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Lorinda

I went through a research study at Mich. State U. in 1990 for SAD using

phototherapy. It was very interesting.

Yes, I do have it and yes, from late Oct to early March I bask in the

light of full spectrum fluorescents each morn. Helps a lot.

I do not have seizures, my son does. I have other dx.

However, the more I study the two of us, the more commonality I find.

Even if you've lived in the south, unless you spend adequate amounts

of time in the sun daily, your bodyclock may be off increasing your seizure

activity.

Melatonin supplementation does nothing for me. However, increasing my

serotonin levels with SAM-e is amazing.

I have a book by the journalist who's personal journal provided a doc

at the NMIH to identify this disorder.... Rosenthal, I believe is his name.

mjh

In a message dated 9/8/02 5:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

>

> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Lorinda <lorindarose@...>

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 869

>

>

> Hi..

> Yes, I've heard of SAD and researched it over and over. The thing is..I

> don't get depressed. But my seizures get worse...much worse. Where I may

> go into status one day in summer before ovulation, I'll go into 3 days of

> status.And, I have more nocturnal seizures in the winter. Needless to say

> I don't look forward to winter..not even the Holidays. I've even studied

> chronobiology..looking for clues. I guess I asked the wrong question. I

> want to know how our chemistry changes with the seasons...besides

> Melatonin... However, when Zoe suggested I look at SAD..I did again.. and I

> ran across some interesting research..not written for the layman

> however..:) dealing with Fractal and Chaotic Dynamics in Nervous Systems

> and Low Dimensial Chaos.

> http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/ciszewski99application.html Another site

> however made sense to me and got me thinking.. although they were

> theorizing and I didn't agree with everything..it explained what may

> possibly be happening. http://www.naples.net/~nfn03605/dheamig.htm So tell

> me what you think. Maybe my problem is opposite of SAD. Maybe, and of

> course I'm theorizing myself, and would have to have tests run, but maybe

> my melatonin levels are all ready low and then in the winter when my body

> is asking for even more, my seizures get worse because my body isn't able

> to produce. IF this is the case..light therapy may still help..just fooling

> my body into believing it doesn't need more. *sigh* Mark is lucky, I wish

> my education matched my curiosity..I'd be off and running. Where this

> diorder may be miserable, it definately is not boring. This also brings up

> another question. My accupuncturist was able to manipulate the energy all

> ready within me...and without supplementation was able to stop my early

> morning seizures....how? To answer the other part of your question..I have

> lived all over.. right now I'm in Utah. Last year I was in Florida and

> before that I lived in Yuma for some time...about the sunniest place on

> earth. Sorry for being long winded... but I'm curious what you think about

> my theory.

> Lorinda

>

> foxhillers@... wrote:Lorinda

> Please define what you mean by going thru hell..... and where do you live?

> Ever hear of Seasonal Affective Disorder?

> mjh

>

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That must have been interesting. How did they use phototherapy to diagnose it?

If you don't use the fluorescents or take serotonin do you get depressed? I

want to know if depression is always present.. that will be the question I ask

a specialist. I definately need some testing done.

foxhillers@... wrote:Lorinda

I went through a research study at Mich. State U. in 1990 for SAD using

phototherapy. It was very interesting.

Yes, I do have it and yes, from late Oct to early March I bask in the

light of full spectrum fluorescents each morn. Helps a lot.

I do not have seizures, my son does. I have other dx.

However, the more I study the two of us, the more commonality I find.

Even if you've lived in the south, unless you spend adequate amounts

of time in the sun daily, your bodyclock may be off increasing your seizure

activity.

Melatonin supplementation does nothing for me. However, increasing my

serotonin levels with SAM-e is amazing.

I have a book by the journalist who's personal journal provided a doc

at the NMIH to identify this disorder.... Rosenthal, I believe is his name.

mjh

In a message dated 9/8/02 5:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

>

> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Lorinda

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 869

>

>

> Hi..

