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I have been sent two of those notices. I am not a spammer. Not sure

why I am getting those. One said that it will take legal action

against me. I sent a nasty gram back to them but I don't really

believe anyone will read it.

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Have you looked into residential treatment places? Do you have an IEP and Medicaid for him? IF yes, I would call his doctor or developmental center and ask? I'd call his therapy places also and ask what and where? I would call every lead and push that a child is being harmed your daughter...

In a message dated 2/7/2011 11:29:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jenniferhermanski@... writes:

Have a child with AS and ODD? I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach. I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children. His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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Oh ....

Hugs to you. I'm soo sorry. I don't have any advice other than to contact by email or phone, you state's Autism Society?

I know you'll get some good help from others here from the group, though.

Just wanted to let you know that you are cared about.

Robin

......A rich man is not one who has the most,

but who needs the least.....

From: <jenniferhermanski@...>Subject: ( ) Anybody else Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:29 AM

Have a child with AS and ODD? I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach. I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he

is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now

and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high

functioning children. His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am

hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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I can only imagine how tough that is. I took my hfa to the grocery

store last week b/c dh was out of town and I spent the next week

waiting for child services to show up at my door for something the

video surveillance caught or something yes I had my hand on her neck

but I wasn't grabbing or holding her, it just seems that if I set it

there and she feels me there she SOMETIMES feels that I'm in control

and it calms her. However the 2nd time I had to do this she yanked

away and I did try to grab her b/c I thought she was trying to get

away to hit her sister (who she previously was hitting reapetedly).

She yanked to quick though so I ended up with a hand full of her hair.

So I had to resort to taking her by the arm instead but when I do

that she bites me so I learned in the past to do it like you see on

cops, with her hand behind her back she can't yank you up and bite you

but she fights to get away from that. Imagine this scene, I'm sure it

looks like child abuse.

But after that I had the advantage of deciding I won't take her to the

store again. My husband will be home, my parents will watch her, etc.

I can't imagine not having anyone to help.

Will he even be able to go to camp and stay? I know my niece has

issues too and my sister got called to come get her 2 days into camp

last year. I am the last person to push meds as I hate my dd taking

them but have you tried mood stabilizers. We resorted to it when I

felt her siblings were in danger and it helps. I also 2nd calling the

autism society. I know ours does parents night out (free) and they

have information on respite care. Also your state disabilities and

special needs board may be able to get you some information. Have you

applied for medacaid/disability? If your income is low he may qualify

for disability and you can get him medacaid then if he doesn't

already, he may also qualify for a stipend. We didn't qualify for

disability b/c of our income but my daughter did qualify as disabled

so were able to get medacaid through the katie beckett waiver.

On 2/7/11, <jenniferhermanski@...> wrote:

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

> crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he

> didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it

> was LIKE he was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to

> hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left

> my house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of

> his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his

> room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us).

> Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my

> hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to

> him and he kicked her in the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him

> is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am

> only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their

> eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no

> reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he

> is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his

> one true love, video games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter.

> I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just

> moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when

> I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I

> take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to

> walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't

> look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I

> really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law

> is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time.

> I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I

> would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad

> credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country

> and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in

> prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

> not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child

> is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her

> brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are

> not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local

> Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

> never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks

> in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid

> counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate

> stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years

> old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just

> says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a

> moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son

> shouts " oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like

> WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

> older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

> person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

> suggestions.

>

>

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we had the exact same problem 6 months ago. after several trips to docs and stuff, we finally found an expert in aspergers and he put my son on risperidone and it has changed our life. It is not normal by any means, but so much better and i can actually leave the kids in a room together without supervision again. my kids are 10 and 12. get help asap, when aspies reach puberty, they turn into Tasmanian devils! Sycamore Art StudiosSycamore Art SchoolDeborah GustlinGraphic & Web DesignArt classes for K-12www.sycamoreartstudios.comwww.sycamoreartschool.comHome: 408-710-0892 Business: 408-710-6070From:

<jenniferhermanski@...> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:29:07 AMSubject: ( ) Anybody else

Have a child with AS and ODD?

I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!

Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)

I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach.

I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.

I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"

Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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Has he been tested for bipolar? From: <jenniferhermanski@...>Subject: ( ) Anybody else Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:29 AM

Have a child with AS and ODD?

I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!

Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)

I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach.

I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.

