Guest guest Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 > > I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 > > I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 H > > I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? >Hi Wilma, I have my masters in education and was a public schools teacher for 9 years. I now homeschool my son, who was just today diagnosed with Aspergers at 10 years old. The psychologist insisted I should enroll my son back into school to help with his social issues. I live in FL and know each state has different guidelines for outside services. Here the school can always fight you--and you must always have an IEP or they will not provide you any special services. If you have an eval from your psychologist/psych then they will have to give him an IEP, rather than jump thru the hoops of their own testing/etc. So that's a plus up--but it really depends on your school system to how much they will fight for a service like that. Hugs, Kristal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 that would be different than homeschooling, that is the homebound program for kids who are unable to attend school due to chronic illness, etc. My sister did this when we were younger but I can't remember why, I presume b/c of her asthma (very severe, she has been intubated twice and spent sometimes weeks in the hospital). i would look into homebound for your area but basically they have to be unable to attend school and I am not sure how that is determined but there may be a list of conditions or it may be based on doctors information On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Kristal <kristalstamper@...> wrote: >> I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? > -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 not necesarioly, you still have to qualify to get an IEP, with a doctors note they are required to give a 504 based on a diagnosis but for an IEP they have to have problems (which can be very broad and not being able to pay attention would be a reason) or a qualifying dx. But here in my state even the qualifying dx doesnt help b/c a school district doesnt have to accept an outside dx so the dx can have to be used in requesting an evaluation to see if they qualify for that dx through the school. My daughter has a dx of hfa and we were told by our mentor with the autism society as well as many others and our developmental ped that hf children frequently do not qualify as autistic under the states qualifications. we gave them proof of her dx in March and are only now getting an IEP. she had to go through 2 months of observations, furthur evaluations, etc to meet the states criteria (which I have a copy of if anyone is curious what SC state uses for criteria) and she BARELY qualified (for asd), they were still waivering up until the report was written. She would have still qualified for an IEP b/c of her behavior problems and dropping grades IN ADDITION to her other dx (adhd, bp, spd) she would have qualified as OHI but she has had the adhd dx since 1st grade and this was the 1st year she qualified for an IEP b/c she was getting straight as and not a behavior problem. We have had them evaluate her almost every year trying to get the IEP. Of course I didnt know enough to fight with before and if I had I might have been able to get her something by pointing out little things and asking the right questions and fighting everything but it would have been tough to get based on just social issues and very subtle adhd symptoms On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Kristal <kristalstamper@...> wrote: H >> I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? >Hi Wilma,I have my masters in education and was a public schools teacher for 9 years. I now homeschool my son, who was just today diagnosed with Aspergers at 10 years old.The psychologist insisted I should enroll my son back into school to help with his social issues. I live in FL and know each state has different guidelines for outside services. Here the school can always fight you--and you must always have an IEP or they will not provide you any special services. If you have an eval from your psychologist/psych then they will have to give him an IEP, rather than jump thru the hoops of their own testing/etc. So that's a plus up--but it really depends on your school system to how much they will fight for a service like that. Hugs,Kristal -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Ok here is the big question is Aspreger's autism? I went to the website TACA and tried to get some guidence from them and they shut me down. I feel like, yeah, my son is sick and has problems but not as SICK as an Autistic child. I live in Southern California and need some advice about school. My son is 10 and I am still able to control him, meaning he still obeys me, but I can see it coming, one day he is going to wake up and refuse to go to school. He HATES school, everyday he tells me about the kids that are picking on him. I try to explain that he needs to tell the adults that are around at the time its happening, he says that he does and they don't do any thing. I have been thinking about home schooling him, but I don;t want to take the important social lessons he will learn there away from him. What do I do. > > I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 My son tried the home-bound schooling for awhile. We had a note from his doctor that he could not attend school at this time due to anxiety related to his Aspergers. I asked for a tutor and the school district sent tutors to our home. This did not work out well for us, but it has worked for some kids with AS. The tutors were supposed to be in our home for 8 hours a week. The reality was that the tutors would come and go as they pleased and frequently cancelled and rescheduled at the last minute. They were not used to working with kids like my son and so were having a hard time connecting with my son. Like I would say that my son does not like to be touched and the tutor would try to hug him when she said hello & goodbye, which made him cringe. He did not have an IEP at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 It sounds like the only " important " social lesson he is learning there is that it is okay for people to pick on him, and that no one cares anyway. In my experience, junior high years are THE WORST age to be in a public school setting. Even going back there for sports games for my siblings, I was horrified by what I saw in students that age. Maybe this isn't the same for everyone, but high school was much better because everyone pretty much seemed to have gotten over that hump of defining who they were. That said, we are homeschooling my son, not for social reasons, but because he just doesn't fit into a classroom setting academically. He is either really advanced in an area or really behind, and I can provide more for him in both areas than the school can. There is a gifted school near us that also has a strong autism special needs program that I *might* try to get him into, but I can still probably do a better job at tailoring his education than they can. > > > > I have heard- that If I have a psychiatrist's note, stating that I can't get my child out of the house for school do to severe OCD etc.... the school has to provide some at home tutoring. Does anyone know about this? I have heard that she doesn't even need the E.I.P in this case. Does the school have to comply and do they fight you even if you have a doctors note? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 www.illinoishouse.org is a good site. Registration is not required in Illinois. One must teach the branches of knowledge in the English language. One must withdrawn officially from the public school. If you call the Illinois State Board of Education, they will tell you that no one will pay you, that you will lose all the WONDERFUL benefits of socialization and public education, and that you may call Kulczyk for help. Kulczyk On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, G Mrozak <mrsovaltine@...> wrote: > ** > > > Before you decide, I'd suggest looking up the homeschooling association in > your area. > > No one will pay you to do this. You will have expenses for materials, > etc. A small amount of educational expenses might be tax deductible. > > Every state has different rules about homeschooling. Last I heard, which > was a while ago (the kids of all my homeschooling friends are grown), IL > required that you teach in English and register with them as a private > school. Sounds silly, but that's the way it's structured. > > The local homeschooling association can tell you what the current IL rules > are and suggest to you where to buy good textbooks and learning materials. > > These places might help you find local groups in your area: > http://homeschoolcentral.com/support/illinois_homeschool.htm > http://illinoishomeeducation.com/home.htm > > Among my friends, I've known probably a dozen or so families who have > homeschooled. In one family's case, one of the kids had DD. In the case > of only two families, the kids were homeschooled all the way through high > school. > > -Gail > > ________________________________ > From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:42 PM > Subject: Homeschooling? > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP since > the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since I > will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate him, > would they have to pay me? > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 This is part of their proportional share. Every year, there is a meeting called by the superintendent. It is called The Timely and Meaningful Meeting. All homeschools and private school are invited to send representatives. At this meeting, the amount of proportionate share funds is disclosed, and decisions are made about the distribution of those funds. Homeschoolers often go to schools for therapies. There are also homeschoolers who prefer not to go to the school, but who ask for materials as their share of the proportionate fund expenditure. This is probably more than you really wanted to know. Jean On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, cmfinato <cmfinato@...> wrote: > ** > > > I know special ed children who are in private school (paid by parents) can > get their therapies from the public school. You may want to check with the > special ed director of your district about speech, OT, PT, adaptive PE, > etc. > > > > > > > Before you decide, I'd suggest looking up the homeschooling association > in your area. > > > > No one will pay you to do this. You will have expenses for materials, > etc. A small amount of educational expenses might be tax deductible. > > > > Every state has different rules about homeschooling. Last I heard, > which was a while ago (the kids of all my homeschooling friends are grown), > IL required that you teach in English and register with them as a private > school. Sounds silly, but that's the way it's structured. > > > > > > The local homeschooling association can tell you what the current IL > rules are and suggest to you where to buy good textbooks and learning > materials. > > > > These places might help you find local groups in your area: > > http://homeschoolcentral.com/support/illinois_homeschool.htm > > http://illinoishomeeducation.com/home.htm > > > > > > Among my friends, I've known probably a dozen or so families who have > homeschooled. In one family's case, one of the kids had DD. In the case > of only two families, the kids were homeschooled all the way through high > school. > > > > > > -Gail > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> > > > IPADDUnite > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:42 PM > > Subject: Homeschooling? > > > > > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP > since the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since > I will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate > him, would they have to pay me? > > > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 We home-schooled betweem 50-100% each year from 2nd grade thru age 22. Never ONCE was invited to such a meeting; nor was I ever informed of one. Oh well; that's behind us now. Homeschooling? > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP since the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since I will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate him, would they have to pay me? > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 One of my NT kids had, in his primary grade years, a bit of a lisp. He attended a private school. I asked the school district to screen him and they did, and we all decided that this would resolve itself (and it did). What I learned was that a district can provide services to kids who live in-district but don't attend public schools...however, the district does not have to give those students the same amount of services they'd give if the kid were a public school student. And anything offered will be at their convenience (location and time), not yours. In our district's case, that would have included me providing transportation during the school day from the private school to the school where the SLP was. -Gail ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Homeschooling? I know special ed children who are in private school (paid by parents) can get their therapies from the public school. You may want to check with the special ed director of your district about speech, OT, PT, adaptive PE, etc. > > Before you decide, I'd suggest looking up the homeschooling association in your area. > > No one will pay you to do this. You will have expenses for materials, etc. A small amount of educational expenses might be tax deductible. > > Every state has different rules about homeschooling. Last I heard, which was a while ago (the kids of all my homeschooling friends are grown), IL required that you teach in English and register with them as a private school. Sounds silly, but that's the way it's structured. > > > The local homeschooling association can tell you what the current IL rules are and suggest to you where to buy good textbooks and learning materials. > > These places might help you find local groups in your area: > http://homeschoolcentral.com/support/illinois_homeschool.htm > http://illinoishomeeducation.com/home.htm > > > Among my friends, I've known