

10%

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dimethylglycine 200mg*

L-Carnosine 125 mg*

Betaine HCL 25 mg*

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Daily Value not established.

Other ingredients: water, xylitol, citric acid, natural cherry flavor

(phenol free), the preservative sodium benzoate, natural color (from red

cabbage extract).

This product is vegetarian and free of corn, egg, gluten, milk, soy,

wheat, yeast, added starches, synthetic dyes, and artificial flavorings.

Lillian

fjennings@...

fldofdrms@...

DMG

> Hi all,

>

> I read that DMG scores high for a boost in speech..

>

> Anyone can share what dose I can start of ?

>

> I am buying DMG liquid from Kirkman. My daughter is 2 years old.

>

> Currently she takes Super Nu Thera + 12.5 mg P5P and cod liver oil

> (Kirkman). Both are given at 1 teaspoon daily.

>

> Any harm to give DMG at the same of those two supplements ?

>

> Any advice is greatly appreciated while queuing on Drs :)

>

> cheers,

> Tetty

>

>

>

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> qualified practitioner.

>

>

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In a message dated 16/01/2006 12:11:26 GMT Standard Time, heradini@... writes:

Currently she takes Super Nu Thera + 12.5 mg P5P and cod liver oil (Kirkman). Both are given at 1 teaspoon daily.Any harm to give DMG at the same of those two supplements ?

>>>No problem as far as I have read. I would use the dosing on Kirkman site but start lower and work up. May need extra Folic/Folininc or magnesium if if makes for hyper

HTH

Mandi in Dorset

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Debbie: Have you personally used the DMG and what results have you

had? Did you find it online? Any additional sites or information would

be great. Thanks, Frann

>

> DMG

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I have used DMG but I dont have cancer that I know of. Any heath food store

has the Now brand for just a little over $7 We have been giving it to my

grandson for autism. He gained weight and started talking within a week and

two. I just found out it does cateracts so I started back on it. I was not

taking enough.

debbie

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Debbie: Have you personally used the DMG and what results have you

had? Did you find it online?

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I wonder if it's something you could see. Isn't helpful with

Methilation, as is Melatonin and Glutathione, etc.

>

> If DMG works for a particular child what exactly are the benefits seen?

>

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> If DMG works for a particular child what exactly are the benefits seen?

I used TMG. It helped my son's language and behaviors, and was one of

the supps required to eliminate his visual stims.

Dana

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Hi

We are using TMG at the moment, but have used DMG before quite a few

years ago. To cut a long story short. My son had speech (from doing

ABA) as was doing quite well. We saw a doc who took him off the DMG and

other supps we were using and changed diet. Things went really down

hill fairly quickly. Whether it was 'die-off' or not I don't know but 2

years worth of ABA went down the drain. I had this kid who could not

function any more and was just so sick and miserable and was losing

speech. After nearly 3 months of persisting, I just put him back on the

supps we had him on. Notably DMG, we gave it to him at lunch time and

his body seemed to 'shake'. It was bizarre. I gave him more at dinner

time at the dose he was on previously. He woke up the next morning,

happy and chatty and his speech was back to his normal. Nor everything

works well for everybody, but it had great benefits for us.

Loretta

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>

> anyone using this with good results?

I use TMG with good results. It requires folic acid and carnitine for

proper absorption, and did tend to increase yeast at first.

Dana

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I've seen several articles about treatments for autism also benefiting

CFS/Fibro, including articles in the mainstream media recently. But I

haven't heard from anyone who has tried this, or found any studies on

it's use specifically for ME/CFS/FMS. I'm also curious to know what the

results have been.

dyno

--- octrosie20 <rosiecox@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

> Just pasting this from the UK What Doctors Don't Tell You website -

> precis of bumpf from the Townsend Newsletter.

> Apologies if this has recently been covered on this group, but just

> wondering if anyone had used this compund alone (as opposed to being

> part of a wider methylation protocol - Yasko/Rich's etc) and had any

> positive response for ME?

> Rosie

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sounds great; the Townsend Newletters are absolutley tops; will post.

