Re: Perserverating at school - Do I intervene?

[Guest guest]

The school should not take a wait and see approach since this is an

obvious deficit in kids with AS and it does not get better on its own.

You can usually write these things into the IEP as a goal. Part of

that would then require that she be prompted, tracking how often she

needs prompting, etc. You can then monitor her progress with this. I

think these skills are not going to generalize in many kids without

some kind of real world practice. And for some, that means prompting

until they get it going. All social skills should be taught, then

generalized with prompting, then lessening prompts as she meets with

success. This is how we had to do things with my ds because he was a

quick learner and would often be able to tell you what he " should " do

in certain situations but not actually be able to do it in practice.

So we had the speech therapist go into his classroom and provide

prompting.

I usually tell my ds, " I'm getting tired and need a break " or, " My

brain can't hear any more right now " if he goes on too long. Or

alternately, you could say, " One more fact and then it's time to

discuss (new subject) " or time to do another activity or whatever.

Oh yeah, and as to your subject line - YES! I would intervene. As you

realize, kids will be turned off by her doing this and not give her a

chance later on. Once she gets labeled it will be so t

ough to get

through that in order for them to give her a second chance. So the

sooner she gets help, the better.

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Perserverating at school - Do I intervene?

My daughter started at a new special ed school this fall she is

11. We had to appeal to the school and we got a new placement.

She was on home instruction for months. The school is small and geared

to kids with learning issues

not AS. So far she has been staying longer at school.

It seems like a great match academically.

Our problem is that she talks to much about her animals with adults and

peers. I am concerned the peers with start to ignore her as they

have in the public school.

I would like the social worker to meet with her and a female

peer once or twice a week and have my daughter practice

initiating and holding a conversation on other topics of

interests to her peers. She can do it when a adult helps

her move on by suggesting other topics.

The school was inclined to take a wait an

d see atititude.

And see if she manages to connect on her own.

Hmm my daughter was out of school since last March because

of school anxiety. And we had to change schools.

She has no friends. She is too obessed with talking about

animals. Even when I broaden her interests by taking her

to an art class she is making animals. She likes to make

videos but of animals. You get the idea.

I have had her in social skill classes but it seems she

needs to be prompted or helped to change the topic in converstaion.

What do you do at home if your AS child keeps

talking about their special interest. She looks

so excited and happy to have my attention. I hate to

be mean and tell her I am bored. But we have

to practice talking about other things too.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I think you just have to keep doing what you're doing. Tell her, after a while, that she needs to wind down on the talking about the specific interests so much. Tell her about conversation give-and-take....

Sounds like you're already doing that.........I'd say, "Keep it up".

Keep at the school. Practice is exactly what she needs.

This, also, is a part of AS....like it or not.

Heck...if they all did "typical" things, we wouldn't be on here pouring out our hearts. he he.

The school needs to take a pro-active approach.......and listen to you.

Keep it up. Keep working with your daughter........it'll get better.

I always told my son that we all listen to someone else at times, and people will listen to him, if he limits it. Good luck.

Robin

Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine!!

From: susanonderko <susanonderko@...>Subject: ( ) Perserverating at school - Do I intervene? Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:51 AM

My daughter started at a new special ed school this fall she is 11. We had to appeal to the school and we got a new placement.She was on home instruction for months. The school is small and geared to kids with learning issues not AS. So far she has been staying longer at school. It seems like a great match academically. Our problem is that she talks to much about her animals with adults and peers. I am concerned the peers with start to ignore her as they have in the public school. I would like the social worker to meet with her and a female peer once or twice a week and have my daughter practiceinitiating and holding a conversation on other topics of interests to her peers. She can do it when a adult helpsher move on by suggesting other topics. The school was inclined to take a wait and see atititude.And see if she manages to connect on her own.Hmm my daughter was out of school

since last March becauseof school anxiety. And we had to change schools.She has no friends. She is too obessed with talking aboutanimals. Even when I broaden her interests by taking herto an art class she is making animals. She likes to makevideos but of animals. You get the idea.I have had her in social skill classes but it seems sheneeds to be prompted or helped to change the topic in converstaion.What do you do at home if your AS child keepstalking about their special interest. She looksso excited and happy to have my attention. I hate to be mean and tell her I am bored. But we haveto practice talking about other things too. Any ideas will be appreciated.Pam

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the feedback! I was starting to feel emotional and couldn't

think straight!

