Re: son snapped and bashed another child

[Guest guest]

Please tell me you're taking copious notes on all the incidents and asking the school for copies of their incident reports. You need documentation. This latest incident should get you a functional behavior assessment if you don't already have one. The school/teachers obviously missed all the triggers before your son snapped and poped someone. It could have even been a result of unresolved issues from days or weeks before if the school is not catching what's happening on a daily basis.

 

Ask for an iep meeting with a behaviorist and tell them you want that meeting tomorrow or Thursday at the latest. Bring in your documentation and ask them how they plan to help your son and keep other children safe. Btw, get a copy of your school's bullying policy and read it. Bring that to the meeting, too. Unless there were witnesses, the school will likely tell you they didn't see the bullying. Be prepared for that. Consider having your son write down on paper or the computer how he's bullied and you bring that to the iep meeting you've asked for due to the latest incident.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:57 AM, miranda.flemming <miranda.flemming@...> wrote:

 

My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay, so went to school.

Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than the sad kind).

Miranda

[Guest guest]

This is a great idea! He should not be suspended or punished.

There should be a behaviorist involved in this.

Usally schools assign an aide at recess and lunch when incidents like this

happen. Your son needs a supportive setting to cope

and stay regulated.

Pam

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> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

> > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > seemed okay, so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > than the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

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> >

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[Guest guest]

maybe it will end the bullying? Taste of their own medicine. We wanted our

boy to stand up for himself - he is sensitive and geeky- he went a bit overboard

though - he definitely won the fight with a kid that always hits other kids. I

can understand how he couldn't take it anymore (and the chemical that triggers

rage was also still in his system for a trial).

Miranda

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> My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched

the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

>

> We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is

on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a

drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get

out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed

okay, so went to school.

>

> Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

>

> I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than

the sad kind).

>

> Miranda

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) son snapped and bashed another child

My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay, so went to school.

Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than the sad kind).

Miranda

[Guest guest]

I've been wondering if depressed because easily provoked to rage (especially

with additives in his system) and a natural chemical that blocks serotonin that

makes me depressed makes him rage. The long-term bullying and lack of friends

makes him sad and angry. 2 key bullies have backed off (1 after I talked to

him) and another steps up to the plate to have a go (but my boy definitely won

that fight - he was really mad and fought back as had a chemical in his system

still)

He is refusing to go to school today - he is fearful of more attack and getting

in trouble. We are telling him that word will get around of what happened and

if they have any brains they will leave him alone.

Miranda

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> I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody

else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

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> Roxanna

> Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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> ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

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> My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched

the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

>

> We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is

on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a

drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get

out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed

okay, so went to school.

>

> Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

>

> I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than

the sad kind).

>

> Miranda

>

[Guest guest]

My son came out of class crying. His teacher came out too looking concerned.

She managed to tell me the boys were fighting in class. Then my son grabbed the

other child but the collar and slugged him 3 or 4 times - hard. After he calmed

down, he said the other boy had pushed him, hit him and called him a crybaby

(because cried - he gets called a crybaby a lot).

I phoned school to see if allowed to come in. they said yes and still

investigating. My child is refusing to go as fearful of further trouble.

Waiting for phone call back from school

Miranda

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> > > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > > before.

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> > > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical

in

> > > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > > seemed okay, so went to school.

> > >

> > > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> > >

> > > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > > than the sad kind).

> > >

> > > Miranda

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[Guest guest]

 Well said!!!

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> wrote:

 

I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a bully.  To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody else has managed to handle.  I'd pop the bully one too.  

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) son snapped and bashed another child

 

My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay, so went to school.

Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than the sad kind).

Miranda

[Guest guest]

the school rang me back. both boys are getting an in school detention which I am

fine with . The other mother was upset her boy got hit, but her boy started it.

