Re: To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst

September 8, 2009

pj-

you said " for those of you.. with stomach pain or gut pain " . do you mean pain

caused by the meds? i am asking this because my daughter has been on prozac for

almost 4 weeks. we started on low dose of 2.5 mg but she had stomach cramps and

diarrhea so we reduced to 1.25. it has gotten better but still has some stomach

cramping.

regards, melody

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> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at

bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

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> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and

his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

>

> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is

taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

>

September 8, 2009

My son too has been on Geodon...since May...and I have seen a big difference. He is also on 10 mg. of Prozac which we are slowly weaning him off....he had been on 20 mg. But I am keeping an eye on it. Now mind you ...my son can get cranky and answer me in a nasty tone...but he has not had any major meltdowns...and when he has yelled...he comes back 5 or 10 min. later and says I am sorry for yelling mom. Wow! That is new. Today he was a little nasty with me on the phone. His bus was 30 min. late...and I called him. His dad spoke to him about it and he said he was cranky because he was tired. He is picked up at 6:15 am and now doesn't get home till almost 4 p.m. I asked him if he wanted to switch back to the other smaller bus ...he would get home about 1 hour earlier and he said "no". So, I am not

going to fight it.

I have received 2 compliments on him already (wow ...am I dreaming???) and the SpecEd. teacher in his room said he has completed all his homework each day. When? Not sure but he has done it...probably at 2:30. I am impressed and hope this continues.

My son without his medicine is so antsy and hyper and silly (he also take adderall). He would not be able to focus...so even though I don't like giving him his meds. he needs them in order to stay focused in school and help with his anger.

Jan.

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@...>Subject: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:02 PM

My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice

a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj

September 8, 2009

Jan may I ask how you and the doctor added the medications?

My daughter is on zoloft but still has panic. I guess we

could keep going higher on the zoloft. She definately

has attentional issues but she is not hyper. She will say

the work is too hard or too boring. Yet she is taking in the

material you can tell she does understand.

How long was your son on prozac before you started adding the other

medications? Did the geodan help improve his mood or decrease

anxiety?

thanks for any information,

Pam

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> From: Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@...>

> Subject: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad

tempers, outburst

>

> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:02 PM

>

> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at

bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

>

> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and

his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

>

> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is

taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

>

September 8, 2009

I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year

old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapists

we talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it was

some high risk activity. So far I see positive changes.

Pam

>

> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at

bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

>

> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and

his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

>

> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is

taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

>

September 8, 2009

No not due to the meds, my son has always had stomach problems, some Asperger people do. It is a lot like IBS it's just the way their digestive systems are made up. In fact if your kids don't feel good or act moody at times it may be due to not feeling well with their stomach or bowels. Although everyone is different, the meds may be causing your child some side effects, but my son had these problems way before he took the meds. pjFrom: melkalo <mkalomiris@...>Subject: ( ) Re: To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:13

PM

pj-

you said "for those of you.. with stomach pain or gut pain". do you mean pain caused by the meds? i am asking this because my daughter has been on prozac for almost 4 weeks. we started on low dose of 2.5 mg but she had stomach cramps and diarrhea so we reduced to 1.25. it has gotten better but still has some stomach cramping.

regards, melody

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> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.

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> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.

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> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj

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September 8, 2009

My son also take Lorazepam .05 mg in the morning if he has more anxiety during the day I may give him another one. I think he was on the Prozac first but I don't remember, maybe a few months before the Geodon was added. Zoloft did not help my son, so if your daughter doesn't get better you may want to change that. I took it for depression myself but it made me feel confused and didn't help my depression, but then I don't have aspergers, so...She may need something for her concentration, my son tried all of those when he was younger but we didn't think it helped him, but then again everyone is different, I know those meds have helped a lot of people and can't function without them. The Geodon has helped his mood swings. pjFrom: susanonderko <susanonderko@...>Subject: Re: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:10 PM

Jan may I ask how you and the doctor added the medications?

My daughter is on zoloft but still has panic. I guess we

could keep going higher on the zoloft. She definately

has attentional issues but she is not hyper. She will say

the work is too hard or too boring. Yet she is taking in the

material you can tell she does understand.