> Yes, I've heard of SAD and researched it over and over. The thing is..I

> don't get depressed. But my seizures get worse...much worse. Where I may

> go into status one day in summer before ovulation, I'll go into 3 days of

> status.And, I have more nocturnal seizures in the winter. Needless to say

> I don't look forward to winter..not even the Holidays. I've even studied

> chronobiology..looking for clues. I guess I asked the wrong question. I

> want to know how our chemistry changes with the seasons...besides

> Melatonin... However, when Zoe suggested I look at SAD..I did again.. and I

> ran across some interesting research..not written for the layman

> however..:) dealing with Fractal and Chaotic Dynamics in Nervous Systems

> and Low Dimensial Chaos.

> http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/ciszewski99application.html Another site

> however made sense to me and got me thinking.. although they were

> theorizing and I didn't agree with everything..it explained what may

> possibly be happening. http://www.naples.net/~nfn03605/dheamig.htm So tell

> me what you think. Maybe my problem is opposite of SAD. Maybe, and of

> course I'm theorizing myself, and would have to have tests run, but maybe

> my melatonin levels are all ready low and then in the winter when my body

> is asking for even more, my seizures get worse because my body isn't able

> to produce. IF this is the case..light therapy may still help..just fooling

> my body into believing it doesn't need more. *sigh* Mark is lucky, I wish

> my education matched my curiosity..I'd be off and running. Where this

> diorder may be miserable, it definately is not boring. This also brings up

> another question. My accupuncturist was able to manipulate the energy all

> ready within me...and without supplementation was able to stop my early

> morning seizures....how? To answer the other part of your question..I have

> lived all over.. right now I'm in Utah. Last year I was in Florida and

> before that I lived in Yuma for some time...about the sunniest place on

> earth. Sorry for being long winded... but I'm curious what you think about

> my theory.

> Lorinda

>

> foxhillers@... wrote:Lorinda

> Please define what you mean by going thru hell..... and where do you live?

> Ever hear of Seasonal Affective Disorder?

> mjh

>

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Mercury poisoning is frequently misdiagnosed as clinical depression. It was

for me.

>From: Lorinda <lorindarose@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] SAD

>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 19:46:36 -0700 (PDT)

>

>

>That must have been interesting. How did they use phototherapy to diagnose

>it?

> If you don't use the fluorescents or take serotonin do you get depressed?

>I want to know if depression is always present.. that will be the question

>I ask a specialist. I definately need some testing done.

> foxhillers@... wrote:Lorinda

>I went through a research study at Mich. State U. in 1990 for SAD using

>phototherapy. It was very interesting.

>Yes, I do have it and yes, from late Oct to early March I bask in the

>light of full spectrum fluorescents each morn. Helps a lot.

>I do not have seizures, my son does. I have other dx.

>However, the more I study the two of us, the more commonality I find.

>

>Even if you've lived in the south, unless you spend adequate amounts

>of time in the sun daily, your bodyclock may be off increasing your seizure

>activity.

>

>Melatonin supplementation does nothing for me. However, increasing my

>serotonin levels with SAM-e is amazing.

>

>I have a book by the journalist who's personal journal provided a doc

>at the NMIH to identify this disorder.... Rosenthal, I believe is his name.

>

>mjh

>

>

>In a message dated 9/8/02 5:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

>

> >

> > Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT)

> > From: Lorinda

> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 869

> >

> >

> > Hi..

> > Yes, I've heard of SAD and researched it over and over. The thing is..I

> > don't get depressed. But my seizures get worse...much worse. Where I may

> > go into status one day in summer before ovulation, I'll go into 3 days

>of

> > status.And, I have more nocturnal seizures in the winter. Needless to

>say

> > I don't look forward to winter..not even the Holidays. I've even studied

> > chronobiology..looking for clues. I guess I asked the wrong question. I

> > want to know how our chemistry changes with the seasons...besides

> > Melatonin... However, when Zoe suggested I look at SAD..I did again..

>and I

> > ran across some interesting research..not written for the layman

> > however..:) dealing with Fractal and Chaotic Dynamics in Nervous Systems

> > and Low Dimensial Chaos.