Both boys have social communciation issues. I am fine with outcome. Now just

have to try and get my boy to go into school

Miranda

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> > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

> > bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that

> > nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> >

> > Roxanna

> > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*

> >

> >

> > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> >

> >

> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

> > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > seemed okay, so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > than the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Agreed! This has happened with my son on SEVERAL occasions. Before we could get someone to pay attention, he was written off as the BAD kid, and scapegoated anytime something went wrong. Now that he’s in a good school, with people who PAY ATTENTION, when this happens, we ALL know that was pushed to his absolute breaking point. You can’t punish a child for hitting their breaking point. I completely understand the “panic†you must’ve felt in having to weather that news… but know that your boy was doing the only thing he had the capacity TO do at that point. I wouldn’t panic too much. Can you talk to your school about an education session on Asperger’s Syndrome? In ’s school, the “elementary†kids (Grade 4, 5 and 6) do most things together… activities, eat lunch together, etc… so we had it with them. The principal was involved, but I gave a presentation to the kids about Asperger’s, and also purchased a DVD (Coulter Video “Intricate Mindsâ€) to share with the students. It has made a HUGE difference in their understanding and acceptance of . I have been there, done that, SO many times. So talk to me anytime    I think our boys are lucky, believe it or not, because they OUTWARDLY (even if wrongly in our eyes) show us when they can’t cope anymore. I’d rather have them be outward, than turn inward and try to cope without the necessary skills to do so. THAT is when I’d be worried about depression !!! =) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RoxannaSent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too. RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. ( ) son snapped and bashed another child My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay, so went to school.Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than the sad kind).Miranda

[Guest guest]

I actually agree with you both. At least my son gets his anger out of his

system, not bottling it all up like I did (while being a compliant child) and

then suffered from anxiety and depressive disorder.

On positive note,the school acknowledged that both boys lacked social skills and

both did the wrong thing and are getting identical punishments (a school

detention). Other boy's mother was upset her boy got punched, but he started

it. " Fair and square " as my father would say.

Also he seems to have gained new respect. When we finally got to school, a boy

that used to bully him greeted him in friendly manner and patted him on the

shoulder as if to say, " well done "

Miranda

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> Agreed!

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> This has happened with my son on SEVERAL occasions. Before we could get

someone to pay attention, he was written off as the BAD kid, and scapegoated

anytime something went wrong. Now that he’s in a good school, with people who

PAY ATTENTION, when this happens, we ALL know that was pushed to his

absolute breaking point. You can’t punish a child for hitting their breaking

point. I completely understand the “panic†you must’ve felt in having to

weather that news… but know that your boy was doing the only thing he had the

capacity TO do at that point. I wouldn’t panic too much.

>

>

>

> Can you talk to your school about an education session on Asperger’s

Syndrome? In ’s school, the “elementary†kids (Grade 4, 5 and 6) do

most things together… activities, eat lunch together, etc… so we had it with

them. The principal was involved, but I gave a presentation to the kids about

Asperger’s, and also purchased a DVD (Coulter Video “Intricate Mindsâ€) to

share with the students. It has made a HUGE difference in their understanding

and acceptance of .

>

>

>

> I have been there, done that, SO many times. So talk to me anytime I

think our boys are lucky, believe it or not, because they OUTWARDLY (even if

wrongly in our eyes) show us when they can’t cope anymore. I’d rather have

them be outward, than turn inward and try to cope without the necessary skills

to do so. THAT is when I’d be worried about depression !!!

>

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> =)

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> From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna

> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 PM

>

> Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

>

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> I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody

else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

>

>

>

> Roxanna

> Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

>

>

>

>

>

> ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

>

>

>

> My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched

the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

>

> We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is

on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a

drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out

of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay,

so went to school.

>

> Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen.

They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying

to snuff out bullying has been hard.

>

> I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than

the sad kind).

>

> Miranda

>

[Guest guest]

think school is being more reasonable now since diagnosis. Still have to put

his plan into place though. He got detention not suspension this time - even

though he lost control

Miranda

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> >

> >

> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

> > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > seemed okay, so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > than the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

well today more drama. He had a tiff with his 1 friend so hit under slide

because upset. A girl went up to him and said she was going to dob him in so he

hit her. He was like a cornered wild animal and his perception is distorted.

He doesn't have good regulation of emotions. Plus he gets angry when have food

chemicals that make me depressed. That's why I suspect depression (the angry

type rather than sad type)

Miranda

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> >

> >

> > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

> > bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that

> > nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> >

> > Roxanna

> > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*

> >

> >

> > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> >

> >

> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

> > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > seemed okay, so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > than the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanna said:

" I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too. " I wouldn't.  I'm too much a wimp.  But I'd sure be happy if someone did it for me and I'd remember that person fondly for the rest of my life!Can't help but think your son went a long way to correcting the bully's behavior.

-- Dena Page, M.Ed., CBACertified Auditory Integration Therapy (DAA) Practitioner054 812 5973www.listenbetterwithait.comCertified Irlen Screener

Certified Behavior Analyst

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't make him go......but that's just me.

