Guest guest Posted April 15, 2000 Report Share Posted April 15, 2000 Hello Pat, My Gyn has prompted me to take EPO for years...it helps everything from hot flashes to cramps to PMS...you name it. It has many benefits..look up on ask.com or AltaVista or alltheweb.com any of those sights will give you info on evening primrose oil. Carole >From: " Bias " <PBias@...> >Reply- egroups > egroups >Subject: [ ] EPO >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:08:30 -0000 > >I started the EPO yesterday. 6 months for results, right?Amount? 1000 for P >and 1000 for A. But the amount is lsted as 1g per serving with recommended >3 servings a day. Insead of IU? So 2000 would only be two servings a day >instead of the reccommended 3 per day?Will have to do more reading on this. >Why is it listed as a womens supplement? Why is it supposed to help w/ the >womens cycle? That is what the bottle totes as benefits. It does come w/ >vitamin E included.?.Pat B > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 Hi Gillian, I really enjoyed your letter. It was very informative. Thanks. . ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Gillian Rowe " <roweg@...> Reply- egroups < onelist> Subject: [ ] EPO Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:24:52 +0100 HI PatB Yes if you have Vitamin E included in the EPO capsule, then you have to allow for the mgs of vitamin E. I was told it was 1000mgs of Evening primrose Oil, PURE EPO per condition, not EPO and Vitamin E combined. Vitamin E does have to be added to EPO to stop the oil from oxidising. I get my EPO on prescription and it is manufactured by a company in England called " Bio-Oil " , specially for medical use. Why is it a female supplement? When it was first used, females with severe PMS gain relief from their symptoms by taking EPO. Having Fibrocystic Breast Disease, PMS was murder for me. The surgeon who did my biopsy, diagnosed fibrocystic breast disease and then added, " Their is no cure, or treatment, you just have to put up with the pain! " And I did, for two years, before I started the EPO for the PA! Thankfully I have no symptoms of PMS now, in fact unless I mark my cycle off in my diary, I get caught out! Before I could tell seven days before I was due on, knew all the symptoms down to the final second. Since EPO assisted females and their PMS, they then thought, " Wonder what other conditions it can help? " The benefits of EPO and Rheumatoid Arthritis were studied by The Royal Infirmary in Glasgow and published in 1988 Annuals of Rheumatic Disease. Since then it has been studied further and is now recommended in the following conditions: Diabetes, asthma, cystic fibrosis, multiple sclerosis, alcoholism, PMT, benign breast disease, eczema, psoriasis, obesity, vascular disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, high cholesterol, inflammation, foggy brain, dementia, fatigue syndrome, ME: University of Pennsylvania 1997. It has NOT been approved in the United States for the treatment of any condition. Now that was 1997, I printed it off back then at College. As to if it has been approved since, well it has here in Europe! CONTRA INDICATIONS; epilepsy and schizophrenia, so if you have them, you should NOT take EPO! How does it work? Well it all has to do with the FAT metabolism which is as important if not more important than Protein and Carbohydrates. Dietary essential fatty acids common in borage seed oil are ultimately converted to HORMONE like substances known as PROSTAGLANDIN'S and are important for the regulation of a host of bodily functions. Scientists continue to discover regulating effects of prostaglandin's. Without the essential fatty acids, T building blocks of prostaglandin's, a malfunction of fat metabolism, is certain. For some individuals GLA, Gamma Linolenic Acid offers only have the solution. Those deficient in co-factor nutrients, specifically the vitamins pro-A, A, C, E, B2, B6, pantothenic acid, B12, biotin, and the minerals, calcium, magnesium, potassium, sulfa and zinc, sometimes have difficulties in converting the GLA into prostaglandin's. Now while I have the time and I hope the space, I shall " SAY THIS ONLY ONCE! " FOLIC ACID has be found to be DEFICIENT in people with the skin condition Psoriasis! Also it can be DRUG INDUCED, Sulphonamides, Analgesics, Corticosteriods. Deficiencies in Biotin cause fatigue, depression, eczema and inflammation of the tongue. Once you start looking at how Vitamins and Minerals effect the system, and then note what DRUGS can cause Vitamin and Mineral DEFICIENCIES, tie that up with new symptoms, the overall picture becomes VERY CLEAR! Love and God Bless Gillian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 Pat Bn writes regarding EPO: Why is it listed as a womens supplement? Why is it supposed to help w/ the womens cycle? >> From my " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " , a description of the benefits of primrose oil: " ...contains the highest amount of gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) of any food substance. This fatty acid is known to help prevent hardening of the arteries, heart disease, premenstrual syndrome, multiple sclerosis and high blood pressure. It relieves pain and inflammation; enhances the release of sex hormones, including estrogen and testosterone; aids in lowering cholesterol levels; and is beneficial for cirrhosis of the liver. Many women have found that primrose oi supplements relieve unpleasant side menopausal symptoms such as hot flashes. Because it promotes the production of estrogen, women suffering from breast cancer that is estrogen related should avoid or limit their intake of primrose oil. Black current seed oil is a good substitute. " Hope this helps :-) Patty Mod. note: Gillian swears by EPO and now we find out it helps release sex hormones? LOL thanks Patty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2000 Report Share Posted April 18, 2000 HI Gillian, I too have started to limit refined food and I too seem to be better. My husband and I were talking and we determined that the family has not had an infection in 3 years. Ever since we started watching what food we purchased and started cooking more at home. We are really enjoying the cooking together as a family. The food is great food. Now when we go out occasionally we seem to have lost the taste for it. It isn't like we thought it was. I think our tastes changed. We do feel better. My Yorkie is wanting to go for his walk. He is dragging around his leash and whinning. so I have to go as he won't leave me alone. Who runs my life anyway? Not me! ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Gillian Rowe " <roweg@...> Reply- egroups < onelist> Subject: [ ] EPO Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:37 +0100 Hi Marie Glad you enjoyed the letter, but I was in 'upset' mode, due to a demise, so was venting subconsciously as well. Imagine my surprise having returned from the Rheumatologist in England, with my EPO prescription and explaining all this to my College Tutor, who died Friday morning. You know what he said? " Gill get on that computer, log onto the Internet and surf for information of this EPO! " He also allowed me to print off articles, FOC and back then surfing was EXPENSIVE here in Ireland. I was then given the freedom to use the Internet for my health condition at College, not many Tutors would do that! Anyway, the way I started, by looking at what nutrients the body needs to fire on all engines. I figured out that drugs might strip some of these nutrients from the system, imagine my surprise when I started to read about Vitamin and Mineral deficiencies and their symptoms! It was Mom who really opened up my eyes. She recalls her Mom going out into the fields and collecting the primrose flowers. As children this was their only form of medicine. Mom never knew WHY they were given these flowers to eat, but she ate them anyway! Now sixty years down the road and her daughter is 'eating the flowers'. Life has moved on, we have more refined foods, you have GM foods in America, food production has evolved and I wonder if this is really the way to go? Once I started cutting all the refined food from my diet, my health improved? Yes I agree, it is easier for me to run up the road for a Big Mac, rather than wash and prepared my salad dinner. It is easier for me to buy Garlic Bread, rather than to crush and chop garlic. Odd though because now I enjoy preparing my meals, seem to be addicted to cooking? Love and God Bless Gillian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 Hi Gillian, My mother used to do the same for me. When I was little we had cows, we used to have a small farm in the mountains. My mom would boil the fresh milk and save the skin, put it on bread and sprinkle sugar just like you. I ate it every day. Then we moved to Canada and We got sucked into processed everything. I have fond memories of my childhood. It's funny other people did the same thing. Small world. . ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Gillian Rowe " <roweg@...> Reply- egroups < onelist> Subject: [ ] EPO Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:46:05 +0100 Hi Marie Odd about this refined food. As a child I never ate BREAD, would drive my parents deranged, because back then, bread was a staple food. I can even recall my Nana coming to visit us in London and sprinkling white sugar over my bread and butter. I still refused. At school I hated " Mashed Potato " , mainly because it was NOT authentic: boiled potatoes that was mashed, but reconstituted power potato! This stuff had very large LUMPS in it! Now I will eat new potatoes, roast potatoes or potato boiled in their jacket, but still not mashed potato! I think my body now feels that if it is not RIPPED from the ground and untouched before it hits my kitchen, then it is not worth the money I pay for it! Yes, then when you go OUT for a meal, somehow it just does not taste the same. Mom states that I act like the Cook from " The Muppets Show " , when I start cooking. I even make the same noises as HIM! Love and God Bless Gillian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 Thanks again, Gillian--ignore my last plea! I had seen another study similar to the one you sited but without the amounts so THANK YOU! I will also keep Laurie & Mark in prayer. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 gillian, you r e-mails are well written and highly entertaining. I feel as though i have been invited into a soap opera and can hardly wait for the next episode. well this week you have shared your [excuse me] blow job experience, boxer short[rash experience] and your fall from grace experience. please do not misunderstand i'm glad you are okay. I just think you need to get that book written so the world can benifit from this life of yours, along with hermes and your mother with much anticipation cathy from mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2000 Report Share Posted December 18, 2000 Relief from the pain, my girl, or at least makes it tolerable. Some days pain free for me...others I can handle it. But there are other benefits too. Helps with my depression, helps with fatigue, and helps other body systems work to their potiental. I won't be without mine. It took two months to kick in though. Don't expect a quick fix. But once it kicks in, you will bless the day Gillian told us about it. Donna saewen@... wrote: Can some tell me what EPO (Evening Primrose Oil) does for PA? I cannot remember, but I finally found it at Walgreens & am starting to take it...Thanks., Monroe, MI-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>eLertsIt's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>'>1/9699/0/_/494167/_/977171025/--------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 donna , you are so right !!!!!! cathy from mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Donna, Did you ever have any problem with the EPO making you sick to your stomach? I've tried it twice now, for several days at a time, and it really makes me sick. When I stop it, the nausea goes away. I really want to use it but hate feeling sick. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 HI...I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, BUT I DO NOT TAKE IT ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. I USUALLY TAKE IT AT A SEPARATE TIME FROM OTHER MEDICATIONS ALSO. NEVER TAKE IT WITH A WARM DRINK ALWAYS COLD OR ROOM TEMP. EVEN IF I HAVEN'T EATEN IN A WHILE, I WILL EAT A CRACKER OR SOMETHING WITH IT. I USUALLY TAKE MINE THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY IT WOULD MAKE YOU ILL. I AM NOT ON ANY HEAVY DUTY DRUGS LIKE ENBREL,MTX,ETC. I AM ON BP MED,NAPROXEN,BENEDRYLE, AND POTASSIUM. I HOPE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE IT. I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW GREAT I FEEL OVER LAST YEAR THIS TIME. I FEEL LIKE A NEW PERSON. LET ME KNOW HOW THINGS TURN OUT FOR YOU. Colón <lindale@...> wrote: Donna, Did you ever have any problem with the EPO making you sick to your stomach? I've tried it twice now, for several days at a time, and it really makes me sick. When I stop it, the nausea goes away. I really want to use it but hate feeling sick. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2002 Report Share Posted February 17, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: mello5757@... Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:40 AM Subject: [] EPO If you mean EPO the anabolic steroid, go to: www.anabolicstore.com/details/EPO.htm If you mean EPO as in Evening Primrose Oil, go to: www.herbalremedies.com/14132.html?source=Overture BetsyHas anyone heard of EPO? It has a longer name, but that's all I know. Supposedly good for people with toxins in their system. Puts more oxygen in bloodstream and cells. Joanne FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Our daughter really needed the GLA and LA as determined by testing. Despite years of CLO and fish oil supps, she also had the 'chicken skin' on upper arms and back. Borage and EPO orally both lead to seizures - she's been seizure prone. Soy, another source, was out of the question. We have had success using EPO topically. We began with 500mg and now use 1500mg daily(for a 120# teen). It took about 6 mos for the 'chicken skin' to go away with this routine. From our experience borage provoked seizures more quickly that the EPO orally. We've not tried borage topically for that reason. - In , " Debi " <fightingautism@y...> wrote: > I have not seen this discussed in this thread, but I have read that > evening primrose oil in " too high " amounts can trigger seizures, and > those with autism are at higher risk of developing seizure > disorders. I do not, however, know what " too high " is. Anyone > reading, pls comment! >The only thing I can say, is that EPO really caused major >constipation for my family. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 In a message dated 4/27/2004 6:55:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mbrookh@... writes: > We have had success using EPO topically. We began with > 500mg and now use 1500mg daily(for a 120# teen). It took about 6 mos > for the 'chicken skin' to go away with this routine Do you out the oil right on the chicken skin, or all over? Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Dear , Please, has it been your personal experience that borage and EPO caused seizures in your child? My son is currently taking EPO; he has a tendency to seizures. Thankyou, Margaret (UK) > > I have not seen this discussed in this thread, but I have read that > > evening primrose oil in " too high " amounts can trigger seizures, and > > those with autism are at higher risk of developing seizure > > disorders. I do not, however, know what " too high " is. Anyone > > reading, pls comment! > > > >The only thing I can say, is that EPO really caused major > >constipation for my family. > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Margaret, YES! We tried both of these orally in the past and both were related to seizures. When we got the disgusting looking blood work back, I decided to try the EPO again but topically. She tolerates this well without either seizures or 'pre-seizure' behavior. We do it at night as it smells a bit and means a little extra soaking for PJs etc. From: " mcollins2001uk " <m.collins9@n...> Date: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:31 pm Subject: Re: EPO Dear , Please, has it been your personal experience that borage and EPO caused seizures in your child? My son is currently taking EPO; he has a tendency to seizures. Thankyou, Margaret (UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 ---what is EPO? Where can you purchasen it?-- Original Message ----- From: lanellici@... Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [ ] re: EPO In a message dated 4/27/2004 6:55:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mbrookh@... writes: > We have had success using EPO topically. We began with > 500mg and now use 1500mg daily(for a 120# teen). It took about 6 mos > for the 'chicken skin' to go away with this routine Do you out the oil right on the chicken skin, or all over? Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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