Re: Re: Can the school keep a rap sheet on my Asperger son. minute by minute?

[Guest guest]

I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.

Are there skills and talents that you have that you could turn

into a home based business? One of my clients became a Virtual Assistant

so she could be at home most of the time. Or changing jobs to where you

can work different hours so you could be there with him most of the time?

Zak had a 504 at school and even though they worked on accommodating

him they still found ways to track every bit of “bad” behavior.

One time they suspended him for a week because someone (not Zak)

had typed “How to Kill Sally” (which turns out to be some kind of

video on you tube). When Zak saw someone had typed that into the internet

he was fascinated with how many hits would come up. Of course the teacher’s

name happened to be Sally and she assumed Zak was looking for ways to kill

her! Zak isn’t violent at all and a peace loving boy. Because

of his fascination with how many hits you get when you type in different things

in the internet he started typing in different teachers names!!! They

were going to call the police except that we had a 504 and they know him, they

suspended him instead.

He was so upset by all of this, that is traumatized him for a

couple of months. This was what made us decide that it was a waste of

time trying to get a system to really work with my child so we took him back

out of school and said never again would we subject him to the torture of

school again.

It took several months for him to not be on edge all the time

and feel like he was dong something wrong by being him.

Just my thoughts.

Namaste

Dawn in Tucson

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is a difference between interest and commitment. When you are interested in

doing something, you do it only when circumstances permit. When you are

committed to something, you accept no excuses, only results. - Unknown

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Subject: ( ) Re: Can the school keep a rap sheet on my

Asperger son. minute by minute?

If they knew the first thing about behavior, they would stop doing this

immediately. They could actually be ENCOURAGING these behaviors by doing this.

Our kids (all kids, really) do best when we note their

POSITIVE behaviors. So, if they want to keep a " rap sheet "

that's what they should be focusing on: all the times he does it RIGHT.

They will not be successful with this current

method, and are most likely making things much, much worse.

If you haven't already, call for an emergency IEP meeting

and request that they have a professional behaviorist come in and observe and

make recommendations.

Sara

Sara Gardner

www.aspergersupport.com

www.behaviortoday.info

http://nototherwisespecified.typepad.com/blog/

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> I am so upset right now. My 11-year-old son had a bad school day (well,

every school day is bad, even though I don't seem to have much problem at home,

unless when I get too upset with his school days and aggravate him). He has

close adult supervision all the time.

>

> Then I found this " rap sheet " in his school bag. I am not sure

if that is meant for me to see. But it really does not matter. The " rap sheet "

keeps records of everything my son did or said that is inappropriate, minute by

minute. It has all the details, with all the bad words, and not so bad words

(10:10, said " shits " 3x; 10:10, screamed out " Hey " ; 10:11,

threw pencil at me).

>

> I made it clear at IEP meeting that I didn't want them to put all these

explicit bad behaviors / words on his daily behavior chart (my son likes

reviewing his own behavior charts on the bus home and often find those explicit

comments funny). So most of the time, the staff have been emailing me the

explicit details of the incidents, and just mark lots of 0's on his behavior

charts. But nothing in the email was as detailed as this, to the minute,

multiple records for the same minute!!!

>

> So the helper's job is to keep record all the behaviors, to the exact

details, by minute? I thought s/he is supposed to prevent behaviors from

happening or to mitigate the problems when they are happening? If he is busy

keeping records, when does he actually work on helping my son? My son also said

that he knew that the helper was keeping records and, quite a few times, he got

in trouble for tearing up the helper's sheets.

>

> What should I do? It really gives me such an ugly feeling that all the

school is doing is to establish evidences how bad my son is. But he is not bad

at home at all! Even his 7-year-old sister is following him around, calling

" big brother, come here, check out this and check out that " .

>

> I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think this sounds like ABA at all. She could only wish they

even knew what that was. lol.

Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Re: Can the school keep a rap sheet on my

Asperger son. minute by minute?

I can't say what there intention is. Is it possible they are

using Applied Behavior Analysis? In this method data

is collected, and interventions are studied for effectiveness?

In a functional behavioral assessment (FBA) ususally

a certified behaviorist is obesrving the child takes data

and then documents it.

If this is not what they are doing ask for a FBA and a behavior

plan to be written by a Certified Behavioral Consultant.

Hopefully you child is classified already.

Pam

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> I am so upset right now. My 11-year-old son had a bad school day

(well, every school day is bad, even though I don't seem to have much

problem at home, unless when I get too upset with his school days and

aggravate him). He has close adult supervision all the time.

>

> Then I found this " rap sheet " in his school bag. I am not sure if

that is meant for me to see. But it really does not matter. The " rap

sheet " keeps records of everything my son did or said that is

inappropriate, minute by minute. It has all the details, with all the

bad words, and not so bad words (10:10, said " shits " 3x; 10:10,

screamed out " Hey " ; 10:11, threw pencil at me).

>

> I made it clear at IEP meeting that I didn't want them to put all

these explicit bad behaviors / words on his daily behavior chart (my

son likes reviewing his own behavior charts on the bus home and often

find those explicit comments funny). So most of the time, the staff

have been emailing me the explicit details of the incidents, and just

mark lots of 0's on his behavior charts. But nothing in the email was

as detailed as this, to the minute, multiple records for the same

minute!!!

>

> So the helper's job is to keep record all the behaviors, to the exact

details, by minute? I thought s/he is supposed to prevent behaviors

from happening or to mitigate the problems when they are happening? If

he is busy keeping records, when does he actually work on helping my

son? My son also said that he knew that the helper was keeping records

and, quite a few times, he got in trouble for tearing up the helper's

sheets.

>

> What should I do? It really gives me such an ugly feeling that all

the school is doing is to establish evidences how bad my son is. But he

is not bad at home at all! Even his 7-year-old sister is following him

around, calling " big brother, come here, check out this and check out

that " .

>

> I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.

>