I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"

Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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Where do you live? GET AN ADVOCATE please! Go back to RC and appeal and apply to IHSS! Careyhttp://www.GreenDiaperStore.comSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "" <jenniferhermanski@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:29:07 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Anybody else Have a child with AS and ODD? I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach. I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children. His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time " Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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I agree about residental treatment. I sent (Ok, had him transported in the middle of the night) my then 15 year old to Family Life Center in Petaluma, CA. It was really aspergers-oriented instead of drug/alcohol/out of control that our first residential treatment , ACC in Springville, Utah. Academy at Canyon Creek, renamed Somerset, was a total waste of time and money. The school district even paid the $10K a month for it after their psychologist deemed him ED, or emotionally disturbed. Nick stayed there for over a year, and made huge strides even though he wouldn't admit it. There is a boys school and a separate girls school, and they made a huge difference in his anger mgmt, social skills with both adults and peers, empathy and compassion, social expectations, and some change in long term planning

skills. I'd be happy to talk to you anytime. We too gave up being able to handle things at home, and couldn't provide the routine and constant supervision that our son required. It was the hardest and best thing we ever did.

Reynolds

From: boogermeanie@... <boogermeanie@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Anybody else Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 8:35 AM

Have you looked into residential treatment places? Do you have an IEP and Medicaid for him? IF yes, I would call his doctor or developmental center and ask? I'd call his therapy places also and ask what and where? I would call every lead and push that a child is being harmed your daughter...

In a message dated 2/7/2011 11:29:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jenniferhermanski@... writes:

Have a child with AS and ODD? I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach. I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he

is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now

and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high

functioning children. His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am

hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.

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Sorry just a correction. My daughter is being hurt by my son and so am I.

>

> Have you looked into residential treatment places? Do you have an IEP and

> Medicaid for him? IF yes, I would call his doctor or developmental center

> and ask? I'd call his therapy places also and ask what and where? I would

> call every lead and push that a child is being harmed your daughter...

>

>

> In a message dated 2/7/2011 11:29:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> jenniferhermanski@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

> crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he

> didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it

was

> LIKE he was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to

> hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left

my

> house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of

> his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his

> room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us).

> Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my

> hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to

> him and he kicked her in the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is

> out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am

> only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their

> eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no

> reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is

> able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one

> true love, video games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I

> am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just

> moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when

> I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I

> take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired

> to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he

> doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I

> really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law

is

> willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I

> am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I

> would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad

> credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country

> and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in

> prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

> not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is

> being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her

> brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are

> not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local

> Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

> never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks

> in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid

> counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate

stupid

> freakin counseling. What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years

> old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just

> says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a

> moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts

" oh

> god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS

> STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

> older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

> person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

> suggestions.

>

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Thank you Robin :0)

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>

> From: <jenniferhermanski@...>

> Subject: ( ) Anybody else

>

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:29 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't

actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he

was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it

together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house

got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters

books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began

purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know

he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister

who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in

the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out

of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five

foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and

remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with him

when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process

NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video

games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am

also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved

here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go

grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him

with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far

(it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is

going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really

just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing

to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to

send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a

boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income.

His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious

problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three

years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not

know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being

abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental

Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to

deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer

has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never

had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the

door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm

busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin

counseling. What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I

have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says

whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My

mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my

psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT

AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

suggestions.

>

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My son was on Risperidone from the age of four all the way till ten. The

medication worked great except that I found we kept having to raise the dose up

and up and up because it would become ineffective after a few months. The

weight gain side effects got to be too intense for us. At age five he was

wearing a size ten pants. Also, there was recent studies that show that the

drug can cause irreversible breast growth in pubescent boys. I just wasn't

willing to take that chance.

Within six months of stopping the medication his weight went down to

proportion with his height and the kids at school had to find something new to

tease him about besides being fat.

It is so hard to find that balance between a drug that works for your child

and one that doesn't mess up his/her life in some other drastic way.

>

> we had the exact same problem 6 months ago. after several trips to docs and

> stuff, we finally found an expert in aspergers and he put my son on

risperidone

> and it has changed our life. It is not normal by any means, but so much better

> and i can actually leave the kids in a room together without supervision

again.

> my kids are 10 and 12. get help asap, when aspies reach puberty, they turn

into

> Tasmanian devils!

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> ________________________________

> From: <jenniferhermanski@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:29:07 AM

> Subject: ( ) Anybody else

>

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't

> actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE

he

> was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it

> together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house

> got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters

> books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began

> purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I

know

> he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister

> who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her

in

> the stomach.

>

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is

out

> of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five

> foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me

and

> remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with him

> when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process

> NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video

> games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am

> also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved

> here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go

> grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take

him

> with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that

far

> (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is

> going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

>

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really

just

> need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to

> watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to

> send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to

a

> boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low

income.

