Re:probiotics in a neti pot for sinus healing

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

I tried putting the probiotic in the neti pot a few times and

remember it idid sting a bit. It didn't seem to help me but instead I

prefer Patty's idea of putting 1-2 drops of GSE in the salted water.

It has really cleared up my chronic sinusitis. If I lay off too long,

it creeps back in and I go right back to it. I am very very pleased

with the great results I have had and it didn't sting with only 2

drops in there. I also use a bit more salt than the recommended

amount b/c I found that to feel better as well. You probably have to

experiment and see what works best.

Millie

[Guest guest]

Grapefruit seed extract (GSE) recently came up on another group I

belong to. When I went to find the articles I had bookmarked which

disproved the synthetic claims, they were gone. Instead, I found an

article by Citricidal explaining the manufacturing process. I won't

put it all here, but basically, they add a bunch of chemicals, heat it

up etc which in the end produces benzethonium chloride. This is a

SYNTHETIC antimicrobial which has demonstrated toxicity. For example,

as it degrades it releases benzene and chlorine gas. The more reading

I did, the more I decided I do NOT want to put this stuff in or on my

body and I've quit using it. Here's an excerpt:

Grapefruit pulp and seed is dried and ground into a fine powder.

The powder is dissolved in purified water and distilled to remove the

fiber and pectin.

The distilled slurry is spray dried at low temperatures forming a

concentrated flavonoid powder.

This concentrated powder is dissolved in vegetable glycerine and

heated.

Food grade ammonium chloride and ascorbic acid are added, and this

mixture is heated under pressure. The amount of ammonium chloride

remaining in finished Citricidal is 15-19%; the amount of ascorbic acid

remaining is 2.5-3.0%.

The ammoniated mixture undergoes catalytic conversion using natural

catalysts, including hydrochloric acid and natural enzymes. There is no

residue of hydrochloric acid after the reaction.

The slurry is cooled, filtered, and treated with ultraviolet light.

The main active components in the finished product are a group of

quaternary ammonium chlorides, including benzethonium chloride

(illustrated here) or a compound nearly identical to it.

Benzethonium chloride is a well-known synthetic antiseptic agent; it is

not added to the grapefruit extract, but is formed from the original

grapefruit flavonoids by the ammoniation process.

To me, this information puts GSE in the same category as any synthetic

antibacterial agent...ie it's chemical and leads to increased

resistance of microbes. GSE that was tested and found not to contain

benzethonium chloride and/or triclosan had no antimicrobial

properties. Anyway, for now, I've decided to no longer use it.

Here's one article that convinced me GSE is probably a scam:

http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/grapefruitseedextract.html

Patty

< but instead I prefer Patty's idea of putting 1-2 drops of GSE in the

salted water.