Re: Can the school keep a rap sheet on my Asperger son. minute by minute?

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If they knew the first thing about behavior, they would stop doing this immediately. They could actually be ENCOURAGING these behaviors by doing this.Our kids (all kids, really) do best when we note their POSITIVE behaviors. So, if they want to keep a "rap sheet" that's what they should be focusing on: all the times he does it RIGHT.They will not be successful with this current method, and are most likely making things much, much worse. If you haven't already, call for an emergency IEP meeting and request that they have a professional behaviorist come in and observe and make recommendations. SaraSara Gardnerwww.aspergersupport.comwww.behaviortoday.info http://nototherwisespecified.typepad.com/blog/--- In , "caijiao" <caijiao@...> wrote:>> I am so upset right now. My 11-year-old son had a bad school day (well, every school day is bad, even though I don't seem to have much problem at home, unless when I get too upset with his school days and aggravate him). He has close adult supervision all the time. > > Then I found this "rap sheet" in his school bag. I am not sure if that is meant for me to see. But it really does not matter. The "rap sheet" keeps records of everything my son did or said that is inappropriate, minute by minute. It has all the details, with all the bad words, and not so bad words (10:10, said "shits" 3x; 10:10, screamed out "Hey"; 10:11, threw pencil at me). > > I made it clear at IEP meeting that I didn't want them to put all these explicit bad behaviors / words on his daily behavior chart (my son likes reviewing his own behavior charts on the bus home and often find those explicit comments funny). So most of the time, the staff have been emailing me the explicit details of the incidents, and just mark lots of 0's on his behavior charts. But nothing in the email was as detailed as this, to the minute, multiple records for the same minute!!! > > So the helper's job is to keep record all the behaviors, to the exact details, by minute? I thought s/he is supposed to prevent behaviors from happening or to mitigate the problems when they are happening? If he is busy keeping records, when does he actually work on helping my son? My son also said that he knew that the helper was keeping records and, quite a few times, he got in trouble for tearing up the helper's sheets. > > What should I do? It really gives me such an ugly feeling that all the school is doing is to establish evidences how bad my son is. But he is not bad at home at all! Even his 7-year-old sister is following him around, calling "big brother, come here, check out this and check out that". > > I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.>

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I can't say what there intention is. Is it possible they are

using Applied Behavior Analysis? In this method data

is collected, and interventions are studied for effectiveness?

In a functional behavioral assessment (FBA) ususally

a certified behaviorist is obesrving the child takes data

and then documents it.

If this is not what they are doing ask for a FBA and a behavior

plan to be written by a Certified Behavioral Consultant.

Hopefully you child is classified already.

Pam

>

> I am so upset right now. My 11-year-old son had a bad school day (well, every

school day is bad, even though I don't seem to have much problem at home, unless

when I get too upset with his school days and aggravate him). He has close adult

supervision all the time.

>

> Then I found this " rap sheet " in his school bag. I am not sure if that is

meant for me to see. But it really does not matter. The " rap sheet " keeps

records of everything my son did or said that is inappropriate, minute by

minute. It has all the details, with all the bad words, and not so bad words

(10:10, said " shits " 3x; 10:10, screamed out " Hey " ; 10:11, threw pencil at me).

>

> I made it clear at IEP meeting that I didn't want them to put all these

explicit bad behaviors / words on his daily behavior chart (my son likes

reviewing his own behavior charts on the bus home and often find those explicit

comments funny). So most of the time, the staff have been emailing me the

explicit details of the incidents, and just mark lots of 0's on his behavior

charts. But nothing in the email was as detailed as this, to the minute,

multiple records for the same minute!!!

>

> So the helper's job is to keep record all the behaviors, to the exact details,

by minute? I thought s/he is supposed to prevent behaviors from happening or to

mitigate the problems when they are happening? If he is busy keeping records,

when does he actually work on helping my son? My son also said that he knew that

the helper was keeping records and, quite a few times, he got in trouble for

tearing up the helper's sheets.

>

> What should I do? It really gives me such an ugly feeling that all the school

is doing is to establish evidences how bad my son is. But he is not bad at home

at all! Even his 7-year-old sister is following him around, calling " big

brother, come here, check out this and check out that " .

>

> I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.

>

[Guest guest]

You need to request a functional behavior assessment in writing. From

this, you will help develop a POSITIVE behavior plan. Yes, you are

right that they should be using their time more wisely - to help him

learn better behaviors. Their job is to TEACH, not to RECORD. It's

almost a joke if it weren't affecting your child. Ugh.

OTOH, you won't have any trouble getting the FBA since they have

provided pages and pages of reasons why he needs one. Keep copies of

what they are doing in case you have to file any complaints. Request

in writing for them to do an FBA and to bring in a professional

behavioral autism expert. If they just do one themselves, you won't

get anywhere since they have had opportunity to provide remediation for

his behavioral needs and have miserably failed to do so. Now you need

someone who knows what they are doing. Good luck!

Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Can the school keep a rap sheet on my

Asperger son. minute by minute?

I am so upset right now. My 11-year-old son had a bad school day (well,

every school day is bad, even though I don't seem to have much problem

at home, unless when I get too upset with his school days and aggravate

him). He has close adult supervision all the time.

Then I found this " rap sheet " in his school bag. I am not sure if that

is meant for me to see. But it really does not matter. The " rap sheet "

keeps records of everything my son did or said that is inappropriate,

minute by minute. It has all the details, with all the bad words, and

not so bad words (10:10, said " shits " 3x; 10:10, screamed out " Hey " ;

10:11, threw pencil at me).

I made it clear at IEP meeting that I didn't want them to put all these

explicit bad behaviors / words on his daily behavior chart (my son

likes reviewing his own behavior charts on the bus home and often find

those explicit comments funny). So most of the time, the staff have

been emailing me the explicit details of the incidents, and just mark

lots of 0's on his behavior charts. But nothing in the email was as

detailed as this, to the minute, multiple records for the same

minute!!!

So the helper's job is to keep record all the behaviors, to the exact

details, by minute? I thought s/he is supposed to prevent behaviors

from happening or to mitigate the problems when they are happening? If

he is busy keeping records, when does he actually work on helping my

son? My son also said that he knew that the helper was keeping records

and, quite a few times, he got in trouble for tearing up the helper's

sheets.

What should I do? It really gives me such an ugly feeling that all the

school is doing is to establish evidences how bad my son is. But he is

not bad at home at all! Even his 7-year-old sister is following him

around, calling " big brother, come here, check out this and check out

that " .

I really wish I could afford to homeschool him now.