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Hi e

504s aren't necessarily better than IEP's, but they are easier to obtain. However, all the accomodations that your child would get in a 504 can be written into an IEP.

According to the brochure I have from the Arthritis Foundation: "An IEP must by law be developed for every child who is eligible for special education services. In order to obtain an IEP for a child with arthritis or related rheumatic disease the child is classified as chronically ill or other health impaired." Services may include school health services, OT, PT or adaptive learning experiences. Accomodations can include use of a tape recorder, computer or typewriter and door to door transportation. Classrooms located close together and two sets of boks might also be included. Transition services must be included in the annual IEP for every student age 16 and older.

A 504 Plan: "These civil rights laws protect students' rights in school." Section 504 forbids discrimination against health impaired students with regard to access. It does not require the student to be enrollled in special education to receive related services. Accomodations such as those listed above can be written into the 504.

My daughter, age 10, has a 504 Plan. In it we have such things as self limiting in PE, untimed tests, special seating (She is to be seated where she can get up and move when needed. Fortunately, all her teachers thus far have let her get up no matter where she sits.), second set of books at home, shortened writing assignments or extra time to complete them. It's early and the plan is upstairs (and the rest of the family is sleeping) in a file, but there's more, all along the same lines. We keep a "worst case" plan in place to make sure that is covered at all times, but only use what is needed at any given time. Fortunately we've not had to use some of these things the last couple of years.

Start with your daughter's counselor to get the ball rolling. You'll need a letter from the physician if there's not one already on file, as "Joe" first has to be classified as a person with a disability and therefore entitled to a 504 or an IEP. You and the counselor, along with Joe's teachers and a school administrator should work together on the plan.

Good luck as the school year begins!

Liz

504 plans

Hello,

I tried to research the archives but I didn't come up with anything. Not sure if I did it right or not. Anyways, I want to know about 504 plans. From what I understand it is similar to an IEP which I have dealt with for 3 years with my now 5 yr old. What is the 504 and why is it better? I was told to get one so my daughter can have a set of books at home and at school; to make sure she isn't penalized for not taking PE since she is a sophomore this year and to cover her abscences. Since my son deals with one teacher I know how to get the IEP but who do I start with for the 504? Principal, counselor? Or who???

School starts Wednesday for her, but sign ups are Tuesday. I would love any help you can give.

e, mom to Joe, 15 yo, poly

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Hi e,

It is to my understanding that the differance between IDEA and 504 is that

you have to qualify for special ed in two ares to recieve IDEA yet 504 you do

not.A heavy child who needs a bigger desk can get 504.There is more money

under IDEA for PT/OT it would probably depend on your school system though.My

son is under IDEA for health impairment,speech impairment,which he will

lose in Dec.so they added special ed consult so he wont have to go to 504 and

lose the therapy.In our school system IDEA is better than 504.They have a

list of modifications uncluding extra set of books,they even have to provide

you with a lap top if you cant write well.In our school you go to the

assistant principal to set up the meating,then at the IEP you discuss

problems your child might have and they can help you get the best plan for

your child.Good luck,those big meetings can be very intimidating.Our last one

had 7 people besides myself.

Hugs

Becki and 4systemic

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Hi, I am not real familiar with either plan, so far our daughter has been

accommodated by our school system very well. She has an extra set of books,

gets some of her notes for class in the form of copies from her teachers and

as far as PE last year (she was a freshman) they allowed her limited

participation at her own pace. As far as abscences....that has been alittle

trickier although we let her teachers know up front that these will happen.

Last year in a flare she missed over a week of school,we needed dr notes, she

made up the work & stayed after school. I have always tried to talk to each

teacher as well as guidance at the beginning of the year & so far it has

worked well for us. I am not sure what we at this point are missing without a

plan? Maybe we will need one eventually but I've found our school system to

be very helpful. Kris Ashton Poly JRA(15)

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ok i think this is late but maybe it will help

go to the counselor or the office and ask to speak with the SST support team at least thats the route i took since is in High School also call the special services office at the main place the board of education for the county they also have someone to guide you

is 10th grade this year

Robbin

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Robbin,

Thanks. I need to make an appt next week. I am afraid not to. My baby starts kindergarten tomorrow so I have to get through that first. I worry about them giving her a hard time if she has to miss school due to illness, dr appts etc If you miss 5 days you are subjected to discipline. Yikes! Between drs, joint injections etc she was gone over 5 days last year. I do my best to make the appts for after school but you know that isn't always possible, plus when you have to go in cause of a flare etc. She won't stay home no matter how much she hurts etc but I want to make sure she is covered. She has worked too hard to get where she is.

Thanks for the help.

e

Robbin40@... wrote:

e ok i think this is late but maybe it will help go to the counselor or the office and ask to speak with the SST support team at least thats the route i took since is in High School also call the special services office at the main place the board of education for the county they also have someone to guide you is 10th grade this year Robbin

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Does anyone have a child with a 504 and receives OT or speech/language services

thru the school/district? I am trying to figure out what to do if my son is

determined not to qualify for an IEP because of academic performance. Thanks in

advance!

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If they receive OT or ST, they would have an IEP as those are special ed

services, would automatically get an IEP. Academic performance wouldn't matter

for an IEP or a 504 if there are other needs/supports. And if your child needs

OT and/or ST, he'll get an IEP.

Hope that wasn't confusing!

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> Does anyone have a child with a 504 and receives OT or speech/language

services thru the school/district? I am trying to figure out what to do if my

son is determined not to qualify for an IEP because of academic performance.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi, Ruthie -

My daughter also needed to have " accommodations " specified in a 504 plan after

she had surgery for scoliosis in 5th grade. Having a 504 meeting and a 504

plan enabled her to get the accommodations she needed, and which the surgeon

specified, in order to recover from surgery and then to attend school again.

First, she needed to be absent from school for a 4-5 weeks following surgery,

and to receive home tutoring during that time. The surgeon also specified half

a day of school for the first two weeks of her return. When at school again,

she needed special transportation to school -- a small bus was needed, and not a

minivan, because she could not bend and climb enough to get into the minivan.

She also needed an exemption from gym class, a straight-backed chair to sit in,

and someone to carry her books to the bus. She was not supposed to walk in a

crowded corridor, either, where she might get jostled. All of this was in the

504 plan.

In fact, two and a half years later, she still has the 504 plan and we still

cite the surgery as a reason for not doing certain kinds of gym activities, some

of which were hard for my daughter to do to begin with. I think that not

everyone requires longer term restrictions, but it is helpful to be able to get

an exemption from a sport if it is likely to be dangerous or could be injurious.

To get the 504 plan, you would need a letter from a doctor or surgeon and a

meeting of the 504 committee. Each state in the U.S. has its own procedure for

setting this up.

Does this start to answer your question?

Janet

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> Have any of you had a 504 plan wrote for your children for a long term

disability? Ruthi

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