Re: ASD linked to infertility drugs

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Interesting idea. I didn't take infertility drugs at all. I have one with AS and one without. But I would be interested in others' responses as well. On May 20, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> wrote:

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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I took Clomid with my first daughter, she doesn't have AS, the other 5 I didn't take anything, and 2 of them have AS.  In my case, it seemd to have run everyother child, until the last one and she doesn't appear to have it.  Her only problem is, that she is the youngest of 6 and acts like she is the queen.

 

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:51 PM, McAllister <cjrlmc@...> wrote:

Interesting idea. I didn't take infertility drugs at all. I have one with AS and one without. But I would be interested in others' responses as well.  

On May 20, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> wrote:

 

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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Not here.

But I was induced and he ended up needing tongs to get out........?????

Dream as if you'll live forever,

Live as if you'll die today.

Robin

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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I got preggo naturally with both, one child has AS and the other, well we are still on the fence about him he's newly 6 and some AS behaviors are creeping in..... he def has sensory issues and is in OT for em. Who knows. I think there are probably a lot of environmental factors. I stopped asking why, it took up to much emotional energy for me :-D Thanks for posting the article I am interested in reading! On May 20, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suzanne Markwood wrote:

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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I have a cousin with classic autism and his mom didn't take fertility drugs. I have two children, 1 w/ Aspergers, 1 NT, and didn't take fertility drugs with either.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 12:29:14 PMSubject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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I have a child with autism and no fertility drugs for me but my friend took some and her son has speech apraxia and ppd-noscathy

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

my mom had the tongs used on me. I have the scar on my cheek but I do not have autism I do not think the tongs are related.

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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Thank you so much for that reply . I am pregnant with #6 and we

too seem to be every other child. But I wouldn't say any except the 1

year old (so far) are nt. #1 and 3 are the nt for comparison. They

are easy I guess is why and have no probs. However I wouldn't say nt

though b/c they are highly gifted. My " others " or as I put it, the

even #s, are #2 with hfa (and technically still dx adhd, bp, and spd)

and #4 with a very severe articulation delay that I am cautiously

thinking is not bp or autistic but am still fearful is adhd or pdd-nos

as he is showing more signs with age but at least a year later than #2

showed and not as severe so hoping if it is anything it is just adhd

or pdd-nos but praying it is just the effects of being unable to

communicate easily.

Anyway I really don't think I can handle going through it with him too

much less another. I recently noticed the odd/even pattern but was

already expecting and so was fearful of this. 2 and 4 were so passive

in utero kick counts took forever, the others were so active (the more

active the more laid back after birth) in utero I didn't have to do

kick counts. This one is very active so I am convincing myself it is

a laid back kid. I have to convince myself b/c I also fear I created

#2 by worrying too much in pregnancy. The whole time I kept worrying

she would be very high needs b/c I couldn't get so lucky twice in a

row. By lucky I meant with an easy child.

So your post really is so reasssuring that it is a possibility. I can

handle a princess lol. There is a 5 year gap between 2 and 3, so 3

thinks she's a princess, actually she is even named sarah which means

princess.

On 5/20/10, Schatz <takeme2cmickey@...> wrote:

> I took Clomid with my first daughter, she doesn't have AS, the other 5 I

> didn't take anything, and 2 of them have AS. In my case, it seemd to have

> run everyother child, until the last one and she doesn't appear to have it.

> Her only problem is, that she is the youngest of 6 and acts like she is the

> queen.

>

>

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> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:51 PM, McAllister <cjrlmc@...> wrote:

>

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>> Interesting idea. I didn't take infertility drugs at all. I have one with

>> AS and one without. But I would be interested in others' responses as

>> well.