> His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious

> problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three

> years so I really am doing this all on my own.

>

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not

know

> how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being

> abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother)

Mental

> Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to

> deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no

longer

> has funding to help high functioning children.

>

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never

had

> such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door

> for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy

> and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin

counseling.

> What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I

> have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says

> whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My

> mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its

my

> psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT

> ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

older.

> I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

person

> out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

suggestions.

>

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My son has been reccommened to pediatric psych 4 times due to this kind of behavior . He is 8. He qualified for intensive crisis intervention through our counties helath departmetn as part of a unique program they have called Families Frist Project. He now gets inhome therapy respite, and help with therapies we can not afford that our insurance would not cover.

I would check with your counties health department and explain your situation as a crisis level mental health issue involving a child on the autism specturm and that you are afriad he may harm himself or others withhis dangrous behavior. Usually they have programs or can refer you to a program but they are not widely known about and with budget cuts the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You may also want to call your local children's hospital and explain your situation. Often they have similar referral processes to help in these kinds of situations.

From: <jenniferhermanski@...> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 3:12:54 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Anybody else

Sorry just a correction. My daughter is being hurt by my son and so am I.>> Have you looked into residential treatment places? Do you have an IEP and > Medicaid for him? IF yes, I would call his doctor or developmental center > and ask? I'd call his therapy places also and ask what and where? I would > call every lead and push that a child is being harmed your daughter...> > > In a message dated 2/7/2011 11:29:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jenniferhermanski@... writes:> > > > > Have a child with AS and ODD? > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me > crazy!> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over

because of the superbowl (he > didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was > LIKE he was watching)> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to > hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my > house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of > his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his > room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). > Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my > hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to > him and he kicked her in the stomach. > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is > out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am > only five

foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their > eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no > reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is > able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one > true love, video games, does not work.> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I > am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just > moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when > I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I > take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired > to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he > doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. > I feel like

my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I > really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is > willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I > am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I > would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad > credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country > and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in > prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do > not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is > being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her > brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me

since they are > not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local > Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children. > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has > never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks > in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid > counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid > freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years > old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just > says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a > moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh > god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like

WHO SAYS > STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets > older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one > person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable > suggestions.>

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, a couple months ago my son screamed and yelled and threw himself on

the floor at home shouting " YOURE KILLING ME! YOURE KILLING ME!! " My neighbors

called the cops and I got hauled off to jail! They let me go that night and CWS

arrived the next morning and determined there was no abuse. I had a huge bruise

on my forehead and also his nail marks on the back of my arm and of course there

were no marks on my child but CWS said they help abused kids, not abused

parents.

As for camp, he has been to camp before but only for four days. He He has

gone to church camp for the last four summers. I think as long as he was in a

different camp every couple weeks he would do just fine. He always goes through

a " honeymoon " period when in new surroundings.

is currently taking Abilify and Straterra. He is on a higher dose of

the abilify now and we just started the straterra again after having stopped it

five years ago. So far I see no improvements at home, but he says he is having

an easier time paying attention in school. Hey while we're on the subject,

anybody have trouble with sleep patterns with Straterra? has been waking

up in the middle of the night and getting into everything and anything.

> > Have a child with AS and ODD?

> > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

> > crazy!

> > Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he

> > didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it

> > was LIKE he was watching)

> > I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to

> > hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left

> > my house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of

> > his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his

> > room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us).

> > Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my

> > hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to

> > him and he kicked her in the stomach.

> > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him

> > is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am

> > only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their

> > eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no

> > reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he

> > is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his

> > one true love, video games, does not work.

> > I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter.

> > I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just

> > moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when

> > I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I

> > take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to

> > walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't

> > look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> > I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I

> > really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law

> > is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time.

> > I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I

> > would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad

> > credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country

> > and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in

> > prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

> > not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child

> > is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her

> > brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are

> > not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local

> > Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

> > never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks

> > in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid

> > counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate

> > stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time "

> > Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years

> > old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just

> > says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a

> > moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son

> > shouts " oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like

> > WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> > It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

> > older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> > Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

> > person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

> > suggestions.

> >

> >

>

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>

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> , , and Leah

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He has been tested for bi-polar and it was ruled out because there are no highs

and lows with . He is ALWAYS in a crappy mood.

>

> From: <jenniferhermanski@...>

> Subject: ( ) Anybody else

>

> Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:29 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

>

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

crazy!

>

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't

actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he

was watching)

>

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold

it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house

got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters

books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began

purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know

he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister

who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in

the stomach.

>

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is

out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only

five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me

and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with

him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process

NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video

games, does not work.