Sounds like he hates school.......even before this?

Good luck.....hugs.

Attack and enjoy every minute of life.

Try everything.....protect everything.

Robin

From: miranda.flemming <miranda.flemming@...>Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 6:31 PM

the school rang me back. both boys are getting an in school detention which I am fine with . The other mother was upset her boy got hit, but her boy started it. Both boys have social communciation issues. I am fine with outcome. Now just have to try and get my boy to go into schoolMiranda> > >> >> > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a> > bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that> > nobody else has managed to handle. I'd

pop the bully one too.> >> > Roxanna> > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*> >> >> > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child> >> >> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and> > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that> > before.> >> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He> > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and

I did a test run of a chemical in> > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to> > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning> > seemed okay, so went to school.> >> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will> > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially> > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.> >> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather> > than the sad kind).> >> > Miranda> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Miranda...

Looks like I posted too soon. he he.

I said that I wouldn't send him..........

Sounds like it will turn out okay!!!! Was he happy with the greeting he got once at school?

Attack and enjoy every minute of life.

Try everything.....protect everything.

Robin

From: miranda.flemming <miranda.flemming@...>Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:09 PM

I actually agree with you both. At least my son gets his anger out of his system, not bottling it all up like I did (while being a compliant child) and then suffered from anxiety and depressive disorder.On positive note,the school acknowledged that both boys lacked social skills and both did the wrong thing and are getting identical punishments (a school detention). Other boy's mother was upset her boy got punched, but he started it. "Fair and square" as my father would say.Also he seems to have gained new respect. When we finally got to school, a boy that used to bully him greeted him in friendly manner and patted him on the shoulder as if to say, "well done"Miranda>> Agreed!> > > > This has happened with my son on SEVERAL occasions. Before we could get someone to pay attention, he was written off as the BAD kid, and scapegoated anytime something went wrong. Now that he’s in a good school, with people who PAY ATTENTION, when this happens, we ALL know that was pushed to his absolute breaking point. You can’t punish a child for hitting their breaking point. I completely understand the “panic†you must’ve felt in having to weather that news… but know that your boy was doing the only thing he had the capacity TO do at that point. I wouldn’t panic too much.> > > > Can you talk to your school about an education session on Asperger’s Syndrome? In ’s school, the “elementary†kids (Grade 4, 5 and 6) do most things together… activities, eat lunch together, etc… so we had it with them. The principal was

involved, but I gave a presentation to the kids about Asperger’s, and also purchased a DVD (Coulter Video “Intricate Mindsâ€) to share with the students. It has made a HUGE difference in their understanding and acceptance of .> > > > I have been there, done that, SO many times. So talk to me anytime I think our boys are lucky, believe it or not, because they OUTWARDLY (even if wrongly in our eyes) show us when they can’t cope anymore. I’d rather have them be outward, than turn inward and try to cope without the necessary skills to do so. THAT is when I’d be worried about depression !!!> > > > =)> > > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 PM> > Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child> > > > > > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too. > > > > Roxanna> Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.> > > > >

> ( ) son snapped and bashed another child> > > > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay, so went to

school.> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than the sad kind).> > Miranda>

[Guest guest]

When someone is very stressed they will rage. In kids depression shows up as

being very irritable. Many AS kids and anxious kids are more the type to avoid

more stimulation when scared or provoked.

Or if they hit is is to push someone away. But some kids have the type of

regulation issues where they don't retreat when overstimulated or anger but they

lash out or argue or break things etc. This kind of behavior is also shared with

kids with ADHD.

Regarding school avoidance. Get him back at least half a day.

IF you can pick him up for recess and lunch do that if you need

to rather than have him stay home. I had to use these strategies to keep my

daughter in school. If he won't go to recess/lunch

don't force him, you can advocate that he has an alternative

setting for both. You may need to get a therapist involved

to help you advocate for this. Schools do not want to

provide extra services if they aren't forced.

Pam

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> > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody

else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> >

> >

> >

> > Roxanna

> > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched

the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a

drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get

out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed

okay, so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than

the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

he does hate school (after months of being bullied). I agree that most of his

rage is because of school. I don't think home schooling would be healthy for

either of us as I have AS too and would feel trapped with him 24/7 and I don't

think I am good role model for gaining social skills. Plus I need to get a job

(currently out of work) - we've been struggling financially because of all my

health issues etc over years (made worse by stress, and having an AS child like

mine that loses the plot regularly is stressful).

