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Could it be dyslexia? By chanceSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:00:44 -0800 (PST)< >Reply Subject: ( ) dyscalculia I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will skip numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to understand what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your child would be helpful too!!!Carolyn

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Well, at this age we have no idea where she will be with reading and such, all we know is that she has a MAJOR problem with numbers and counting.... What is frustrating is that our local ISD is telling us that she is perfectly normal.CarolynFrom: "denise092769@..." <denise092769@...> Sent: Thu, January

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Could it be dyslexia? By chanceSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>

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I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will skip numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to understand what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your child would be helpful too!!!Carolyn

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I have dyslexia numbers jump and I was very young b were d. But my parents had to push to get me tested the schools aren't helpfulSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:53:25 -0800 (PST)< >Reply Subject: Re: ( ) dyscalculia Well, at this age we have no idea where she will be with reading and such, all we know is that she has a MAJOR problem with numbers and counting.... What is frustrating is that our local ISD is telling us that she is perfectly normal.CarolynFrom: "denise092769@..." <denise092769@...> Sent: Thu, January6, 2011 9:40:31 AMSubject: Re: ( ) dyscalculia Could it be dyslexia? By chanceSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:00:44 -0800 (PST)< >Reply Subject: ( ) dyscalculia I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will skip numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to understand what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your child would be helpful too!!!Carolyn

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Our son, now 26, had major problems with math, don't think they even had a name

for it then, lol. In addition to not being able to memorize basic addition and

subtraction facts, he had all kinds of spatial difficulties, all related to

understanding math. He had a very difficult time knowing where he was in

" space. " He was always bumping into walls and other people. And as I understand

it, that is part of the dyscalulia.

He also never " internalized " a number line. i.e. most of us sort of have this

internal number line, zero is sort of at the nose and off to the right are

positive numbers and to the left are negative (an impossible concept for him

anyway). So numbers had no patterns or order they were just random. We spent an

unimaginable amount of money one summer when he was in 6th or 7th grade to have

him tutored by a spec ed teacher that went over the multiplication tables and

number line and over and over for the whole summer. Every multiplication fact

had a specific physical action with it. But, since they never followed with it

the next year at school, despite the fact he was in a school for kids with LD,

it just went poof! Thanks goodness for touch points math!

Everyone told me oh, if he can use a calculator he'll be fine. But that is not

true. He really has no concept of money either, so $2 is not any different than

$20, although they are two different sums.

One other example, for a homework assignment he was supposed to measure the

height of a table. He measured from the ceiling down to the table!

It can cause serious problems all down the road. He's having problems right now

in his job because he can't read the tic marks on the scale where they weigh the

meat for hamburgers. IMHO, dyscalculia is very under reported or diagnosed. Many

spec ed teachers never even heard of it.

So good luck with your daughter...

sue in TN

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> Well, at this age we have no idea where she will be with reading and such, all

> we know is that she has a MAJOR problem with numbers and counting.... What is

> frustrating is that our local ISD is telling us that she is perfectly normal.

> Carolyn

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>

>

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> ________________________________

> From: " denise092769@... " <denise092769@...>

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> Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 9:40:31 AM

> Subject: Re: ( ) dyscalculia

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> Could it be dyslexia? By chance

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> ________________________________

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> From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>

> Sender:

> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:00:44 -0800 (PST)

> < >

> Reply

> Subject: ( ) dyscalculia

>

> I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their

> children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She

> cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will

skip

> numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to

understand

> what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have

> is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her

> to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice

> would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your

child

> would be helpful too!!!

> Carolyn

>

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Well when I mentioned it I was laughed at at the ARD meeting because my daughter isn't even 4 yet..... I am tired and frustrated with the whole process, I am not going to give up, but I am definitely frustrated.....CarolynFrom: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:53:44 PMSubject: ( ) Re: dyscalculia

Our son, now 26, had major problems with math, don't think they even had a name for it then, lol. In addition to not being able to memorize basic addition and subtraction facts, he had all kinds of spatial difficulties, all related to understanding math. He had a very difficult time knowing where he was in "space." He was always bumping into walls and other people. And as I understand it, that is part of the dyscalulia.

He also never "internalized" a number line. i.e. most of us sort of have this internal number line, zero is sort of at the nose and off to the right are positive numbers and to the left are negative (an impossible concept for him anyway). So numbers had no patterns or order they were just random. We spent an unimaginable amount of money one summer when he was in 6th or 7th grade to have him tutored by a spec ed teacher that went over the multiplication tables and number line and over and over for the whole summer. Every multiplication fact had a specific physical action with it. But, since they never followed with it the next year at school, despite the fact he was in a school for kids with LD, it just went poof! Thanks goodness for touch points math!

Everyone told me oh, if he can use a calculator he'll be fine. But that is not true. He really has no concept of money either, so $2 is not any different than $20, although they are two different sums.

One other example, for a homework assignment he was supposed to measure the height of a table. He measured from the ceiling down to the table!

It can cause serious problems all down the road. He's having problems right now in his job because he can't read the tic marks on the scale where they weigh the meat for hamburgers. IMHO, dyscalculia is very under reported or diagnosed. Many spec ed teachers never even heard of it.

So good luck with your daughter...

sue in TN

>

> Well, at this age we have no idea where she will be with reading and such, all

> we know is that she has a MAJOR problem with numbers and counting.... What is

> frustrating is that our local ISD is telling us that she is perfectly normal.

> Carolyn

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: "denise092769@..." <denise092769@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 9:40:31 AM

> Subject: Re: ( ) dyscalculia

>

>

> Could it be dyslexia? By chance

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> ________________________________

>

> From: Carolyn Weisbard <ccweisbard@...>

> Sender:

> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:00:44 -0800 (PST)

> < >

> Reply

> Subject: ( ) dyscalculia

>

> I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their

> children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She

> cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will skip

> numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to understand

> what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have

> is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her

> to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice

> would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your child

> would be helpful too!!!

> Carolyn

>

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You might consider looking up "milestones" online and searching into what is age appropriate for your child. I think counting to five is something a 4 year old can do but yours is just now turning 4. So it may be something not yet developed. The ages are general guidelines, not rigid rules. So some kids learn faster, some more slowly. I would not stress about counting just yet. Give it time. She'll probably get the hang of things over the next year. You can always work with her on how to count. It can be fun for her and good quality time. Read stories about the numbers, watch "the count" and sing his songs. And try to make counting meaningful by counting objects. i.e. "How many M & M's do we have now? What if we eat one. Now how many?" But I also wouldn't go crazy with it - I mean, have fun with it and teach her to enjoy numbers. I would not assume she has dyscalculia at this stage at all. Were there other reasons you think there is a problem or was this it?

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

( ) dyscalculia

I was wondering if anybody had had any experience with dyscalculia in their children? We are querying this in my daughter who will be 4 in 2 weeks. She cannot consistently count to 5, sometimes she will succeed, often she will skip numbers, jump to numbers later in the line. She also doesn't seem to understand what you want her to do when you ask her to count things. Last concern I have is that she totally cannot understand counting on her fingers, when we ask her to show her age on her fingers she looks at us like we are nuts. Any advice would be much appreciated. Oh yeah, and when you first saw issues in your child would be helpful too!!!

Carolyn

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