probably a dozen or so families who have homeschooled. In one family's case, one of the kids had DD. In the case of only two families, the kids were homeschooled all the way through high school. > > > -Gail > > > > ________________________________ > From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:42 PM > Subject: Homeschooling? > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP since the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since I will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate him, would they have to pay me? > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 One more thought for Tamie. I suggested connecting with a local homeschool group, but did not mention one of my reasons. There have been some districts in IL that have made it difficult and very unpleasant for parents who remove their kids to homeschool. If your district is one of them, the local homeschool group will know about it, and you can be prepared. -Gail ________________________________ From: Kulczyk <advocate4kids@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Homeschooling? www.illinoishouse.org is a good site. Registration is not required in Illinois. One must teach the branches of knowledge in the English language. One must withdrawn officially from the public school. If you call the Illinois State Board of Education, they will tell you that no one will pay you, that you will lose all the WONDERFUL benefits of socialization and public education, and that you may call Kulczyk for help. Kulczyk On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, G Mrozak <mrsovaltine@...> wrote: > ** > > > Before you decide, I'd suggest looking up the homeschooling association in > your area. > > No one will pay you to do this. You will have expenses for materials, > etc. A small amount of educational expenses might be tax deductible. > > Every state has different rules about homeschooling. Last I heard, which > was a while ago (the kids of all my homeschooling friends are grown), IL > required that you teach in English and register with them as a private > school. Sounds silly, but that's the way it's structured. > > The local homeschooling association can tell you what the current IL rules > are and suggest to you where to buy good textbooks and learning materials. > > These places might help you find local groups in your area: > http://homeschoolcentral.com/support/illinois_homeschool.htm > http://illinoishomeeducation.com/home.htm > > Among my friends, I've known probably a dozen or so families who have > homeschooled. In one family's case, one of the kids had DD. In the case > of only two families, the kids were homeschooled all the way through high > school. > > -Gail > > ________________________________ > From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:42 PM > Subject: Homeschooling? > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP since > the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since I > will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate him, > would they have to pay me? > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Just finding this thread; sorry to get in at the last minute. The schools ARE capable of educating your child - it is the LAW, not their option. So another option besides homeschooling is a due process or - easier - a complaint. Due processes, which seem to go nowhere without an attorney these days, are very expensive, but so is not working to homeschool your child. An IEP meeting with an attorney may result in more of what you want, even if you don't follow through with due process. full disclosure. I am NOT an attorney nor work for one - never have. My sons are now a few years past 22 so we have been out of the school world for awhile, but over the years we filed our share of complaints (at least 2 or 3) and due processes (at least three.) We knew we had to be prepared and have a reasonable case, along with the possibility of paying lots of money to an attorney and not winning. I don't know your case. I don't know that you can win or that you should file due process. Home schooling might be your best option. But the due process procedure is there so that parents can get what their child needs even if a school doesn't agree. Best of luck, Pam/Chicago > > Before you decide, I'd suggest looking up the homeschooling association in your area. > > No one will pay you to do this. You will have expenses for materials, etc. A small amount of educational expenses might be tax deductible. > > Every state has different rules about homeschooling. Last I heard, which was a while ago (the kids of all my homeschooling friends are grown), IL required that you teach in English and register with them as a private school. Sounds silly, but that's the way it's structured. > > > The local homeschooling association can tell you what the current IL rules are and suggest to you where to buy good textbooks and learning materials. > > These places might help you find local groups in your area: > http://homeschoolcentral.com/support/illinois_homeschool.htm > http://illinoishomeeducation.com/home.htm > > > Among my friends, I've known probably a dozen or so families who have homeschooled. In one family's case, one of the kids had DD. In the case of only two families, the kids were homeschooled all the way through high school. > > > -Gail > > > > ________________________________ > From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:42 PM > Subject: Homeschooling? > > > > Just wondering if homeschooling is an option for a child with an IEP since the school seems incapable of giving my child an education? And since I will not be able to work because I would need to stay home to educate him, would they have to pay me? > > It would be cheaper for them than sending him to a private school. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 A little late, but just read. I home schooled my daughter for a few years and the local school provided her with all of the services she would have gotten if she were in school. I had to provide the transportation, which was not convenient, but I highly recommend it if you can. I took an early retirement to do so because I felt strongly that it would greatly improve her life - and it did. There is nothing comparable to the one on one enrichment that I was able to give her. She is my only child and I am single so there was no distractions, so we had a very special circumstance. We did in a couple hours a day more than she could ever do in school and then we were able to explore the world. I found a great homeschooling group, joined 4h, and she flourished. It was a great amount of work, but well worth it. Eventually I did put her back into the school district as a sophomore in high school so that we could get all the transition connections and she could experience high school events, and she was ready to get back. They gave me no trouble at all. I did register as a private school and sent a formal certified letter to the superintendent. I contacted the high school Spec Ed dept when I was ready to go back. Good luck if this is what you decide to do. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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