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>> On May 20, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...>

>> wrote:

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>> I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for

>> infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always

>> wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n,

>> who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is

>> NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken

>> Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken

>> infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone

>> else

>> on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to

>> the article:

>> http://www.time

>> .com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

>>

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>> *Suzanne*

>> *suzmarkwood@... <suzmarkwood@...>*

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To answer the question, 5 kids, 1 hfa, 1 possible issues, 3 " nt " . No

fertility drugs with any of them.

Someone also mentioned induction. So I will pipe in on meds in labor.

I have 3 I received pitocin with. 2 of the nt and then the hfa. I

received an epidural with the same 3. I received other pain relievers

with one of the nt but not the hfa. No assistance in delivery. So no

correlation at all

To go furthur though my hfa was the only one I took phenergen with.

Not sure if the phenergen played a role or maybe the dehydration

before the phenergen. I also had a fever late in my 1st trimester

with her which is something that is said to link to neurologic issues

On 5/20/10, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> wrote:

> I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

> this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And

> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know

> it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs

> without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with

> AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Suzanne

> suzmarkwood@...

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, , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does

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2 of my triplets have pdd-nos  & they were conceived thru clomid & injectables for ovulation, one of them was very very active inside me & now too (has sensory issues & very hyper )....interesting !!!

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Durocher <funwith4@...> wrote:

 

To answer the question, 5 kids, 1 hfa, 1 possible issues, 3 " nt " . No

fertility drugs with any of them.

Someone also mentioned induction. So I will pipe in on meds in labor.

I have 3 I received pitocin with. 2 of the nt and then the hfa. I

received an epidural with the same 3. I received other pain relievers

with one of the nt but not the hfa. No assistance in delivery. So no

correlation at all

To go furthur though my hfa was the only one I took phenergen with.

Not sure if the phenergen played a role or maybe the dehydration

before the phenergen. I also had a fever late in my 1st trimester

with her which is something that is said to link to neurologic issues

On 5/20/10, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> wrote:

> I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

> this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And

> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know

> it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs

> without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with

> AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Suzanne

> suzmarkwood@...

>

>

>

>

>

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Sent from my mobile device

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, , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does

ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010

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you think the tongs are related to the aspergers?On May 20, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Christiansen wrote:

my mom had the tongs used on me. I have the scar on my cheek but I do not have autism I do not think the tongs are related.

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

I took clomid and my child has sever OCD and possible AspergersOn May 20, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Durocher wrote:

To answer the question, 5 kids, 1 hfa, 1 possible issues, 3 "nt". No

fertility drugs with any of them.

Someone also mentioned induction. So I will pipe in on meds in labor.

I have 3 I received pitocin with. 2 of the nt and then the hfa. I

received an epidural with the same 3. I received other pain relievers

with one of the nt but not the hfa. No assistance in delivery. So no

correlation at all

To go furthur though my hfa was the only one I took phenergen with.

Not sure if the phenergen played a role or maybe the dehydration

before the phenergen. I also had a fever late in my 1st trimester

with her which is something that is said to link to neurologic issues

On 5/20/10, Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> wrote:

> I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

> this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And

> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know

> it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs

> without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with

> AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Suzanne

> suzmarkwood@...

>

>

>

>

>

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Sent from my mobile device

-mommy to Emma, Becca, ,

, , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does

ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010

[Guest guest]

Where they vaccinated?On May 20, 2010, at 3:05 PM, MacAllister wrote:

I have a cousin with classic autism and his mom didn't take fertility drugs. I have two children, 1 w/ Aspergers, 1 NT, and didn't take fertility drugs with either.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 12:29:14 PMSubject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

Our children were IVF too, plus emergency C-section at 35 weeks and on incubator

for 3 days after birth plus seizure after MMRI vaccine around 2.5 years of age.

Just diagnosed with Aspergers, nov verbal learning disability and developmental

motor. I'd had a theory there was a link as we know another family that did IVF

with a Son with Aspergers. Both of our Sons are in the 99% for verbal, but have

the non verbal issues as well as social communication. Wasn't sure if it was

the shots with IVF and MMRI or hormones. Thanks for the link.