> > http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/ciszewski99application.html Another site

> > however made sense to me and got me thinking.. although they were

> > theorizing and I didn't agree with everything..it explained what may

> > possibly be happening. http://www.naples.net/~nfn03605/dheamig.htm So

>tell

> > me what you think. Maybe my problem is opposite of SAD. Maybe, and of

> > course I'm theorizing myself, and would have to have tests run, but

>maybe

> > my melatonin levels are all ready low and then in the winter when my

>body

> > is asking for even more, my seizures get worse because my body isn't

>able

> > to produce. IF this is the case..light therapy may still help..just

>fooling

> > my body into believing it doesn't need more. *sigh* Mark is lucky, I

>wish

> > my education matched my curiosity..I'd be off and running. Where this

> > diorder may be miserable, it definately is not boring. This also brings

>up

> > another question. My accupuncturist was able to manipulate the energy

>all

> > ready within me...and without supplementation was able to stop my early

> > morning seizures....how? To answer the other part of your question..I

>have

> > lived all over.. right now I'm in Utah. Last year I was in Florida and

> > before that I lived in Yuma for some time...about the sunniest place on

> > earth. Sorry for being long winded... but I'm curious what you think

>about

> > my theory.

> > Lorinda

> >

> > foxhillers@... wrote:Lorinda

> > Please define what you mean by going thru hell..... and where do you

>live?

> > Ever hear of Seasonal Affective Disorder?

> > mjh

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Lorinda

I was interviewed by a psychiatric nurse and physician for many

hours and then included in the study. I do not remember that any

blood work was done, BUT they did take saliva samples for several

months, even after I was no longer going into the lab for

phototherapy 50 miles away at 6 am. I was the only unmedicated

participant in this study and I was more dead than alive.

For two weeks I went to the lab between 6 and 8 am and sat in

front of a light bank. They used only cool white bulbs.

I did not phototherapy for another two weeks.

Went back to the lab for another two week.s

then, spouse (now deceased) built me a light bank of six bulbs and

I now use only full spectrum bulbs but may substitue one blue this

winter. The cost was about $100.00.

The second day of phototherapy I began to salivate..... was soo

out of it wasn't even aware that that was not happening. My husband

took me to the nearest gas station, bought me a quart of juice and a

pound of cheese. I ate it all within a half hour.

I suspect that serotonin and other brain biochemical imbalances or

deficiencies exhibit themselves differently in different people.

Sunlight is critically important to our health and well being. It

influences a lot more than the production of vitamin D.

I continue to be amazed at how my seizure prone son improves as I

move him toward more of my regime..... go figure!!!!

The 'testing' in simple.

1. Do it yourself. Build or buy a light bank and use it daily. (Get

a book or download stuff from the internet on SAD and chronobiology).

or

2. Find a SAD clinic/researcher in your area.... most major medical

schools have them.

Hope this helps

mjh

Lorinda

> > Please define what you mean by going thru hell..... and where do

you live?

> > Ever hear of Seasonal Affective Disorder?

> > mjh

> >

>

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Mag,

It's not about doing it right or perfect its about learning from your

mistakes and moving on....

Don't start over... your one week into it...Just try to do better....Each and

every day.

Did you read that post earlier last week....( forgive me to who ever wrote

it... I printed it but can't locate right now....?)

It started out something like

There are two kinds of BFL'rs

#1- Starts..... stumbles/may cheat occassionally but they keep going like

an energizer bunny.....

#2 Start has problems and stops..... They restart and stop and may restart

but ultimately stop.

#1 will probably loose more weight then # 2... because the continue to life

a healthier life style...

Well that is true...

Challenge 1 I did...but didn't send in my paperwork. I lost over 20lbs...and

went from a size 11 to a 7.. It was awesome I had a six pack peaking

through...just like when I was sixteen. But weeks later.... I stopped

working out and thought I could go back to my original habits and stay

skinny..

Not....

Challenge 2...is stopped and started and stopped and quit... (Had family

issues didn't think I could handle it..) I ate more gained more weight..got

pregnant...lost the baby weight ...but gained some weight...

Challenge 3 - I am taking everything I learned from the previous

experiences.. I'll be easier on my self....if I stumble... But I will

continue...

I'm back with a vengence and determined to get my old self back.

If you really want to start over... just start over on the 20th and that is

the date you put on the forms... Retake your pictures... because they should

be take within 3 days of your new start date.

Sincerely,

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Yes...I saw this on the news just a few minutes ago.

