Re: loyalty

[Guest guest]

Amen Alice!

I have not even been hooked up but I am more excited about my

Implant than i ever was about any of the many HA's i tried. Mainly

due to the fact that MANY hearing Aid despensors are CROOKS IMO.. I

happen to find the best that wasn't and He is the BEST one in

Rochester NY IMO. He is the one that suggested I see about getting a

CI because NO matter how much I spent on a new HA it would not

help..

Like you said " any Audie " should be happy for a sucessful CI

patient.. Just NOT many Aidie's that sell HA's )

Cheers,

Evel

> Brad - Be serious. There are way too many happy people because

they have made the CI decision. This goes much further back than

viewing someone like you as an enemy. CI users have found something

that they thought was lost to them forever. It's not a small

thing...it's huge. It has given hope and pulled many people from

dispair to great joy.

>

> Yes.. we are going to defend this and be loyal because that is

human nature. You simply cannot know what this means in a person's

life. One thing I have to give you credit for is making members of

this list see how much we agree with each other no matter what type

of implant we are using. We got to see what the implant really

means to us.

>

> Yes.. you have pushed a " hot button " with the group and it is

deserved because we have too much to be thankful for not to be

defensive when someone comes along to challenge what we know and

enjoy every day of our lives. We haven't forgotten what it was like

pre-ci nor will we ever forget.

>

> I'm now beginning to feel as if you think that we are a threat to

you for some reason. As an audiologist, you should be happy to meet

individuals who have solved their hearing loss needs. Isn't that

what an audiologist hopes to see?

>

> Alice

>

> Is this just an emotional " hot button " as Alice has suggested

such that each patient's loyalty to the device that gave them back

what no other could is making them see an enemy where none exists?

>

> ____________________________________________

>

> Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA

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[Guest guest]

I am by no means an expert on this subject but 11 year old girls are quite a handful. They will be friend one day and then the next day they are enemies for no apparent reason at all. My 13 year old had this happen to her at age 11, 5th grade....best friend one day with a group of girls then one day the "queen bee" of the group decided that was now out of the group and to be ignored. This devastated my daughter and I just had to tell her that at this age girls can be very mean. I bought and read the book Queen Bees and Wanna Bees that explained a lot about how girls act at this age...how cruel (and down right evil) they can be (much worse than boys).

And I even tried to talk to the other parents and they wouldn't hear anything I was saying because their daughters never lie....at this point I knew that I was dealing with idiot naive parents.

Vicki

-- ( ) loyalty

Hi group, I haven't posted in ages! My 11-year-old daughter with PDD has been doing great, and part of the stability in her life has been a life long best friend. Last weekend, the friend's dad said maybe we should take a couple weeks off. Why? seems his daughter said, "You don't love me as much as my little brother." Innocent enough. He said "Why would you say that?" She says, " (my daughter) told me to say it." This seems all innocent, except it seems my daughter didn't say it, and she is devasted. "Why would anyone betray me like this?" To me it seems obvious. She lied to get out of trouble, but my daughter has been out of sorts all week. It is like an attachment issue. That one person I knew I could always trust, I can't trust anymore. I'm not sure what to say or do? "Friends sometimes betray each other"? That sounds pretty lame. Any suggestions?Wayne

[Guest guest]

Thanks Vicki,

In some ways, I think social climbing is part of what may damage my daughter's

relationship with her best friend. Her friend is very socially conscious,

recognizes what " in clothes " need to be worn, which girl is the queen bee. My

daughter could care less and sometimes that leaves them speaking different

languages. Her firend will call her up and ask what she is going to be wearing.

My daughter will say " Who cares. I don't care about that fashion stuff. I don't

want to care about it. " (I don't know if that is her PDD or having me for a

dad:)

Wayne

>

> I am by no means an expert on this subject but 11 year old girls are quite a

> handful. They will be friend one day and then the next day they are enemies

> for no apparent reason at all. My 13 year old had this happen to her at age

> 11, 5th grade....best friend one day with a group of girls then one day the

> queen bee " of the group decided that was now out of the group and to

> be ignored. This devastated my daughter and I just had to tell her that at

> this age girls can be very mean. I bought and read the book Queen Bees and

> Wanna Bees that explained a lot about how girls act at this age...how cruel

> (and down right evil) they can be (much worse than boys).