>

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I

am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved

here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go

grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him

with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far

(it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is

going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

>

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really

just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing

to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to

send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a

boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income.

His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious

problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three

years so I really am doing this all on my own.

>

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is

being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother)

Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped

to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no

longer has funding to help high functioning children.

>

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in

the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor.

I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin

counseling. What a waste of my time "

>

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old

I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says

whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My

mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my

psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT

ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

>

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

>

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

suggestions.

>

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Well my issue with cps wouldn't be with my hfa as she couldn't go to

foster care shed have to go to residential and if I went to jail for a

couple hrs or a night shed just be with her dad or grandparents. My

issue is if someone mistook something between us as abuse, called the

cops and my other kids were effected b/c I have 4 kids younger than

her, 2 cosleeping and 1 of those is fully breastfed, it would be

hugely traumatic for them.

Has he always been violent? We went through everything trying to

figure out an issue at 1 point for her violenece being worse than

usual and finally traced it back to increases in her straterra. Turns

out the straterra was starting to cause violence, we thought it wasn't

working so they raised it which made it worse so she had to come off,

she was obviously dependant on it though b/c coming off was one of the

worst weeks if not the worst in my entire life. She did stabilize

from there but does get worse when her mood stabilizer needs raised.

However I think depakote is starting not to work. We aren't sure if

they need to try another stabilizer, anti depressant or anti psychotic

On 2/7/11, <jenniferhermanski@...> wrote:

> , a couple months ago my son screamed and yelled and threw himself

> on the floor at home shouting " YOURE KILLING ME! YOURE KILLING ME!! " My

> neighbors called the cops and I got hauled off to jail! They let me go that

> night and CWS arrived the next morning and determined there was no abuse. I

> had a huge bruise on my forehead and also his nail marks on the back of my

> arm and of course there were no marks on my child but CWS said they help

> abused kids, not abused parents.

> As for camp, he has been to camp before but only for four days. He He has

> gone to church camp for the last four summers. I think as long as he was

> in a different camp every couple weeks he would do just fine. He always

> goes through a " honeymoon " period when in new surroundings.

> is currently taking Abilify and Straterra. He is on a higher dose

> of the abilify now and we just started the straterra again after having

> stopped it five years ago. So far I see no improvements at home, but he

> says he is having an easier time paying attention in school. Hey while

> we're on the subject, anybody have trouble with sleep patterns with

> Straterra? has been waking up in the middle of the night and getting

> into everything and anything.

>

>

>> > Have a child with AS and ODD?

>> > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving

>> > me

>> > crazy!

>> > Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he

>> > didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so

>> > it

>> > was LIKE he was watching)

>> > I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able

>> > to

>> > hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy

>> > left

>> > my house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one

>> > of

>> > his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in

>> > his

>> > room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below

>> > us).

>> > Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and

>> > into my

>> > hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something

>> > to

>> > him and he kicked her in the stomach.

>> > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining

>> > him

>> > is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I

>> > am

>> > only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll

>> > their

>> > eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is

>> > no

>> > reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and

>> > he

>> > is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away

>> > his

>> > one true love, video games, does not work.

>> > I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my

>> > daughter.

>> > I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We

>> > just

>> > moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home

>> > when

>> > I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff.

>> > If I

>> > take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired

>> > to

>> > walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he

>> > doesn't

>> > look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

>> > I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I

>> > really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in

>> > law

>> > is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer

>> > time.

>> > I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible.

>> > I

>> > would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have

>> > bad

>> > credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the

>> > country

>> > and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is

>> > in

>> > prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

>> > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they

>> > do

>> > not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no

>> > child

>> > is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by

>> > her

>> > brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they

>> > are

>> > not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local

>> > Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

>> > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and

>> > has

>> > never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she

>> > walks

>> > in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid

>> > counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I

>> > hate

>> > stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time "

>> > Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12

>> > years

>> > old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he

>> > just

>> > says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a

>> > moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son

>> > shouts " oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok

>> > like

>> > WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

>> > It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he

>> > gets

>> > older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

>> > Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just

>> > one

>> > person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or

>> > valuable

>> > suggestions.

>> >

>> >

>>

>> --

>> Sent from my mobile device

>>

>> -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,

>> , , and Leah

>>

>

>

>

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Hi! I wanted you to know I have been there too. My DS is 9 and I can barely stop

him when he gets out of control. Our DS has AS and ODD. My DD has been scared

recently of him when he gets out of control. When he is bored he usually lashes

out at her. We finally resorted to medication at our wits end. We were very

resistant but for us it has been amazing. We tried prozac and that made him for

violent. We started abilify 3 weeks ago and our little boy is back. He is

feeling better. Less fighting, more flexibilty, etc. The day we got abilify we

were told to call the cops for his behavior as the tantrum was over an hour when

we call the dr. We made an appointment once he calmed down. Calling the cops

scared him!! Email me offline if you want and I am more than happy to chat with

you. Big hug! It is hard I know!!