This is very sad.

Alice

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> SAD

>

> Does anyone else here suffer with SAD? Just wondered if there is a link

> with candida (although I expect the link is with CFS/M.E. in my case) I

> have bought a light box but seems to be making me worse

>

> Regards

> Jane

Hi Jane,

One of the best things I've seen for SAD is Seroctin, which is described

on my website. The link it appears is to varying melatonin levels due in

part to the season.

I don't make a dime on Seroctin but I posted the material because it

works so well.

You could also look at high-dose vitamin b-complex, magnesium, and much

extra niacin, upwards of two grams daily, an orthomolecular approach that

Dr. Abram Hoffer has used for 40 years on depression, anxiety, insomnia

and even schizophrenia.

Duncan Crow

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We will keep the family in our prayers.

Liz

sad

Let me try again with the last message...hugs! donna

It is with great sadness that I pass this information along to all of

you.

Ankeney, 16 years old with JRA, died over the weekend. Many of

you will

remember, and her family have attended many AJAO

Conferences in the past years. s family have been very active

Arthritis Foundation members, and 's Mom was the Director of the

Missouri Arthritis Program for 5 or 6 years, until this past spring.

Following is part of the email from AJAO chair, Ann Kunkel:

It is with a very sad heart that I write to let you know that

Ankeney passed away on Saturday, August 7. She awoke not feeling well

and asked her mom to call 911. They had to insert a trach to help her

breath and put her on life support at the hospital. She died Saturday

afternoon while on life support. had an ulcer that ruptured and

the family was not aware that she had an ulcer.

Visitation is at Woodcrest Chapel in Columbia, Missouri on Tuesday

evening from 6-8 pm. The funeral will be at 1:00 pm on Wednesday at

Woodcrest Chapel. Woodcrest Chapel is located at 2201 W. Nifong.

(Across

from the Millcreek Elementary School.)

A memorial fund has been established in Ankeney's name for the

Joint Arthritis Camp that is held annually in Lee's Summit, Missouri.

Contributions can be sent to Memorial Funeral Home, Attn: Kent

Knudsen,

1217 Business Loop 70 West, Columbia, Missouri 65202. The phone number

is 573-443-3173.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact Ann or myself.

Janalee

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I am so sorry to hear about . Although I didn't know her, my heart

goes out to her family and I am praying that they find comfort somehow...

This should energize us all to do what we can to fight for legislation to

CHANGE the treatment of arthritis.

and Rob 15 Spondy

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:22:03 EDT faces1999@... writes:

Let me try again with the last message...hugs! donna

It is with great sadness that I pass this information along to all of

you.

Ankeney, 16 years old with JRA, died over the weekend. Many of you

will

remember, and her family have attended many AJAO

Conferences in the past years. s family have been very active

Arthritis Foundation members, and 's Mom was the Director of the

Missouri Arthritis Program for 5 or 6 years, until this past spring.

Following is part of the email from AJAO chair, Ann Kunkel:

It is with a very sad heart that I write to let you know that

Ankeney passed away on Saturday, August 7. She awoke not feeling well

and asked her mom to call 911. They had to insert a trach to help her

breath and put her on life support at the hospital. She died Saturday

afternoon while on life support. had an ulcer that ruptured and

the family was not aware that she had an ulcer.

Visitation is at Woodcrest Chapel in Columbia, Missouri on Tuesday

evening from 6-8 pm. The funeral will be at 1:00 pm on Wednesday at

Woodcrest Chapel. Woodcrest Chapel is located at 2201 W. Nifong.

(Across

from the Millcreek Elementary School.)

A memorial fund has been established in Ankeney's name for the

Joint Arthritis Camp that is held annually in Lee's Summit, Missouri.

Contributions can be sent to Memorial Funeral Home, Attn: Kent

Knudsen,

1217 Business Loop 70 West, Columbia, Missouri 65202. The phone number

is 573-443-3173.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact Ann or myself.

Janalee

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I don't mean to stir any waters. But what do you mean by legislation to

CHANGE the treatment of arthritis.

Really, Im clueless, and I just want to know. If it's a controversy you

can respond off list to me. LOL

~e

Re: sad

I am so sorry to hear about . Although I didn't know her, my heart

goes out to her family and I am praying that they find comfort

somehow...