Miranda

Miranda

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> > > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

> > > bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that

> > > nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> > >

> > > Roxanna

> > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*

> > >

> > >

> > > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> > >

> > >

> > > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > > before.

> > >

> > > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical

in

> > > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > > seemed okay, so went to school.

> > >

> > > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> > >

> > > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > > than the sad kind).

> > >

> > > Miranda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I posted too soon too, Things got worse - punched a girl went felt cornered

like frightened animal

Miranda

> >

> > Agreed!

> >

> >

> >

> > This has happened with my son on SEVERAL occasions. Before we could get

someone to pay attention, he was written off as the BAD kid, and scapegoated

anytime something went wrong. Now that he’s in a good school, with people who

PAY ATTENTION, when this happens, we ALL know that was pushed to his

absolute breaking point. You can’t punish a child for hitting their breaking

point. I completely understand the “panic†you must’ve felt in having to

weather that news… but know that your boy was doing the only thing he had the

capacity TO do at that point. I wouldn’t panic too much.

> >

> >

> >

> > Can you talk to your school about an education session on Asperger’s

Syndrome? In ’s school, the “elementary†kids (Grade 4, 5 and 6) do

most things together… activities, eat lunch together, etc… so we had it with

them. The principal was involved, but I gave a presentation to the kids about

Asperger’s, and also purchased a DVD (Coulter Video “Intricate Mindsâ€) to

share with the students. It has made a HUGE difference in their understanding

and acceptance of .

> >

> >

> >

> > I have been there, done that, SO many times. So talk to me anytime I

think our boys are lucky, believe it or not, because they OUTWARDLY (even if

wrongly in our eyes) show us when they can’t cope anymore. I’d rather have

them be outward, than turn inward and try to cope without the necessary skills

to do so. THAT is when I’d be worried about depression !!!

> >

> >

> >

> > =)

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Roxanna

> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:38 PM

> >

> > Subject: Re: ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody

else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> >

> >

> >

> > Roxanna

> > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> >

> >

> >

> > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and punched

the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

> >

> > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in a

drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get out

of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed okay,

so went to school.

> >

> > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> >

> > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather than

the sad kind).

> >

> > Miranda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ideally, I would like him to go for half a day. Is that realistic long term?

My son has both anxiety and ADHD features. The medications would have opposite

effects? I know he gets overwhelmed by sensory stimulation plus he is very

rigid thinker - both reasons he gets easily frustrated. Also has auditory

processing disorder and tic disorder

Mirand

> > >

> > > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that nobody

else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Roxanna

> > > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that before.

> > >

> > > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage.

He is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to get

out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning seemed

okay, so went to school.

> > >

> > > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> > >

> > > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

than the sad kind).

> > >

> > > Miranda

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you thought of sending him to a private school? I was at private school one year, and because it was so small I did well.

On 6/16/10 6:55 PM, " miranda.flemming " <miranda.flemming@...> wrote:

he does hate school (after months of being bullied). I agree that most of his rage is because of school. I don't think home schooling would be healthy for either of us as I have AS too and would feel trapped with him 24/7 and I don't think I am good role model for gaining social skills. Plus I need to get a job (currently out of work) - we've been struggling financially because of all my health issues etc over years (made worse by stress, and having an AS child like mine that loses the plot regularly is stressful).

Miranda

Miranda

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm not sure why you would conclude he is depressed because he punched a

> > > bully. To me, that is a natural response after a continued problem that

> > > nobody else has managed to handle. I'd pop the bully one too.

> > >

> > > Roxanna

> > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*

> > >

> > >

> > > ( ) son snapped and bashed another child

> > >

> > >

> > > My 7 year old flew into a rage after getting bullied (yet again) and

> > > punched the other child in the face several times. He's never done that

> > > before.

> > >

> > > We have an EEG coming up and I know certain additives trigger his rage. He

> > > is on strict diet. We had long weekend and I did a test run of a chemical in

> > > a drink (to try and get timeframe right). Unfortunately, it took longer to

> > > get out of his system. He was like a wild cat last night, but this morning

> > > seemed okay, so went to school.

> > >

> > > Haven't spoken to school yet about latest incident. Not sure what will

> > > happen. They have not yet implemented anything since he was officially

> > > diagnosed. Trying to snuff out bullying has been hard.

> > >

> > > I think my son may be suffering from depression (they angry kind rather

> > > than the sad kind).

> > >

> > > Miranda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>