Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Raina, OMG! I can't even imagine your situation. My now 13 yr old Aspie used to be very similar in the morning and most mornings now aren't the smoothest but at least he is older and I don't have to physically do things for him. But I still have to tell him the same things EVERY single day. Anyway....how well does he get to sleep at night? My son used to take hours and that caused him to drag a$$ in the morning. Since he gets medication now to help him sleep mornings are better. You might want to check into that. Just a thought. Also, my son can't stand to be rushed or hurried. The more I try to hurry him, the more aggitated he gets and ruder, then the more stressed I get and so on. So now I make sure he gets up REAL early so he has that extra time, which therefor makes him have to go to bed earlier. He doesn't like it, but we negotiate...you get your butt in gear in the morning and then you can stay up later. It will work for a while and then we have to go back again. Just one of those things with Aspies. Good luck and I pray you get some relief. <<hugs>> ~ne > > Hello, > I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum. > > Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with " I dont want to go to school " and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus.... > > He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! > > If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!! > > We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him " if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice " he will in return say " No I am not going to be good " like he just gives up!! > > My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! > > Thank you so much! > (I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Raina, I don't have much help or advice on this one. Our son drags but once we get him through the first week or two he calms down and it becomes part of his routine. I did have one idea for you. Since you have to do it sometimes anyway you might try driving him to school everyday and skipping the bus part. A quiet ride to school might allow him some adjustment time for the transition to school. Plus if he has sensory issues I'm sure the bus ride is major stressor for him. By eliminating the bus ride you might solve the issue IF, and its a big if, the bus ride is a major part of the problem. I remember as a kid that bus rides can be great or torture. And I was a normal kid. So for an ASPIE I can't imagine it being the way to start the morning. You might start off by telling him over the weekend that mommy is going to drive him to school every day next week. That way he's got that in his head from the get go. At school its very important that the teacher have a pretty normal schedule for the kids. Most teacher's do this but you might want to get the inside scoop from your kids, other parents, etc... as to how well the teacher manages the class. A poor teacher might contribute also to his stress. And finally try to get good sleep and try things that help reduce anxiety in general. From: Raina <my6lilguys@...>Subject: ( ) Just help or any advice for morning transition~ Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 1:39 PM Hello, I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum.Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with "I dont want to go to school" and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus....He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!!We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him "if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice" he will in return say "No I am not going to be good" like he just gives up!!My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! Thank you so much!(I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Hello there, Just like Suzanne I too have a 13 yo Aspie. Mornings are rough, VERY rough. It takes me a couple hours to decompress after dropping him off at school everyday. We've tried absolutely eveything and sometimes things will work for a week or so but then he's back to the morning meanie. I agree with Suzanne on the whole time thing. My son's number one issue is being rushed, he's goes into vapor lock and meltdown when he's rushed. We get up EXTRA early so if need be he can take 25 mins to eat a bowl of cereal. Right now we're tying a check off board and he checks off what hes done. At night we " try " to have his school lunch made and in the fridge, pick out his clothes for the next day and have his backpack and school id at the door. In the morning this just leaves getting dressed, eating breakfast, taking his pills and brushing his teeth and trust me that can can over an hour with my son. I also try my hardest not to get into battles with him, he's constantly complaining about EVERYTHING, right down to things like " the dog is in my way " In mornings I try to parent like a robot, not showing any emotion or letting him know he's frustrating me to no end. One thing I have realized with him is he needs instant gratification. Telling him he can play his video game or one the computer for 30 mins if he has a good morning is a pleasure that is too far away for him to justify being " good " for. Would something like a special (little) treat in your son's lunch be something he'd be willing to work for? Or for that age maybe you could have a little grab bag of Dollar Store party favors he could pick from every morning when he gets out of the car at school, if he behaves? When my son has the attitude that he doesn't need to go to school I put it all on the authorities. I tell him that it's against the law for me to let him stay home if he's not sick. We've had to go as far as driving him to the parking lot of Juvenille Hall just to show him that we're serious, he HAS to go to school. There have been a few times that he's physically refused to go to school (he's 110 lbs and tall so I cannot move him) I've threatened to call the Truent Officer to come get him and fortunatley he believes me. Lord knows what I'd ever do if my threat wasn't taken seriously. My husband refuses to belive my son's behavior is anything but pure stubborness. He refuses to read any of the dozens of books we have on the subject of aspergers, bipolar or sensory issues. I have to continually remind him to stop yelling at our son, that's a BIG trigger for his meltdowns too. Feeling like we're parenting this on our own is hard I know. I've been married for 19 yrs and I've yet to change his views on anything. I just do to best I can and come here to vent and beg for help whenever life gets overwhelming. Trust me I'm still working on things and like I said nothing lasts for long so I'm right along w/ you as far as frustration goes. But keep trying and maybe, just maybe something will work W. > > Hello, > I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum. > > Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with " I dont want to go to school " and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus.... > > He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! > > If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!! > > We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him " if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice " he will in return say " No I am not going to be good " like he just gives up!! > > My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! > > Thank you so much! > (I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I think that is a good idea. If you are having this much trouble, a car ride to school may help. If it improves the morning routine at all, it is worth it. I know it's not fair to the other kids, but explain that you are just trying it to see if it will help everyone in the family to have a nicer, more pleasant morning. Maybe you can work out with his teacher that he gets a small reward from her when he gets into class each morning as another incentive. And maybe another incentive at lunchtime or even more often. It seems like the whole day is way too long for him to hope to keep in control, but maybe smaller rewards during the day will help him and lessen some of the anxiety and stress. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne suzmarkwood@... From: Raina <my6lilguys@...>Subject: ( ) Just help or any advice for morning transition~ Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 1:39 PM Hello, I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum.Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with "I dont want to go to school" and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus....He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!!We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him "if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice" he will in return say "No I am not going to be good" like he just gives up!!My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! Thank you so much!(I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I think it is sounding the same for all of us!! I know that my 10yo seems to get up somedays and nothing is going to be OK - I feel like I walk on egg shells but it doesn't matter at all. If it is a bad morning it is a bad morning. This week I had almost made it through the morning - kept myself calm (on the outside!!!) made it to the door when she wouldn't let me leave. THis was where I lost it. I hate that I seem to have a time limit of tolerance and it just isn't quite long enough yet!!! I keep reminding myself that this is not easy and is not something all parents go through or understand. It is also frustrating when something works so well until it doesnt at all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 My thoughts are to have a list of things for him to do in the morning, and then once they are done, he gets a reward (something he wants). My son is allowed 15 minutes of videogames once he is ready for the day. He is responsible for getting ready (admittedly I'm prompting him a lot). I suppose in theory one could simply say " once you are ready for school, you get to do X until it is time to go " , so he is motivated to go quickly. Then make him stop 10 minutes before you have to leave for school (at a set time). Another reward is provided after school that is dependent upon a good morning transition after he gets off the game as well as a decent day of school. Mornings are rough though. I homeschool my son now and am a lot more flexible in the morning. I don't have the time pressure, and the important thing is that he gets it done. - > > > > Hello, > > I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum. > > > > Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with " I dont want to go to school " and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus.... > > > > He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! > > > > If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!! > > > > We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him " if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice " he will in return say " No I am not going to be good " like he just gives up!! > > > > My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! > > > > Thank you so much! > > (I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 This may be way too simplistic, but it has worked for both of my kids as they entered their teens. I wake them up and give them a protein shake/fruit smoothie in bed. Then I give them about 15 to 20 minutes to get up and get ready for the day. I still have to nag a little to keep them going, but they are generally in a better mood if they have eaten something before having to face the day. > > > > Hello, > > I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum. > > > > Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with " I dont want to go to school " and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus.... > > > > He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! > > > > If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!! > > > > We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him " if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice " he will in return say " No I am not going to be good " like he just gives up!! > > > > My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! > > > > Thank you so much! > > (I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I don't know if it will help, but we just started a picture schedule with our daughter for the morning (she's almost 7). I took photos of each step she needs to do to get ready. I let her choose the order of some of it. She puts on a sticker by each picture as she does each step. It has really helped for her, so I don't need to give her many verbal prompts to get ready. If she's not doing anything, I will now say " follow your chart " or " do the next step " rather than the specific thing. Before she used to waste a lot of time, and just fool around, or get distracted or wild. Maybe it would help him to get through the routine, but I think you need some other help with school, so that he won't try to avoid it so much, as you mentioned you are working on. I hope things get better, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thank you all so much for the wonderful responses to our horrible morning transition...I have found that getting ashton up earlier is way more devastating for him for some reason...it makes him contemplate and think more about school (he does not like going) therefore by the time it is ready for the bus to come he has put to much thought into it and runs and hides and then takes his shoes off so it makes him miss the bus..augh! He does get a good nights sleep as we have been taking melatonin for some time now and I do it at 7 so he is ready by 7:30 and then up by 7 am...he also takes respiradone at bedtime too to help him stay asleep. We are going to try the picture chart idea I think he may really like that and will benefit from it well. Time will tell, I will most certainly keep you all posted on how it goes! Thank you all so much Raina > > > > Hello, > > I have posted on here before and loved the help and support I have gotten, and I watch the boards regularly I was in hopes someone else would maybe post with the same issue~ My Aspie son Ashton is 7 and in 1st grade I cannot seem to figure out his mornings they are sooooo tough and quite honestly exhaust me to the maximum. > > > > Most of the boys (my other 5) get up at 6:30 (bus comes at 7:30) Ashton I have to literally wait until 7:10 or 7:15 as he HATES school and NEVER wants to go (that is a whole nother post about the laziness of our school and the fight for an IEP we are still battling)He will usually start with " I dont want to go to school " and I tell him it is not a choice (last year he missed 43 days of school because of fighting to go and also the school calling me to come get him (will get to that later) Finally he gets up I can get him dressed and pep talk him about what a great day he is going to have his mood lightens a bit. THEN after he gets his shoes on and takes his pill (which can be a fight as well he will run from me and hold his hands over his mouth) If he decides to eat he will eat very very slow then as I am getting other kids ready to get out the door to the bus.... > > > > He escapes on me and takes his shoes off and goes and hides Thus the battle begins...I am rushed to get his shoes back on all while he is fighting me and telling me he is not going to school. If I push him and get angry with him he shuts down and gets very angry and mad and things escalate so I try to stay calm...Get him out the door with his brothers and some days he runs off or hides to miss the bus. I have often walked him to the bus however this creates outbursts and crying and is even an uglier situation! > > > > If he misses the bus and I take him he will not get out of the truck AUGH!!!! > > > > We have tried sooo many things...ie..If you go to school you can have 10 minutes on the computer etc...it works for a short time then he finally decides he knows at one point he is not going to be good and is going to be bad so why bother trying for it so when I tell him " if you go to school mom will make whatever you would like for dinner tonight your choice " he will in return say " No I am not going to be good " like he just gives up!! > > > > My 5 year old is starting kindergarten and I am terrified that with my morning routine and just all of the exhaustiion with ashton I wont be able to keep up! PLEASE HELP! > > > > Thank you so much! > > (I will be posting a HUGE issue we are having with school and IEP as well as the nonsense way they handle him at school as I have noticed alot of you with aspies have trbl with school so it is not just me augh sooo frustrating though) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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