> > > I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for

> > infertility

> > > were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered

> > about

> > > this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

> > > Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT.

> > And

> > > two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I

> > know

> > > it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility

> > drugs

> > > without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list

> > with

> > > AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> > >

> >

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1990567,00.html?xid=rss-top-aol

> > >

> > >

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> > > Suzanne

> > > suzmarkwood@... <suzmarkwood%40>

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> > Sent from my mobile device

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> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,

> > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does

> > ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010

> >

> >

>

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I was also induced, 5 weeks early! My son weighed 4 lbs 4 ozs.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2010, at 8:14 PM, and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote:

Hee hee. Nope.....it's just that I remember a discussion within this group a awhile back about births, etc. I remember a bunch of us talking about being induced or having "not typical" births, so thought I'd add it in.

Sounded kinda odd, didn't it?

Dream as if you'll live forever,

Live as if you'll die today.

Robin

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

Not here either... I was induced and a Vacuum Extractor was used. I do believe this is what caused Maeci's AS. The top of her head had a fluid filled lump for 3 months. Maeci has disgraphia as well. The exact part of the brain that is affected by disgraphia is the exact spot where the vacuum extractor was used. Her neuropsychologist agreed with me that this could be a possibility. I just Thank God for the damage could have been much worse. Thanks for the information good article! Elinor From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:19:29 PMSubject: Re: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

Not here.

But I was induced and he ended up needing tongs to get out........? ????

Dream as if you'll live forever,

Live as if you'll die today.

Robin

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid= rss-top-aol

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

I was going to ask about birth size and about being early. My hfa is

my smallest and earliest in addition to induction and epidural. My

hfa was 7 lbs 5 oz but only 18 " , the same height as my niece who was 4

wks early. 7 lbs 5 oz may not seem small but I was 9 lbs and my

sisters were almost 9 lbs and over 9 lbs. My 1st and 5th were 8 lbs 3

oz, my 4th was 9 lbs 4 oz and my 3rd, the next smallest was my only

other 1 induced early baby was 7 lbs 15 oz. So she was nearly 1-2 lbs

smaller than my uninduced babies.

Also she was induced 4 days early. Again doesn't seem like a lot but

years later I realised that my due date was probably wrong b/c she was

conceived on day 18 not 14 so that adds another 4 days and if due

dates are + or - 2 wks...my 4th and 5th, uninduced were 8 days late

(and my mom delivered kids 2-3+ wks late) and that is based on an

adjusted due date by u/s not by lmp so I think I am not a 40 wk person

so I suspect she is probably equavalant to a good 2 wks early.

The other thing I have wondered about is anestethia? My dd received

anestethia for a cat scan at 18 month. She did not do well with it.

She woke up very quickly so had to receive more. Then she woke up

quickly from that. She woke up violent and after a lot of

inconsolability and violence she fell back asleep and slept for like 6

hrs then woke up disoriented. Coincidentally her issues started

sometime between 1 and 2 so may coincide with that

The only other one of mine to receive iv anestethia is my son. He

received it at 2 and at 3 for ear tubes. He did " ok " the 1st time

compared to his sister but also was unusual, upset upon waking and

never slept even a minute where they expected him to for hrs. Second

time he was more violent and also didn't sleep. He also developed

violent tendencies somewhere in that time. Though he also lost speech

early (currently attributed to the temp hearing lose from fluid before

the tubes) so had signs before the violence. He is 3.5 now and we

worry he has adhd, bp or pdd

On 5/23/10, Elinor Mullin <elliemullin@...> wrote:

> Not here either... I was induced and a Vacuum Extractor was used. I do

> believe this is what caused Maeci's AS.

> The top of her head had a fluid filled lump for 3 months.

> Maeci has disgraphia as well. The exact part of the brain that is affected

> by disgraphia is the exact spot

> where the vacuum extractor was used. Her neuropsychologist agreed with me

> that this

> could be a possibility. I just Thank God for the damage could have been

> much worse.

