Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 my son 15 has both ~~~~~~~~~~Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I have the same battle. My son was diagnosed with SPD at 3, Asperger's and ADHD at 6. We are half way through the first grade and after fighting with the school system for 2 years, I was only able to get him a 504 for ADHD. They won't do anything for autism. His test scores are too high and that is the final determination for IEP. Document everything, every conversation and especially teacher comments that have anything to do with symtoms of Aspergers that might impede his education.Good luck! -- Sherri http://friendsmiling.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 To get the school to give your asperger child an IEP, you must first in writing ask for an evaluation and in the letter state your concern. If the school hasn't done this yet, they HAVE to by law. The evaluation involved several types of tests and took several days to complete. They didn't think she had aspergers either until after the eval. We had a teacher team meetings and because of their findings (even though I already had this dx from her psych doctor) of aspergers they agreed that she was eligible for an IEP, which we have written up know. Its only been 2 weeks know so I'll see how well it goes. We're lucky though because her school even has an autistic teacher which will work with her an hour a day each week and she will get learning support in her classroom because of her learning problems. It was interesting though because when they tested her IQ strength there wasn't any problems, however, she's having alot of problems in the classroom actually doing and understand the work.-From: Sherri <friendsmiling66@...>Subject: ( ) Re: Asperger's not ADHD Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 5:57 PM I have the same battle. My son was diagnosed with SPD at 3, Asperger's and ADHD at 6. We are half way through the first grade and after fighting with the school system for 2 years, I was only able to get him a 504 for ADHD. They won't do anything for autism. His test scores are too high and that is the final determination for IEP. Document everything, every conversation and especially teacher comments that have anything to do with symtoms of Aspergers that might impede his education.Good luck! -- Sherri http://friendsmiling.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I didn't know that the AS overrode the ADHD. I think it's more of a mix and dependent on the severity. I mean, for kids where the ADHD is more obviously a problem, you might need to add that to the alphabet soup. We always listed the ADHD with the HFA for my one ds because the ADHD was so "in your face" and such a problem. Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that they address his needs, not his dx. The law requires it. I would request a functional behavior assessment (FBA) be done by someone qualified. Then you can get to the triggers and design a plan to address his needs - his real needs. But I would constantly be focusing them to his needs and not really spend time arguing about a dx. If he does something related to sensory needs, then focus on educating them about that need without pushing "This is part of AS". It might gain some cooperation to refocus them on need and not dx for now. Roxanna "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson ( ) Asperger's not ADHD We're currently fighting with the school over accommodations. Our son (who is 6) was originally diagonosed with SPD and ADHD around age 3. Last year he was officially diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. I know that I have been told and have read that the Asperger's diagnosis basically overwrites the ADHD diagnosis because the ADHD symptoms/behaviors are really part of the overall Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis. Apparently I need to educate our son's school to this because they keep focusing on the ADHD behaviors and are not understanding the need to address our son's sensory processing issues throughout the school day (which would be a proactive way to prevent some of the end of the day behavior problems we have at the after school program and at home). Can someone help me with some research and information that I can share with the school? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Kids with Asperger may or maynot have various degrees of attentional deficits, implusive behaviors and organizational issues. But it is usually just given the diagnosis of AS. In a neuropyschological report the results of executive function would be documented as just that executive function and not called ADHD too. Most kids with AS (or autism) are much more sensitive to medication for ADHD and can manage only lower doses. (Dr. Hollander's book, 2007, Clinical Treatment of Autism). Rarely if ever would a ADHD kid be given rispedal for outburts. They would be given stimulants (see Dr. Hollander book). But the treatment for AS and autism is very different than the treatment for ADHD. ADHD is usually only covered in schools under a 504 plan unless they have severe behavior issues and then they are under IEP as Emotionally distrubed (often not always). Kids with AS may be classified under autism or other health impaired under IEP (of course this is often a battle too). To explain to the school, I would guess your best bet is to have the neurologist that gave you this DX write a short paragragh stating that your son's correct DX is AS. Pam hh oss al > > We're currently fighting with the school over accommodations. Our son (who is 6) was originally diagonosed with SPD and ADHD around age 3. Last year he was officially diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. I know that I have been told and have read that the Asperger's diagnosis basically overwrites the ADHD diagnosis because the ADHD symptoms/behaviors are really part of the overall Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis. Apparently I need to educate our son's school to this because they keep focusing on the ADHD behaviors and are not understanding the need to address our son's sensory processing issues throughout the school day (which would be a proactive way to prevent some of the end of the day behavior problems we have at the after school program and at home). > > Can someone help me with some research and information that I can share with the school? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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