This should energize us all to do what we can to fight for legislation

to

CHANGE the treatment of arthritis.

and Rob 15 Spondy

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:22:03 EDT faces1999@... writes:

Let me try again with the last message...hugs! donna

It is with great sadness that I pass this information along to all of

you.

Ankeney, 16 years old with JRA, died over the weekend. Many of

you

will

remember, and her family have attended many AJAO

Conferences in the past years. s family have been very active

Arthritis Foundation members, and 's Mom was the Director of the

Missouri Arthritis Program for 5 or 6 years, until this past spring.

Following is part of the email from AJAO chair, Ann Kunkel:

It is with a very sad heart that I write to let you know that

Ankeney passed away on Saturday, August 7. She awoke not feeling well

and asked her mom to call 911. They had to insert a trach to help her

breath and put her on life support at the hospital. She died Saturday

afternoon while on life support. had an ulcer that ruptured and

the family was not aware that she had an ulcer.

Visitation is at Woodcrest Chapel in Columbia, Missouri on Tuesday

evening from 6-8 pm. The funeral will be at 1:00 pm on Wednesday at

Woodcrest Chapel. Woodcrest Chapel is located at 2201 W. Nifong.

(Across

from the Millcreek Elementary School.)

A memorial fund has been established in Ankeney's name for the

Joint Arthritis Camp that is held annually in Lee's Summit, Missouri.

Contributions can be sent to Memorial Funeral Home, Attn: Kent

Knudsen,

1217 Business Loop 70 West, Columbia, Missouri 65202. The phone number

is 573-443-3173.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact Ann or myself.

Janalee

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This is very sad news. So many medications can cause ulcers. We

should all keep an eye out for the warning signs. I myself took my

NSAID on an empty stomach yesterday and had severe stomach cramps,

and I thought nothing of it other than " oh, that's annoying. " But I

should be more careful, and we should all take our medication

seriously. If this was in fact caused by medication, it just points

to the need for better treatments for JRA.

My thoughts are with the girl's family and all those who knew her.

Elisheva

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Hi All:

What a heartbreaking email. You wonder (well I do) sometimes what is worse,

the medicine or the damn disease! To have a ruptured ulcer from the meds she

was on is just horrible. Why can't they find medicines to work on the

disease, but not cause other problems?

Take care.

Patty

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Jen,

can I share this with my Breastfeeding List? It sounds

sad but at least she was hopefully bf the baby so the

shots she describes were less hurtful for the baby as

they would have been if she were bottlefeeding.

Ingrid

--- Carver <jenjackcarver@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

This is supposed to make " mom's " feel good. However,

i think for our group

it will make you feel sad:((((( I was sent this from

a friend.

jen c

Before I Was A Mom

Before I was a Mom I never tripped over toys or forgot

words

to a lullaby. I didn't worry whether or not my plants

were

poisonous. I never thought about immunizations.

Before I was a Mom - I had never been puked on.

Pooped on.

Spit on.

Chewed on.

Peed on.

I had complete control of my mind and my thoughts.

I slept all night.

Before I was a Mom - I never held down a screaming

child so

that doctors could do tests. Or give shots.

I never looked into teary eyes and cried.

I never got gloriously happy over a simple grin. I

never sat

up late hours at night watching a baby sleep. Before

I was

a Mom - I never held a sleeping baby just because I

didn't

want to put it down. I never felt my heart break into

a

million pieces when I couldn't stop the hurt. I never

knew

that something so small could affect my life so much.

I

never knew that I could love someone so much. I never

knew

I would love being a Mom. Before I was a Mom - I

didn't

know the feeling of having my heart outside my body.

I

didn't know how special it could feel to feed a hungry

baby.

I didn't know that bond between a mother and her

child.

I didn't know that something so small could make me

feel so

important and happy. Before I was a Mom - I had never

gotten up in the middle of the night every 10 minutes

to

make sure all was okay. I had never known the warmth,

The

joy, The love, The heartache, The wonderment or the

satisfaction of being a Mom. I didn't know I was

capable of

feeling so much before I was a Mom. And before I was

a

Grandma, I didn't know that all those " Mom " feelings

more

than doubled when you see that little bundle being

held by

" your baby " ... Send this to someone who you think is

a

special Mom or Grandma. I just did. And remember that

behind every successful mother...... Is a basket of

dirty

laundry.