>

> Hello all,

> Just pasting this from the UK What Doctors Don't Tell You website -

> precis of bumpf from the Townsend Newsletter.

> Apologies if this has recently been covered on this group, but just

> wondering if anyone had used this compund alone (as opposed to

being

> part of a wider methylation protocol - Yasko/Rich's etc) and had

any

> positive response for ME?

> Rosie

>

> Autism: Amino acid DMG helps in 42 per cent of cases

> 27 March 2008

> Children with autism can be helped by taking the amino acid DMG

> (dimethylglycine), a major new study has confirmed. The benefits of

> the supplement – especially for people with mental problems – have

> been known for years, but the evidence has either been anecdotal or

> the studies have been too small to interest other researchers.

>

> The new study, organised by the Autism Research Institute,

recruited

> 5,367 autistic children – and 42 per cent of them reported major

> improvements in their condition after taking the supplement.

>

> According to teachers and parents, the children who responded

> positively to DMG had improved verbal communication, better social

> interaction, better eye contact, improved affection, a reduction in

> seizures and improved sleep patterns.

>

> One of DMG's long-time advocates, Dr V Kendall, says that it

> helps the neurological system and can also modulate the immune

> system. It acts as a methyl donor, and methylation activates neural

> pathways that affect behaviour.

>

> He recommends one to four 125 mg DMG tablets per day for an

autistic

> child, and it should be taken with 800 micrograms of folic acid.

DMG

> can also be found naturally in liver, and in beans, seeds and

grains.

>

> (Source: Townsend Letter, 2008; 297: 34).

>

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Dyno,

There now have been multiple approaches to CFS, using possible similarities to

aspects of autism.

The first I heard about was at an International CFS Conference in the 90s from

Dr. Goldberg, who found multiple CFS patients with an autistic child. (Maybe his

own family too).He formed a family Org, with protocols used over these years.

You might find a website and I think there is a group. Something like

? NeuroImmune....

A number of people from this list we are on are trying an approach put together

by Amy Yasko, and with work from Rich van K. You can search from hundreds of

posts here, check out AY's website, and a list that was formed for people

interested in the Yasko Protocol.

You could google autism and CFS and might find more, or even autism alone.

I found some interesting daily management tools , from sites by young adult

Autistics themselves, and email exchanges with one person specifically.

Katrina

>

> > Hello all,

> > Just pasting this from the UK What Doctors Don't Tell You website -

> > precis of bumpf from the Townsend Newsletter.

> > Apologies if this has recently been covered on this group, but just

> > wondering if anyone had used this compund alone (as opposed to being

> > part of a wider methylation protocol - Yasko/Rich's etc) and had any

> > positive response for ME?

> > Rosie

>

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Hi Dyno!

Out of curiosity I searched the Yasko forum for DMG references. Here's

a quote from one of the moms on the forum:

" If you have enough b12 on board, and methylation is working, then you

are ready for DMG...the best way to know is by doing what you are

doing...running a MAP [Metabolic Analysis Profile test]...but a " mommy

opinion " here...if you are keeping up on the UEEs [urine Essential

Elements tests]...and cobalt continues to be off the page...then I

would probably try a DMG...keep in mind, getting around the long route

takes some time to work out...so don't expect the addition of DMG to

be this magical cure in a short time. "

There are two ways around the methylation cycle, the long way and the

short way (as explained in Dr Yasko's book " The Puzzle of Autism " ).

The short way is easier to get going, but in the long run you want the

biochemical chain of reactions to go all the way around the longer

path. As I understand it, DMG helps redirect from the short way around

to the longer way around. It looks like Dr Yasko likes to get

methylation started up again before adding in DMG, which is why it

comes later in her protocol, but some of the parents have experimented

with adding it in earlier. Some of them have reported language gains,

similar to what that article mentioned. In the Yasko forums, DMG has

also been mentioned as a detox-provoker (which is good, but needs to

be approached carefully).

The marker for getting enough B12 on board is a rise in cobalt on the

Urine Essential Elements test. I'm still working on that part of it;

it may take anywhere from a couple of months to a couple of years?