Pam

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> The school should not take a wait and see approach since this is an

> obvious deficit in kids with AS and it does not get better on its own.

> You can usually write these things into the IEP as a goal. Part of

> that would then require that she be prompted, tracking how often she

> needs prompting, etc. You can then monitor her progress with this. I

> think these skills are not going to generalize in many kids without

> some kind of real world practice. And for some, that means prompting

> until they get it going. All social skills should be taught, then

> generalized with prompting, then lessening prompts as she meets with

> success. This is how we had to do things with my ds because he was a

> quick learner and would often be able to tell you what he " should " do

> in certain situations but not actually be able to do it in practice.

> So we had the speech therapist go into his classroom and provide

> prompting.

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> I usually tell my ds, " I'm getting tired and need a break " or, " My

> brain can't hear any more right now " if he goes on too long. Or

> alternately, you could say, " One more fact and then it's time to

> discuss (new subject) " or time to do another activity or whatever.

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> Oh yeah, and as to your subject line - YES! I would intervene. As you

> realize, kids will be turned off by her doing this and not give her a

> chance later on. Once she gets labeled it will be so t

> ough to get

> through that in order for them to give her a second chance. So the

> sooner she gets help, the better.

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> She was on home instruction for months. The school is small and geared

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> not AS. So far she has been staying longer at school.

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> It seems like a great match academically.

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> Our problem is that she talks to much about her animals with adults and

> peers. I am concerned the peers with start to ignore her as they

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> have in the public school.

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> I would like the social worker to meet with her and a female

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> peer once or twice a week and have my daughter practice

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> initiating and holding a conversation on other topics of

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> interests to her peers. She can do it when a adult helps

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> her move on by suggesting other topics.

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> The school was inclined to take a wait an

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> And see if she manages to connect on her own.

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> Hmm my daughter was out of school since last March because

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> of school anxiety. And we had to change schools.

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> She has no friends. She is too obessed with talking about

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> animals. Even when I broaden her interests by taking her

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> to an art class she is making animals. She likes to make

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> videos but of animals. You get the idea.

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> I have had her in social skill classes but it seems she

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> needs to be prompted or helped to change the topic in converstaion.

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> What do you do at home if your AS child keeps

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> talking about their special interest. She looks

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> so excited and happy to have my attention. I hate to

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> be mean and tell her I am bored. But we have

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> to practice talking about other things too.

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Thanks Robin! I really appeciate your help.

We changed her school and still the issues follow us,

oh boy. I was hoping for more support. The school is smaller

and all on one level making it much easier to get around. There

are only about 40 middle school kids (she's in 6th).

Some things are good about the school.

I appreciate the help!

Pam

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> From: susanonderko <susanonderko@...>

> Subject: ( ) Perserverating at school - Do I intervene?

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> Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:51 AM

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> My daughter started at a new special ed school this fall she is

> 11. We had to appeal to the school and we got a new placement.

> She was on home instruction for months. The school is small and geared to kids

with learning issues

> not AS. So far she has been staying longer at school.

> It seems like a great match academically.

>

> Our problem is that she talks to much about her animals with adults and peers.

I am concerned the peers with start to ignore her as they

> have in the public school.

>

> I would like the social worker to meet with her and a female

> peer once or twice a week and have my daughter practice

> initiating and holding a conversation on other topics of

> interests to her peers. She can do it when a adult helps

> her move on by suggesting other topics.

>

> The school was inclined to take a wait and see atititude.

> And see if she manages to connect on her own.

>

> Hmm my daughter was out of school since last March because

> of school anxiety. And we had to change schools.

> She has no friends. She is too obessed with talking about

> animals. Even when I broaden her interests by taking her

> to an art class she is making animals. She likes to make

> videos but of animals. You get the idea.

>

> I have had her in social skill classes but it seems she

> needs to be prompted or helped to change the topic in converstaion.

>

> What do you do at home if your AS child keeps

> talking about their special interest. She looks

> so excited and happy to have my attention. I hate to

> be mean and tell her I am bored. But we have

> to practice talking about other things too.

>

> Any ideas will be appreciated.

>

> Pam

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