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It's one of those internet chain letters, Ingrid. I've had it sent to me

many times from various sources. Having said that, someone obviously

authored it. :o)

Sue

> > Re: sad

> >

> >

> >Jen,

> >can I share this with my Breastfeeding List? It sounds

> >sad but at least she was hopefully bf the baby so the

> >shots she describes were less hurtful for the baby as

> >they would have been if she were bottlefeeding.

> >Ingrid

> >--- Carver <jenjackcarver@...>

> >wrote:

> >

> >

> >---------------------------------

> >This is supposed to make " mom's " feel good. However,

> >i think for our group

> >it will make you feel sad:((((( I was sent this from

> >a friend.

> >

> >jen c

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Before I Was A Mom

> >

> >Before I was a Mom I never tripped over toys or forgot

> >words

> >to a lullaby. I didn't worry whether or not my plants

> >were

> >poisonous. I never thought about immunizations.

> >Before I was a Mom - I had never been puked on.

> >Pooped on.

> >Spit on.

> >Chewed on.

> >Peed on.

> >I had complete control of my mind and my thoughts.

> >I slept all night.

> >Before I was a Mom - I never held down a screaming

> >child so

> >that doctors could do tests. Or give shots.

> >I never looked into teary eyes and cried.

> >I never got gloriously happy over a simple grin. I

> >never sat

> >up late hours at night watching a baby sleep. Before

> >I was

> >a Mom - I never held a sleeping baby just because I

> >didn't

> >want to put it down. I never felt my heart break into

> >a

> >million pieces when I couldn't stop the hurt. I never

> >knew

> >that something so small could affect my life so much.

> >I

> >never knew that I could love someone so much. I never

> >knew

> >I would love being a Mom. Before I was a Mom - I

> >didn't

> >know the feeling of having my heart outside my body.

> >I

> >didn't know how special it could feel to feed a hungry

> >baby.

> >I didn't know that bond between a mother and her

> >child.

> >I didn't know that something so small could make me

> >feel so

> >important and happy. Before I was a Mom - I had never

> >gotten up in the middle of the night every 10 minutes

> >to

> >make sure all was okay. I had never known the warmth,

> >The

> >joy, The love, The heartache, The wonderment or the

> >satisfaction of being a Mom. I didn't know I was

> >capable of

> >feeling so much before I was a Mom. And before I was

> >a

> >Grandma, I didn't know that all those " Mom " feelings

> >more

> >than doubled when you see that little bundle being

> >held by

> > " your baby " ... Send this to someone who you think is

> >a

> >special Mom or Grandma. I just did. And remember that

> >behind every successful mother...... Is a basket of

> >dirty

> >laundry.

> >

> >

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people can be so mean at times you fit in here pauline email me sometime josiedugan56@... ine <pshreiman@...> wrote: I went tonight to a child's birthday party. First 1/2 of them made funof my hair. I dyed my air and on the top it turned blue. I finallysaid If I hear one more word about my blue hair....(I layed my hairdown). Then everyone was talking about all the trips they areplanning. I don't feel like I fit anywhere. I don't have a car. Ibarely get along...I'm depressed. ine~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a

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ine,

I'm sorry you were feeling sad yesterday, but do hope and pray that you're feeling better today.

I know how you feel when people are making fun of something that you may feel self-conscious about; especially kids. You may have thought of the old adage that nothing lasts longer than a bad hair cut, but I'm more than certain your hair doesn't look as bad as you might think. The blueness will wear out quicker than you think, but until it does, I bet you would look way cool with a new winter hat or scarf. (It kinda gives you an excuse to go shopping.) <SMILE>

Oh and about not having a car, is there any way you can team with one of your friends to drive you to the mall? I have transportation, but its useless as I'm not suppose to drive. So, what I do is sit here in front of my computer and type to all of my MS friends who are all around the world. Yes, I'd like to get out, but I know that I cant, so I try my hardest to make the best of whats going on around me.