> Thanks for the information good article!

> Elinor

>

>

>

>

>

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> From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:19:29 PM

> Subject: Re: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>

>

> Not here.

> But I was induced and he ended up needing tongs to get out........? ????

>

>

> Dream as if you'll live forever,

> Live as if you'll die today.

> Robin

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>>From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

>>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>>

>>Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

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>>I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

>> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered

>> about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

>> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And

>> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I

>> know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility

>> drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the

>> list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the

>> article:

>>http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

>> rss-top-aol

>>

>>

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>>Suzanne

>>suzmarkwood

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We did not need fertility drugs but I was also induced and he was very blue with

low apgar scores and they quickly put him on O2 and kept him there for a while

before I was able to hold him.

>

> From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

> Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>

> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

>

>

> I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers.

But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I

know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's

coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without

this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids,

also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

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>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

> Suzanne

> suzmarkwood

>

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I did take fertility drugs,Clomid was the drug. My son was diagnosed with

Aspergers/ADHD one year ago. Interesting article.

> >

> > From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

> > Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

> >

> > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

> >

> >

> > I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers.

But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I

know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's

coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without

this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids,

also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> > http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

rss-top-aol

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

> > Suzanne

> > suzmarkwood

> >

>

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Wow. My birth story for my AS son is the same. No fertility drugs, but I was

induced followed by an emergency C-section. He was in an O2 tent for almost a

day before I could hold him.

I wonder if anyone is studying the incidence of AS/HFA in kids who were induced

or are put on O2 immediately after they are born? It's just interesting to me

that our birth stories are so similar.

> >

> > From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

> > Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

> >

> > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

> >

> >

> > I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered about

this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has Aspergers.

But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And two friends I

know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I know it's

coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility drugs without

this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the list with AS kids,

also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the article:

> > http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

rss-top-aol

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

> > Suzanne

> > suzmarkwood

> >

>

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It does seem like there is an awful lot of us who were induced. It

would be interesting to know at what stage your inductions were and if

you were positive on due date. Mine was a 39 wk 4 day induction and

the due date was off

On 5/25/10, annehundz <annehundz@...> wrote:

> Wow. My birth story for my AS son is the same. No fertility drugs, but I

> was induced followed by an emergency C-section. He was in an O2 tent for

> almost a day before I could hold him.

>

> I wonder if anyone is studying the incidence of AS/HFA in kids who were

> induced or are put on O2 immediately after they are born? It's just

> interesting to me that our birth stories are so similar.

>

>

>

>> >

>> > From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

>> > Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>> >

>> > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

>> >

>> >

>> > I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for

>> > infertility were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always

>> > wondered about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son

>> > n, who has Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second

>> > son, who is NT. And two friends I know who have sons with austism, also

>> > had taken Clomid. I know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people

>> > have taken infertility drugs without this happening. But I was wondering

>> > if anyone else on the list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs?

>> > Here's the link to the article:

>> > http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

>> > rss-top-aol

>> >

>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

>> > Suzanne

>> > suzmarkwood

>> >

>>

>

>

>

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My daughter was 8.7 20inches 39 weeks c-section, breechMy son was 7.3 21 inches 37 weeks VBAC 12 hours of labor My son had anethesia (SP) for an 8 hour surgery and they told us he would wake up very irritable and possibly scream and violent. Its a reaction with kids from it. He did, it wasn't super severe but was bad enough On May 23, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Durocher wrote:

I was going to ask about birth size and about being early. My hfa is

my smallest and earliest in addition to induction and epidural. My

hfa was 7 lbs 5 oz but only 18", the same height as my niece who was 4

wks early. 7 lbs 5 oz may not seem small but I was 9 lbs and my

sisters were almost 9 lbs and over 9 lbs. My 1st and 5th were 8 lbs 3

oz, my 4th was 9 lbs 4 oz and my 3rd, the next smallest was my only

other 1 induced early baby was 7 lbs 15 oz. So she was nearly 1-2 lbs

smaller than my uninduced babies.