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't

actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he

was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold

it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house

got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters

books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began

purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know

he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister

who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in

the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is

out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only

five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me

and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with

him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process

NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video

games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I

am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved

here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go

grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him

with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far

(it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is

going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really

just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing

to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to

send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a

boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income.

His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious

problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three

years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is

being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother)

Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped

to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no

longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in

the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor.

I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin

counseling. What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old

I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says

whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My

mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my

psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT

ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

suggestions.

>

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My son takes resperidon too and it works great. He has put on a little weight but we try to keep healthy snacks in the house and keep him active to try to counter the weight gain. It is very frustrating trying to find the right meds or medication combination. Has your son ever been on Zoloft? What medications does he take, if any?

I think your son might benefit from a residential program if things get worse. I also would say contact your area autism center. How does your son do in school?

Adolescence does amplify things, and not everything works for everybody. For a while we had to take all of our son's privileges away. He would start the day with ZERO free time or privileges and for every hour that he didn't have issues or for every thing he did that he was suppose to (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, do homework, etc) he would earn 5 minutes of "free" time. After school we would add up his points and determine how much "free time" he had earned. 1 hour, 2 hours etc. and that was how long he could play xbox or on his laptop. If there was 4 hours until bedtime then the remainder of time he had to read or something else.

It sounds harsh but I tell you it didn't take long and it worked. Our kids often feel too entitled. They assume that it's their "right" to play xbox etc. I told my son no one is going to put me in jail if I don't let him play his computer games. He tried to call my bluff of course but it didn't work. He got the message. I'm not saying this is the miracle answer, just a thought. ne

From: <jenniferhermanski@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Anybody else Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 4:27 PM

My son was on Risperidone from the age of four all the way till ten. The medication worked great except that I found we kept having to raise the dose up and up and up because it would become ineffective after a few months. The weight gain side effects got to be too intense for us. At age five he was wearing a size ten pants. Also, there was recent studies that show that the drug can cause irreversible breast growth in pubescent boys. I just wasn't willing to take that chance.Within six months of stopping the medication his weight went down to proportion with his height and the kids at school had to find something new to tease him about besides being fat. It is so hard to find that balance between a drug that works for your child and one that doesn't mess up his/her life in some other drastic way. >> we had the exact same problem 6 months ago. after several trips to docs and > stuff, we finally found an expert in aspergers and he put my son on risperidone > and it has changed our life. It is not normal by any means, but so much better > and i can actually leave the kids in a room together without supervision again. > my kids are 10 and 12. get help asap, when aspies reach puberty, they turn into > Tasmanian devils! > > > Sycamore Art Studios> Sycamore Art School> Deborah Gustlin> Graphic & Web Design> Art classes for K-12> www.sycamoreartstudios.com> www.sycamoreartschool.com> Home: 408-710-0892 > Business: 408-710-6070> > > > > >

________________________________> From: <jenniferhermanski@...>> > Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:29:07 AM> Subject: ( ) Anybody else> > > Have a child with AS and ODD? > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't > actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he > was watching)> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it > together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house > got the "wild" look in his eye. He

started ripping up one of his sisters > books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began > purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know > he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister > who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in > the stomach. > > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out > of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five > foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and > remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him > when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process > NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video > games, does not

work.> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am > also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved > here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go > grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him > with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far > (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is > going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. > > I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just > need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to > watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to > send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a > boarding

school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. > His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious > problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three > years so I really am doing this all on my own. > > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know > how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being > abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental > Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to > deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer > has funding to help high functioning children. > > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had > such a hard time making a connection with a client.

When she walks in the door > for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy > and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. > What a waste of my time"> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I > have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says > whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My > mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my > psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT > ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. > I immagine puberty isn't helping much.> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person > out there who can relate

or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.>

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Once again, sounds like my son. My mom and I recognize that he just can't handle any kind of major shopping stuff. We have completely switched how we do things to avoid it. We shop on Mondays now, while he's in school. Summers, we trade off, or leave him at home with my dad if he's home. Same thing for school holidays and snow days.On the rare occasion that we don't have a choice, we go with a very short, specific list. We get only what is on that list, and get it FAST. He's too big and heavy to ride in the carts - otherwise we would definately indulge him in one of his obsessions, reading. Poor kid can tune out a tornado if he's got his nose in a book.HTHFawnFrom: Durocher <funwith4@...> Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 11:20:27 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Anybody else

I can only imagine how tough that is. I took my hfa to the grocery

store last week b/c dh was out of town and I spent the next week

waiting for child services to show up at my door for something the

video surveillance caught or something yes I had my hand on her neck

but I wasn't grabbing or holding her, it just seems that if I set it

there and she feels me there she SOMETIMES feels that I'm in control

and it calms her. However the 2nd time I had to do this she yanked

away and I did try to grab her b/c I thought she was trying to get

away to hit her sister (who she previously was hitting reapetedly).