How long was your son on prozac before you started adding the other

medications? Did the geodan help improve his mood or decrease

anxiety?

thanks for any information,

Pam

>

> From: Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@ ...>

> Subject: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst

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> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:02 PM

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> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.

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> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.

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> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj

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September 8, 2009

We all hate to put our kids on meds but if it will improve their lives and ours why not do it. My son is a different person now that he is on the right meds. But everyone has to find their way. Good luck, we are all in this together don't ever feel alone. pjFrom: susanonderko <susanonderko@...>Subject: ( ) Re: To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:13 PM

I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year

old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapists

we talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it was

some high risk activity. So far I see positive changes.

Pam

>

> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.

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> He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.

>

> For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj

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September 8, 2009

thanx pj. when my daughter was an infant, she was diagnosed with colitus. a

local homeopath treated her and the colitus went away. this is the first time

she has had consistent stomach cramps since then, so we are weighing the

benefits. her anxiety has improved, although i am not sure if it has more to do

with her being pleased with her new school or the prozac. giving it time.

regards, melody

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bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

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his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

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> > For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is

taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

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September 8, 2009

Okay ...this is how we started...in 3rd grade he was dx with ADHD...his pcp (primary care physcian) put him on xr (extended release). But after a couple of month...he started losing weight...he didn't eat much ...no lunch...so the doctor took him and put him on Adderall xr (extended release). That was all he was on for a long time....then his Poppy was dying of cancer and kids started teasing him and he felt suicidal...so the doctor (pcp) put him on Prozac and Xanax (anxiety) as he would not leave the house ...he was afraid of Poppy dying while he was gone and he didn't want me to go either ...just in case he died... We had tried another medicine for anger but it did nothing...and it tends to put weight on

people...which I didn't want for him. Then when we went back to the psychiatrist...and I was talking the Nurse Assistant...she suggested Geodon...which we did...20 mg. and it works really well. Now the Psychiatrist is weaning my son off the prozac...he was taking 20 mg. and is going to 10 mg. As far as the xanax...he only takes it when he needs it ....he calls it his nervous pill. He has not had to take it in almost a year...but with the start of school ...a new school...he asked for it...he only takes it in the morning. So that is where we are at right now...in the summer we give him a two day break from his adderall....I wish we could give him a complete break ...but he gets too annoying/silly etc. that we were afriad he would lose the few friends he did have.

And when he is in school ...he really needs it in order to stay focused...as he is easily distracted....he isn't hyper in the sense of running around...but more that he gets annoying/silly/gets into things/gets loud/makes a mess/doesn't think first/shows off to make friends....he thinks if he can make people laugh they will like him.

jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: susanonderko <susanonderko@...>Subject: Re: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:10 PM

Jan may I ask how you and the doctor added the medications? My daughter is on zoloft but still has panic. I guess wecould keep going higher on the zoloft. She definatelyhas attentional issues but she is not hyper. She will saythe work is too hard or too boring. Yet she is taking in the material you can tell she does understand. How long was your son on prozac before you started adding the othermedications? Did the geodan help improve his mood or decreaseanxiety? thanks for any information,Pam > > > From: Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@ ...>> Subject: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst> @ groups.

com> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.> > He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality

of life without it. And think of yourself also.> > For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj>

September 8, 2009

Thanks so much it gives me a perspective on what we can try.

My daughter's rages have really been reduced but I also have

scaled her schedule down to school 2 hours. She is such a little

peanut both the doctor and I are being so careful not to

send her over the edge.

But I overdo the caution and it is time to try some things.

I really appreciate your response.!!!

Pam

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tempers, outburst

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> > My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at

bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

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> > He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and

his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

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> > For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is

taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

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September 8, 2009

The low dose of zoloft really lifted her mood it was dramatic

but didn't really help the anxiety. But she seems so much

happier. She is still so overwhelmed by any changes and the

start of school I just wonder if she doesn't need

something else added to her morning medication for calming.

Thanks for sharing with me your child's experience.

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hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

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his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

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taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

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Thanks so much! It is remarkable the change already. I know

what you mean. I agree it has improved her life already.

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bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for

your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to

hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his

temper.

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his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took

these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving

their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much

better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You

have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of

yourself also.