>

> And I even tried to talk to the other parents and they wouldn't hear

> anything I was saying because their daughters never lie....at this point I

> knew that I was dealing with idiot naive parents.

>

> Vicki

>

[Guest guest]

Yes the fashion thing does not sit well with my youngest daughter because she has such issues with clothing. One year she couldn't stand the seams on the shoulders so we had to buy shirts a little bigger so the seams were off hanging the shoulder. Then there was the collar issue...she has to be able to push her chin into her chest without hitting a collar so hoodies were out (and that is what was "in") and so she would stretch the necks of her shirts so she could touch her chin to her chest (she has Tourette Syndrome and OCD too!)so between the sagging shirts and the stretched collars she looked like a bum. And she didn't care! She is used to being a loner and I don't think that it bothers her as much as it does me. She does have her sister as a role model and she does want to be like her and so now she is starting to want to change just a little. But she found friend who were not into fashion either. One little girl's religious beliefs dictates that she wear long skirts so she does. Another little girl's parent simply cannot afford the designer clothes. These girls shared a common bond with my daughter and so they started to hang out at school.

Vicki

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Thanks Vicki, In some ways, I think social climbing is part of what may damage my daughter's relationship with her best friend. Her friend is very socially conscious, recognizes what "in clothes" need to be worn, which girl is the queen bee. My daughter could care less and sometimes that leaves them speaking different languages. Her firend will call her up and ask what she is going to be wearing. My daughter will say "Who cares. I don't care about that fashion stuff. I don't want to care about it." (I don't know if that is her PDD or having me for a dad:)Wayne>> I am by no means an expert on this subject but 11 year old girls are quite a> handful. They will be friend one day and then the next day they are enemies> for no apparent reason at all. My 13 year old had this happen to her at age> 11, 5th grade....best friend one day with a group of girls then one day the > queen bee" of the group decided that was now out of the group and to> be ignored. This devastated my daughter and I just had to tell her that at> this age girls can be very mean. I bought and read the book Queen Bees and> Wanna Bees that explained a lot about how girls act at this age...how cruel> (and down right evil) they can be (much worse than boys).> > And I even tried to talk to the other parents and they wouldn't hear> anything I was saying because their daughters never lie....at this point I> knew that I was dealing with idiot naive parents.> > Vicki >

[Guest guest]

It sounds lame but it's true. Sometimes even good friends screw up or lie to us. It's just a fact of life, not a good fact. Hope she is feeling better now, this can be devastating at times. The part that confuses me is that the girl's father bought that as a reason for her saying that. Most parents would see that there was a deeper issue going on. Or perhaps the girl just wanted attention and this is how she thought to get it? At any rate, I would explain to my kid these things and that this person has some issues to deal with...yadda yadda. It does sound trite but it's true. People are not perfect and most of us have problems and do things we shouldn't to avoid dealing with them. It doesn't make it better.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

( ) loyalty

Hi group,

I haven't posted in ages!

My 11-year-old daughter with PDD has been doing great, and part of the stability in her life has been a life long best friend. Last weekend, the friend's dad said maybe we should take a couple weeks off. Why? seems his daughter said, "You don't love me as much as my little brother." Innocent enough. He said "Why would you say that?" She says, " (my daughter) told me to say it." This seems all innocent, except it seems my daughter didn't say it, and she is devasted. "Why would anyone betray me like this?" To me it seems obvious. She lied to get out of trouble, but my daughter has been out of sorts all week. It is like an attachment issue. That one person I knew I could always trust, I can't trust anymore. I'm not sure what to say or do? "Friends sometimes betray each other"? That sounds pretty lame. Any suggestions?

Wayne