She yanked to quick though so I ended up with a hand full of her hair.

So I had to resort to taking her by the arm instead but when I do

that she bites me so I learned in the past to do it like you see on

cops, with her hand behind her back she can't yank you up and bite you

but she fights to get away from that. Imagine this scene, I'm sure it

looks like child abuse.

But after that I had the advantage of deciding I won't take her to the

store again. My husband will be home, my parents will watch her, etc.

I can't imagine not having anyone to help.

Will he even be able to go to camp and stay? I know my niece has

issues too and my sister got called to come get her 2 days into camp

last year. I am the last person to push meds as I hate my dd taking

them but have you tried mood stabilizers. We resorted to it when I

felt her siblings were in danger and it helps. I also 2nd calling the

autism society. I know ours does parents night out (free) and they

have information on respite care. Also your state disabilities and

special needs board may be able to get you some information. Have you

applied for medacaid/disability? If your income is low he may qualify

for disability and you can get him medacaid then if he doesn't

already, he may also qualify for a stipend. We didn't qualify for

disability b/c of our income but my daughter did qualify as disabled

so were able to get medacaid through the katie beckett waiver.

On 2/7/11, <jenniferhermanski@...> wrote:

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

> crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he

> didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it

> was LIKE he was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to

> hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left

> my house got the "wild" look in his eye. He started ripping up one of

> his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his

> room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us).

> Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my

> hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to

> him and he kicked her in the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him

> is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am

> only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their

> eyes at me and remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no

> reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he

> is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his

> one true love, video games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter.

> I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just

> moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when

> I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I

> take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to

> walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't

> look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I

> really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law

> is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time.

> I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I

> would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad

> credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country

> and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in

> prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

> not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child

> is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her

> brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are

> not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local

> Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

> never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks

> in the door for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid

> counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate

> stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time"

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years

> old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just

> says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a

> moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son

> shouts "oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like

> WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

> older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

> person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

> suggestions.

>

>

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You have to use a behavior plan and have him earn his

computer/video time by being respectful to others.

You have to shape his behavior over time.

I work with the behaviorists at Yale parent and

Child Conduct Clinic over the phone. Google them.

I have very similar issues with my child. She gets some

things just because she is our daughter, we don't

take holiday's away, we take her to an activity on the

weekend.

But the one and only way for her to earn computer time

is with respectful behavior. No hitting in other words.

She doesn't hit at school or with others so I know she

can hold herself together.

My daughter is rude to therapists too. And she use to hit me in the

session. There is no reasoning with a kid in this frame of mind.

We stopped going but I started working with Yale.

The trick though is to give lots of praise for little things,

like pass the salt please (oh thank you) daily.

The home life has to remain friendly and empathtic but

firm.

You say you are sorry that he gets so mad, but that your

job is to help him control himself.

Offer to make a quiet place for him to go in a part of the

room when mad, however he may just get madder at you. Don't

give in on the video earning though.

You may have to have him earn 30 minutes for quiet in the morning

30 min for after school to dinner and another 30 min to be used

the next day if he is respectful after dinner til bedtime.

Hang in there, not give in on this. This is a proven behavior therapy that you

don't need big rewards or big punishments.

If he is not on zoloft, try a very low dose and keep it low.

Sometimes anti-depressants will make a kid worse beyond

the lowest dose. THere is some evidence that zoloft and

other anti-depressants help reduce irritability.

Anti-psychotic drugs like rispedal and abilify are used

with kids on the spectrum when there are aggressive.

Again if you go this route (after trying an anti-depressant)

keep it low. Side effects, weight gain go up in higher doses.

In the end you need a behavior plan. This is what they do in

foster care and residental programs. A kid with AS and ODD

needs things very black and white.

Let us know if we can offer any other suggestions. We all want to

help each other.

Pam

>

> Have a child with AS and ODD?

> I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me

crazy!

> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't

actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he

was watching)

> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold

it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house

got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters

books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began

purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know

he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister

who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in

the stomach.