Also she was induced 4 days early. Again doesn't seem like a lot but

years later I realised that my due date was probably wrong b/c she was

conceived on day 18 not 14 so that adds another 4 days and if due

dates are + or - 2 wks...my 4th and 5th, uninduced were 8 days late

(and my mom delivered kids 2-3+ wks late) and that is based on an

adjusted due date by u/s not by lmp so I think I am not a 40 wk person

so I suspect she is probably equavalant to a good 2 wks early.

The other thing I have wondered about is anestethia? My dd received

anestethia for a cat scan at 18 month. She did not do well with it.

She woke up very quickly so had to receive more. Then she woke up

quickly from that. She woke up violent and after a lot of

inconsolability and violence she fell back asleep and slept for like 6

hrs then woke up disoriented. Coincidentally her issues started

sometime between 1 and 2 so may coincide with that

The only other one of mine to receive iv anestethia is my son. He

received it at 2 and at 3 for ear tubes. He did "ok" the 1st time

compared to his sister but also was unusual, upset upon waking and

never slept even a minute where they expected him to for hrs. Second

time he was more violent and also didn't sleep. He also developed

violent tendencies somewhere in that time. Though he also lost speech

early (currently attributed to the temp hearing lose from fluid before

the tubes) so had signs before the violence. He is 3.5 now and we

worry he has adhd, bp or pdd

On 5/23/10, Elinor Mullin <elliemullin@...> wrote:

> Not here either... I was induced and a Vacuum Extractor was used. I do

> believe this is what caused Maeci's AS.

> The top of her head had a fluid filled lump for 3 months.

> Maeci has disgraphia as well. The exact part of the brain that is affected

> by disgraphia is the exact spot

> where the vacuum extractor was used. Her neuropsychologist agreed with me

> that this

> could be a possibility. I just Thank God for the damage could have been

> much worse.

> Thanks for the information good article!

> Elinor

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:19:29 PM

> Subject: Re: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>

>

> Not here.

> But I was induced and he ended up needing tongs to get out........? ????

>

>

> Dream as if you'll live forever,

> Live as if you'll die today.

> Robin

>

>

>

>

>

>>From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>

>>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs

>>

>>Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM

>>

>>

>>

>>I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility

>> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered

>> about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has

>> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And

>> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I

>> know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility

>> drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the

>> list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the

>> article:

>>http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=

>> rss-top-aol

>>

>>

>>~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

>>Suzanne

>>suzmarkwood

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Labor with my son was difficult and they had to induce. I never considered that might be related.My son is 14, and has only recently been diagnosed with asbergers. He already had the OCD and ADHD diagnosis. He was abused at a daycare when he was between 2 and 3. We have tended to blame any problems he had on the abuse. Now we are seeing that he would have probably had these problems anyway. He was always different, but I didn't thnk autistic because he talked and he always communicated with us. It has been a relief to my husb and me to finally have some idea of what's going on.Deana in Bham, ALSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Byrne <kabob@...>Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:05:21 -0700< >Subject: Re: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs My daughter was 8.7 20inches 39 weeks c-section, breechMy son was 7.3 21 inches 37 weeks VBAC 12 hours of labor My son had anethesia (SP) for an 8 hour surgery and they told us he would wake up very irritable and possibly scream and violent. Its a reaction with kids from it. He did, it wasn't super severe but was bad enough On May 23, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Durocher wrote: I was going to ask about birth size and about being early. My hfa ismy smallest and earliest in addition to induction and epidural. Myhfa was 7 lbs 5 oz but only 18", the same height as my niece who was 4wks early. 7 lbs 5 oz may not seem small but I was 9 lbs and mysisters were almost 9 lbs and over 9 lbs. My 1st and 5th were 8 lbs 3oz, my 4th was 9 lbs 4 oz and my 3rd, the next smallest was my onlyother 1 induced early baby was 7 lbs 15 oz. So she was nearly 1-2 lbssmaller than my uninduced babies.Also she was induced 4 days early. Again doesn't seem like a lot butyears later I realised that my due date was probably wrong b/c she wasconceived on day 18 not 14 so that adds another 4 days and if duedates are + or - 2 wks...my 4th and 5th, uninduced were 8 days late(and my mom delivered kids 2-3+ wks late) and that is based on anadjusted due date by u/s not by lmp so I think I am not a 40 wk personso I suspect she is probably equavalant to a good 2 wks early.The other thing I have wondered about is anestethia? My dd receivedanestethia for a cat scan at 18 month. She did not do well with it.She woke up very quickly so had to receive more. Then she woke upquickly from that. She woke up violent and after a lot ofinconsolability and violence she fell back asleep and slept for like 6hrs then woke up disoriented. Coincidentally her issues startedsometime between 1 and 2 so may coincide with thatThe only other one of mine to receive iv anestethia is my son. Hereceived it at 2 and at 3 for ear tubes. He did "ok" the 1st timecompared to his sister but also was unusual, upset upon waking andnever slept even a minute where they expected him to for hrs. Secondtime he was more violent and also didn't sleep. He also developedviolent tendencies somewhere in that time. Though he also lost speechearly (currently attributed to the temp hearing lose from fluid beforethe tubes) so had signs before the violence. He is 3.5 now and weworry he has adhd, bp or pddOn 5/23/10, Elinor Mullin <elliemullin > wrote:> Not here either... I was induced and a Vacuum Extractor was used. I do> believe this is what caused Maeci's AS.> The top of her head had a fluid filled lump for 3 months.> Maeci has disgraphia as well. The exact part of the brain that is affected> by disgraphia is the exact spot> where the vacuum extractor was used. Her neuropsychologist agreed with me> that this> could be a possibility. I just Thank God for the damage could have been> much worse.> Thanks for the information good article!> Elinor>>>>>>________________________________> From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs >> > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:19:29 PM> Subject: Re: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs>>> Not here.> But I was induced and he ended up needing tongs to get out........? ????>>> Dream as if you'll live forever,> Live as if you'll die today.> Robin>>> >>>>From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood>>>Subject: ( ) ASD linked to infertility drugs>> >>Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 12:29 PM>>>>>>>>I saw this article today, saying that women who took drugs for infertility>> were twice as likely to have a child with ASD. I have always wondered>> about this, as I took Clomid to get pregnant with my son n, who has>> Aspergers. But I got pregnant naturally with my second son, who is NT. And>> two friends I know who have sons with austism, also had taken Clomid. I>> know it's coincidental, I'm sure many other people have taken infertility>> drugs without this happening. But I was wondering if anyone else on the>> list with AS kids, also took Clomid-type drugs? Here's the link to the>> article:>>http://www.time. com/time/ health/article/ 0,8599,1990567, 00.html?xid=>> rss-top-aol>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~>>Suzanne>>suzmarkwood>>>>>>>>>>>-- Sent from my mobile device-mommy to Emma, Becca, ,, , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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Hi ya.

No fertility drugs. Aspie son born 7.3. 2 weeks over. Induced because 40 hour

labour.

He did however have a cyst on the brain in utero. This drained but caused him to

have ACC, Agenisis Corpus Collosum. This means the fibres that connect the two

sides of the brain were not formed.

Is someone recording all of these birth stories? Be interesting to see a common

link.

Kel

I will keep climbing the mountain.

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I did not use infertility drugs, but delivered by c section

because first child was c section. Her father and paternal grandmother and

several cousins on that side of the family are on the spectrum. So I believe

in our case, it was genetic and not related to delivery. However, my first

child is neurotypical.

Regards, melody