Probably depends on how deficient I am and how fast I want to push it.

After my cobalt marker " goes across the page " , then I'll be ready for

the next step, which may include DMG, or not, depending on my various

other test results.

So I guess the answer for DMG is that it has a place in the Yasko

protocol, taking it " early " probably wouldn't hurt anything, but it

would have the most benefit after some of the other pathways were

working again.

*As always, YMMV, work with your own health care provider, take it

slow with the Yasko supplements and listen to your body.*

Marcia on

in Salem, Massachusetts

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Katrina,

Thanks for breaking that down. Most of the articles have not been

specific on the method of treatment in autism-CFS area so I wasn't

aware of the differences of the individual approaches. I reviewed

Yasko's info, but it seems distinct from the DMG treatment (?).

In case it helps anyone else, here's the site Katrina mentioned:

Neuro Immune Dysfunction Syndromes () http://nids.net

dyno

--- kattemayo <kattemayo@...> wrote:

>

> Dyno,

>

> There now have been multiple approaches to CFS, using possible

> similarities to aspects of autism.

>

> The first I heard about was at an International CFS Conference in the

> 90s from Dr. Goldberg, who found multiple CFS patients with an

> autistic child. (Maybe his own family too).He formed a family Org,

> with protocols used over these years. You might find a website and I

> think there is a group. Something like ? NeuroImmune....

>

> A number of people from this list we are on are trying an approach

> put together by Amy Yasko, and with work from Rich van K. You can

> search from hundreds of posts here, check out AY's website, and a

> list that was formed for people interested in the Yasko

> Protocol.

>

> You could google autism and CFS and might find more, or even autism

> alone.

>

> I found some interesting daily management tools , from sites by young

> adult Autistics themselves, and email exchanges with one person

> specifically.

>

> Katrina

>

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Cool! I have to go to his office for my check and the kids annual check. I

will have to pick a ton of stuff up then. UGH! There goes the budget

again.

Steph

DMG

> , DR B has his DMG formual on his online catalog now!!! Just

> ordered some 2 days ago and it is alredy delivered today.

> Janie

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

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what does the DMG do? dimethylglycerine?

Gracia

Cool! I have to go to his office for my check and the kids annual check. I will have to pick a ton of stuff up then. UGH! There goes the budget again.Steph DMG> , DR B has his DMG formual on his online catalog now!!! Just> ordered some 2 days ago and it is alredy delivered today.> Janie>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

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It's one of the key components in the methylation cycle like Folate, B12, etc. This explains what Dimethylclycine (DMG) does in a somewhat easy way to understand http://www.raysahelian.com/dmg.html

Here is some more info http://www.bulkmsm.com/DMG/web12.htm

DMG> , DR B has his DMG formual on his online catalog now!!! Just> ordered some 2 days ago and it is alredy delivered today.> Janie>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

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OK thanks

I am suffering right now b/c I ran out of high B vitamins 2 days ago. I ordered the special folate thing and I take the B2/niacin ATP cofactors--I seem to need everything I can get. :(( I hope the vites from illnessisoptional come on Monday.

Gracia

It's one of the key components in the methylation cycle like Folate, B12, etc. This explains what Dimethylclycine (DMG) does in a somewhat easy way to understand http://www.raysahelian.com/dmg.html

Here is some more info http://www.bulkmsm.com/DMG/web12.htm

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We did. We started with one capsule (I think 125 mg) and moved up to 2.

Ruth

On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Alyssa Davi wrote:

> Has anyone seen a language boost on DMG? And if so, what was the

> dose you used?

>

> Any positive results on TMG?

>

> Alyssa

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My son has been very very fixating on certain topic along with

> > > repetitive speech in the past couple days, driving the whole world

> > > crazy.... Now, any clue what may be the cause, so we can put

> off the

> > > fire or at least get it down???

> > >

> > > For my son, this would have meant viruses, yeast, and/or B12/folic

> > > deficiency. Addressing those issues eliminated this problem.

> > >

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