> I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is

out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only

five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me

and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with

him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process

NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video

games, does not work.

> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I

am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved

here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go

grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him

with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far

(it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is

going and bumps into people and blocks aisles.

> I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really

just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing

to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to

send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a

boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income.

His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious

problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three

years so I really am doing this all on my own.

> I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do

not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is

being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother)

Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped

to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no

longer has funding to help high functioning children.

> His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has

never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in

the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor.

I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin

counseling. What a waste of my time "

> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old

I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says

whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My

mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my

psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT

ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????

> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets

older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.

> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one

person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable

suggestions.

>

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yes, my son is also on zoloft for panic and anxiety, .25 mg and the risperdone is .5 mg per day and life is so much better. we keep him active and he only eats food he grows or from Whole Foods. At least he is fussy in the healthy food way. my son needs rewards for behavior also and as hard as it is, if you stick to it, they actually respond after time. Sycamore Art StudiosSycamore Art SchoolDeborah GustlinGraphic & Web

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My son takes resperidon too and it works great. He has put on a little weight but we try to keep healthy snacks in the house and keep him active to try to counter the weight gain. It is very frustrating trying to find the right meds or medication combination. Has your son ever been on Zoloft? What medications does he take, if any?

I think your son might benefit from a residential program if things get worse. I also would say contact your area autism center. How does your son do in school?

Adolescence does amplify things, and not everything works for everybody. For a while we had to take all of our son's privileges away. He would start the day with ZERO free time or privileges and for every hour that he didn't have issues or for every thing he did that he was suppose to (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, do homework, etc) he would earn 5 minutes of "free" time. After school we would add up his points and determine how much "free time" he had earned. 1 hour, 2 hours etc. and that was how long he could play xbox or on his laptop. If there was 4 hours until bedtime then the remainder of time he had to read or something else.

It sounds harsh but I tell you it didn't take long and it worked. Our kids often feel too entitled. They assume that it's their "right" to play xbox etc. I told my son no one is going to put me in jail if I don't let him play his computer games. He tried to call my bluff of course but it didn't work. He got the message. I'm not saying this is the miracle answer, just a thought. ne

From: <jenniferhermanski@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Anybody else Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 4:27 PM

My son was on Risperidone from the age of four all the way till ten. The medication worked great except that I found we kept having to raise the dose up and up and up because it would become ineffective after a few months. The weight gain side effects got to be too intense for us. At age five he was wearing a size ten pants. Also, there was recent studies that show that the drug can cause irreversible breast growth in pubescent boys. I just wasn't willing to take that chance.Within six months of stopping the medication his weight went down to proportion with his height and the kids at school had to find something new to tease him about besides being fat. It is so hard to find that balance between a drug that works for your child and one that doesn't mess up his/her life in some other drastic way. >> we had the exact same problem 6 months ago. after several trips to docs and > stuff, we finally found an expert in aspergers and he put my son on risperidone > and it has changed our life. It is not normal by any means, but so much better > and i can actually leave the kids in a room together without supervision again. > my kids are 10 and 12. get help asap, when aspies reach puberty, they turn into > Tasmanian devils! > > > Sycamore Art Studios> Sycamore Art School> Deborah Gustlin> Graphic & Web Design> Art classes for K-12> www.sycamoreartstudios.com> www.sycamoreartschool.com> Home: 408-710-0892 > Business: 408-710-6070> > > > > >

________________________________> From: <jenniferhermanski@...>> > Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:29:07 AM> Subject: ( ) Anybody else> > > Have a child with AS and ODD? > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't > actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he > was watching)> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it > together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house > got the "wild" look in his eye. He

started ripping up one of his sisters > books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began > purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know > he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister > who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in > the stomach. > > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out > of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five > foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and > remind me that hes "Your child, your problem." There is no reasoning with him > when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process > NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video > games, does not

work.> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am > also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved > here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go > grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him > with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far > (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is > going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. > > I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just > need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to > watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to > send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a > boarding

school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. > His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious > problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three > years so I really am doing this all on my own. > > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know > how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being > abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental > Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to > deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer > has funding to help high functioning children. > > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had > such a hard time making a connection with a client.