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taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium

or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He

also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of

you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better.

pj

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> happier. She is still so overwhelmed by any changes and the

> start of school I just wonder if she doesn't need

> something else added to her morning medication for calming.

So, it sounds like you got her going to school and worked things out with the

school for a shortened day to start out with? How is it?

I confess, I'm really curious to exchange notes on the differences between how

our two schools are handling things, although I realize it is too early. At

least, as you can see from my posts, we had a pretty rough start and I still

can't really see how this is going to end up.

At least we got the IEP settled with some input from the autism team. Now I'm

waiting to see how the interventions actually go in real life.

September 9, 2009

Hi.

I've been on the group for awhile and just read what the group says, etc..

But, I finally decided to give my input/story.

I agree 100% with meds.

We were hesistant with meds because we weren't sure how the school/families think of our us and our 14-yr-old DS/HFA being on meds.. I wish I did not think this way a year ago. He had a lot of anger/hitting/breaking things. We went through therapy and the therapist stated 'he is going through hormones, etc... and that as parents we should learn to deal with it.' I thought this therapist was not helping us or our son.

Our son has been on abilify(7.5 mg a day for depression/self hate, etc...) for a year and started on ritalin about two months (5mg in the morning). He started on ritalin before school began for him to get use to it. We tried to wean and lower dosage of the abilify but that was a mistake. So he went back to the same dosage. Our son is willing to take meds. He understands why he needs it. He knows that it is helping him. It is such a big difference on meds. We are still struggling with homework, organization and socialization. He does not have friends. He seems to prefer this.

I do agree that with our teenager is going through the teenage 'angst' and 'hormones.' I do agree that they are younger than their years.

Even though my DS is on meds, it is not going to change that he is HFA.. He still gets his 'frustration' but it is not like it was before. He is and always will be our DS. He has come a long way ;-)..

I wish I can say more. Most important thing is you are your child's advocate. Keep on top of the IEP, school, doctors, etc... I struggled with him getting diagnosed for HFA. Just got diagnosed 9-months ago through the school (High school). It took us 9-year of IEP meetings and medical appts to get the diagnose. You know your child and what is going on.

His IEP in the past stated 'he qualifies for special education for speech/language disorder. Now, his IEP states autism and speech/language. He mainstreams for PE and Drawing. He loves mainstreaming.

I don't like phone conversations. I recommed emails (easier to print than write conversations) to your child's teacher, IEP team, etc... Keep folders of everything (emails, tests, reports cards, art/crafts, etc...). I bring two 3-inch folders to my son's IEP meetings.. Your child's IEP team will know that you are on top of it.

We are fortunate that the high school and district we are in is 'wonderful' and supports my son. Our school district is in Southern California and considered one of the best in California. We also have support outside with 'Regional Center.'

I feel blessed for my 'special' child. My husband and I including our 10-year daughter, do know that there's a reason we were given a 'special' child. It has brought us close as a family. We pretty much do everything together ;-)

Thank you for hearing part of my story. I pray for everyone in this support group. Keep up your great advices and stories ;-). As I listen to parents with younger children, I say to myself 'Wow, my son was that way.' Hang in there. It does get better ;-)

God Bless!

From: susanonderko <susanonderko>Subject: ( ) Re: To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:13 PM

I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapistswe talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it wassome high risk activity. So far I see positive changes. Pam >> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children.. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.> > He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents

that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.> > For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj>

September 9, 2009

I agree with your story especially the last part. My 14-yr DS/HFA is the same way ;-)

From: susanonderko <susanonderko>Subject: Re: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:10 PM

Jan may I ask how you and the doctor added the medications? My daughter is on zoloft but still has panic. I guess wecould keep going higher on the zoloft. She definatelyhas attentional issues but she is not hyper. She will saythe work is too hard or too boring. Yet she is taking in the material you can tell she does understand. How long was your son on prozac before you started adding the othermedications? Did the geodan help improve his mood or decreaseanxiety? thanks for any information,Pam > > > From: Patti Journey <pjpoo78363@ ...>> Subject: ( ) To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst> > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:02 PM> > > > >

> > > > > > My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.> > He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.> > For those of you who has children with

stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj>

September 9, 2009

...I agree ...I don't want or like conversations....I rather get an email...it is written and can be printed and kept....this year the asst. principal said she likes phone calls...not me. So if I have one....I back it up in writing....like a summary and say...per our converation today, Sept. 9th, we will be blah blah ....so then you have it in writing in case you need to refer to it later.

Jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: susanonderko <susanonderko>Subject: ( ) Re: To all the parents who have children with bad tempers, outburst Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:13 PM

I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapistswe talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it wassome high risk activity. So far I see positive changes. Pam >> My son is now 19, he is on a medication called Geodon 60mg he takes two at bedtime. He is over weight so his dosage is larger than it may have to be for your child. Anyway, he has always had a bad temper, and also would be quick to hit me or other children.. This medication has really helped him to control his temper.> > He was real depressed and unhappy too, he takes Prozac 20 mg at bedtime and his depression has gotten so much better. Life was not so good before he took these meds. I just want to tell the

parents that are holding back from giving their children meds that we were there once too, but our son is doing so much better with the meds that we are happy with our decision and so is our son. You have to think do they have a good quality of life without it. And think of yourself also.> > For those of you who has children with stomach pain or gut pain my son is taking Bentyl 20mg twice a day for that and it has helped him more than Nexium or any other meds. So good luck and I hope things will get better for you. He also takes Vistaril to help him sleep at night. I hope this has helped some of you parents, don't give up, it's a long, hard road but things will get better. pj>

September 11, 2009

On May 8, 7:04am, " susanonderko " wrote:

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} I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year=20

} old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapists

} we talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it was

} some high risk activity. So far I see positive changes.=20

Well, there *are* potential risks to every medication. Some more than

others. Figuring out the risk-benefit scenario can be very hard.

I think it's interesting that the people you saw were resistant

to meds, since usually therapists are the ones who push it more than

parents do.

My son has been on Tenex for quite a while and we've been very happy

with the results.

Willa

September 12, 2009

Hi!

Im new here, I have a son who has aspergers, and he is 16. I do agree that medication can be very helpful and my son is taking tranquilizers. But there are a small number of people who cant take medication like zoloft.

My son had a terrible reaction to this medication. My son had a psychotic episode as a result of taking anti-depressants. Im not saying anti-depressants are very dangerous for everyone. I know for most people anti-depressants are a god-send.

But with any medication there needs to be close monitoring.

My son has the most awful temper tantrums and even being on tranquilizers doesnt stop the outbursts, but without his medication he would be a whole lot worse.

I am trying to find a psychologist for my son now that we have the medication right.It took a couple of years to get it right. I feel its very important to not only have medication, but to have other therapy in place as well. Im sure most parents find this a very long journey.

And I have a quick question to ask, Is everyone here from the United States? Im an aussie and Im wondering if there are other aussies here also?

Sharron} } I feel guilty that we waited so long on the zoloft for my 11 year=20} old daughter. All I can say is that so many people and therapists} we talked to didn't want to see her on medication like it was} some high risk activity. So far I see positive changes.=20Well, there *are* potential risks to every medication. Some more thanothers. Figuring out the risk-benefit scenario can be very hard.I think it's interesting that the people you saw were resistantto meds, since usually therapists are the ones who push it more thanparents do.My son has been on Tenex for quite a while and we've been very happywith the results.Willa

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September 13, 2009

Regarding meds and side effects, we recently were using zoloft with my

ds and it was working just fine. Suddenly, he started screaming with

stomach problems - he said it was " heartburn " and he blamed the zoloft.

I thought he was just having heartburn and blaming his meds but

eventually, it continued happening and he refused to take any more

zoloft. I couldn't figure out what was going on. Finally, we had the

doc switch to a different anti-depressant. But later, I was reading

about zoloft on the net and there were a number of people who

complained about the same kind of problems. I also found out that

sometimes there were problems only with the generic zoloft vs. the

brand name. You wouldn't think there would be such a difference but

apparently with zoloft, there is definitely a difference with some

people. And then I realized he started having these pains right after

we got a refill of his zoloft. So it may be he was sensitive to the

generic because the med had worked fine before that.

Anyway, just wanted to add another experience to this discussion.

Â Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

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