Do you have kids or pets? I checked your profile and learned that you like to knit. Hmmmmmmmm I bet you could knit great scarf's and hats – picking colors that you prefer and with your own design.

Trust me, it gets better AND, you fit just fine in HERE with us!

<hugs>

Keeba www.keeba.org

>> I went tonight to a child's birthday party. First 1/2 of them made fun> of my hair. I dyed my air and on the top it turned blue. I finally> said If I hear one more word about my blue hair....(I layed my hair> down). Then everyone was talking about all the trips they are> planning. I don't feel like I fit anywhere. I don't have a car. I> barely get along...I'm depressed. ine>

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ine,

I'm sorry you were feeling sad yesterday, but do hope and pray that you're feeling better today.

I know how you feel when people are making fun of something that you may feel self-conscious about; especially kids. You may have thought of the old adage that nothing lasts longer than a bad hair cut, but I'm more than certain your hair doesn't look as bad as you might think. The blueness will wear out quicker than you think, but until it does, I bet you would look way cool with a new winter hat or scarf. (It kinda gives you an excuse to go shopping.) <SMILE>

Oh and about not having a car, is there any way you can team with one of your friends to drive you to the mall? I have transportation, but its useless as I'm not suppose to drive. So, what I do is sit here in front of my computer and type to all of my MS friends who are all around the world. Yes, I'd like to get out, but I know that I cant, so I try my hardest to make the best of whats going on around me.

Do you have kids or pets? I checked your profile and learned that you like to knit. Hmmmmmmmm I bet you could knit great scarf's and hats – picking colors that you prefer and with your own design.

Trust me, it gets better AND, you fit just fine in HERE with us!

<hugs>

Keeba www.keeba.org

>> I went tonight to a child's birthday party. First 1/2 of them made fun> of my hair. I dyed my air and on the top it turned blue. I finally> said If I hear one more word about my blue hair....(I layed my hair> down). Then everyone was talking about all the trips they are> planning. I don't feel like I fit anywhere. I don't have a car. I> barely get along...I'm depressed. ine>

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sorry to hear that you are sad, but i am to so we can be sad together. kids don't really know what they are saying so try not to take it to heart. things are hard at times, some times you just have to take it a day at a time. i hope you are feeling better soon. evelyn I went tonight to a child's birthday party. First 1/2 of them made funof my hair. I dyed my air and on the top it turned blue. I finallysaid If I hear one more word about my blue hair....(I layed my

hairdown). Then everyone was talking about all the trips they areplanning. I don't feel like I fit anywhere. I don't have a car. Ibarely get along...I'm depressed. ine

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I'm going to the group recovery tomarrow by bus. It is a support group for

the mentally ill. gives tools. I used to go a long time ago and it really

helped. So I am going to a new one to see what it is like. ine

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I'm going to the group recovery tomarrow by bus. It is a support group for

the mentally ill. gives tools. I used to go a long time ago and it really

helped. So I am going to a new one to see what it is like. ine

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Dear ine,

I have kids.I too end up hurt many times. But I realize

that sometimes it is their way of accepting you. They treat

me as one of them and do things or pass comments that are

perfectly 'normal' among them. None of them take such comments

seriously and feel bad so, they automatically presume that we too

would not feel offended. So please, don't take their comments to

heart. You like the way you dye your hair? Go ahead and like it no

matter what the others say. A couple of years ago, I chopped of all

of my silky black long hair and went about happily with a bare skull

even without a scarf to hide it. Seeing that I was not ashamed about

flaunting my tonsured head, my kids giggled and said,'Of all the

bare heads that we saw, yours is more passable!' I still maintain

very short hair simply because I like it now that way and whoever

comments adversely, kids or elders, I just smile and say, I feel

nice this way.

It is true that we are hurt only if we allow others to hurt us.

Don't permit others to hurt you. Being different invites lot of

comments; but let that bother you.

Have strength.

Love,

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kvetro60 wrote:

> Have you ever considered

> getting one of those SAD lamps? I hear they are great.

hi kathy! i would love to have one of those lamps!! ive looked

at them on the internet... sure are expensive.

:*carolyn.

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