When she walks in the door > for their weekly session he says "Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy > and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. > What a waste of my time"> Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I > have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says > whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My > mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts "oh god its my > psycho granny here to spew her nonsense". Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT > ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. > I immagine puberty isn't helping much.> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person > out there who can relate

or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.>

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Ic were not ony ones dealing with cps. They have agency for parents. Cps have no clue what parents go through I know kids are suffering. But it takes its toll on parents . Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "Ann" <anne_logan@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 22:08:40 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Re: Anybody else Hi! I wanted you to know I have been there too. My DS is 9 and I can barely stop him when he gets out of control. Our DS has AS and ODD. My DD has been scared recently of him when he gets out of control. When he is bored he usually lashes out at her. We finally resorted to medication at our wits end. We were very resistant but for us it has been amazing. We tried prozac and that made him for violent. We started abilify 3 weeks ago and our little boy is back. He is feeling better. Less fighting, more flexibilty, etc. The day we got abilify we were told to call the cops for his behavior as the tantrum was over an hour when we call the dr. We made an appointment once he calmed down. Calling the cops scared him!! Email me offline if you want and I am more than happy to chat with you. Big hug! It is hard I know!! >> Have a child with AS and ODD? > I really need some support right now. This child of mine is driving me crazy!> Yesterday had a neighbor boy over because of the superbowl (he didn't actually WATCH the game, but he played his gameboy near the TV so it was LIKE he was watching)> I think having so much stimulation overwhelmed him, but he was able to hold it together while his company was over. Then as soon as his buddy left my house got the " wild " look in his eye. He started ripping up one of his sisters books because he was bored. When asked to go calm down in his room he began purposely stomping on the floor (we have neighbors below us). Next thing I know he is throwing all of his toys out of his room and into my hallway. His sister who has quite a sassy mouth at times said something to him and he kicked her in the stomach. > I don't know what to do when he gets like this anymore. Restraining him is out of the question because he is over five feet tall and 106 lbs. I am only five foot two. Calling the cops is out because they always roll their eyes at me and remind me that hes " Your child, your problem. " There is no reasoning with him when hes like this. His eyes go completely blank and he is able to process NOTHING. Consequences don't work. Even taking away his one true love, video games, does not work.> I am scared of him sometimes and I am especially afraid for my daughter. I am also worried he is going to get us kicked out of our apartment. We just moved here in November and the neighbors hate us. If I leave him home when I go grocery shopping he trashes the house and goes through my stuff. If I take him with me he yells at me the whole time about how he is too tired to walk that far (it's only two blocks)and then in the store itself he doesn't look where he is going and bumps into people and blocks aisles. > I feel like my whole life is spinning out of control right now and I really just need a break but nobody except my drug addicted ex sister in law is willing to watch him. I hate to say it, but I can't wait for summer time. I am going to send him to as many sleep away summer camps as possible. I would send him to a boarding school or therapeutic group home but I have bad credit and low income. His biological father lives clear across the country and is having serious problems with his new marriage, and my husband is in prison for the next three years so I really am doing this all on my own. > I contacted child protective services for help and they decided they do not know how to assist us. They said they can't do anything since no child is being abused. (they don't give a sh*t that my daughter gets hit by her brother) Mental Health has told me they have no advice for me since they are not equipped to deal with people on the autism spectrum, and the local Regional Center no longer has funding to help high functioning children. > His therapist has been working with children for over 25 years and has never had such a hard time making a connection with a client. When she walks in the door for their weekly session he says " Oh God, it's my stupid counselor. I'm busy and you want to make me stop what I'm doing. I hate stupid freakin counseling. What a waste of my time " > Now he MUST have some sort of a filter on his mouth, because at 12 years old I have still never heard him actually cuss, but other than that he just says whatever is on his mind. The other day my mother stopped by for a moment. My mother has early stage alzheimers and is bi polar. My son shouts " oh god its my psycho granny here to spew her nonsense " . Ok like WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT ABOUT AND IN FRONT OF GRANDMA??????> It seems like both his ODD and his AS are getting more severe as he gets older. I immagine puberty isn't helping much.> Anyways, sorry for this long long rant, but I am hoping to find just one person out there who can relate or who has some magic solution or valuable suggestions.>

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Our 9yo son was uncontrollable, moody and violent. Then we tried, after much delay because we were against drugs, Risperdal, a mood stabilizer/antipsychotic. He takes just 1mg/daily, but it helps immeasurably. What a relief, what a difference. He’s calm enough now, and the negative downward spiral is halted enough now, so that we’ve been able to start effective counseling/behavioral therapy--- he couldn’t process any of it before. We plan to keep him on it until he has learned effective coping skills, habits, and better self control. We were terrified of him; now we see again in him the sweet boy we used to know. He’s so much happier. Perhaps I should mention that before we tried the Risperdal, our son’s psychiatrist had first tried all of the various add/adhd drugs: concerta, adderall, vyvanse, etc., as well as the non-stimulant blood-pressure med route (sorry, forgot the name). None of those worked, nor did the anti-depressants, so he finally moved on to Risperdal. Carole

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